Doro's theme.

Joh

Susan Was it more often at the beginning of the relationship or did it stay the same during the relationship that you accepted the tapes at night?
Did you ever wear the bands at night on your own initiative without AJ talking to you first?

Susan

Joh Nope, If I wanted to wear them she came in and helped me put them on. I never did it on my own. She always had the keys anyway.

Joh

Susan Nope, If I wanted to wear them she came in and helped me put them on. I never did it on my own. She always had the keys anyway.

If she would have the lock open you could have put them on by yourself.
Anyway it sound like that you never had in mind it would be better to wear the bands on a night when you came home from your BF. This also means AJ talked to you every time it would be better to wear the during the night. Is this correct?

Susan

Joh yes, that is correct.

Jenna

Joh I bought thigh bands for the girls at the suggestion of Alexis, the lady that runs the fetish store. I think a lot of that stuff for sale there, to no surprise, are sold to people that are really into hardcore fetish play. They were sold to me as an aide to help prevent cheating and that is how I approached their use. As with the belts, I promised never to use the bands without their consent. There were a few times when Susan came home, when i knew that temptations to cheat were high, so we discussed using the bands. We did in fact use them on a couple of different occasions.

I know the belt is very secure and cheating it would be next to impossible, but I know Susan was OK with the bands just to dissuade her from any attempts. We used them only a couple of times and they have not been used since.

Joh

Susan Thank you.
How are doing? Are you able to get over the separation and look ahead to the interesting circumstances that will arise?

Susan

Joh it is hard, I really liked him a lot and I feel betrayed. I don't attract boys like my sister does, but I do go to a big school with lots of others out there on campus. Just not ready for that yet.

Joh

Susan If you are not ready, than don't force yourself.
What is the difference between both of you that you sister attract boys more than you? Is she more forward?

Susan

Joh She is more outgoing and she is prettier than I am.

Joh

Susan She is more outgoing and she is prettier than I am.

It certainly helps if you are also more open-minded.
But beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And there are some who see more of a person's beauty than just their appearance.

I think you has enough inner beauty that will appeal to the right people. After all, that's what is appreciated more and more in the course of life.

Angelina

Susan and she is prettier than I am.

That's very subjective, I don't know what your sister and you look like, but everyone may look different and what some people might find ugly, others find very pretty and your character is great, that would also remove one or two external flaws 🙂

dorothea I had a slightly longer supervised break earlier, but I've been back in the belt for 3 hours.

If the breaks are supervised and you can no longer do anything, then this can be seen as the start of the 3-month test phase (my opinion)

Jennifer

Jenna I think it is not appropriate to use them

Jenna

Jennifer I understand, I have very mixed feelings about the use of them. I do agree that they can help make cheating the belt more difficult, but I don't believe in their use as some type of punishment. I think they should be used (with the wearers permission) as an aide to help girls that don't want to cheat, but that may find it difficult not do so for various reasons like impure thoughts, earlier arousal, etc.

Jennifer

Jenna Why should they be used when a belt prevents this, of course I don't like belts either, but there is no reason to use them, what if they try?

dorothea

There are some posts here where I don't quite understand the connection, somehow from another topic?

So, the time has come, the first big test has just begun. I will wear the belt for 24 hours for the first time.

I had a slightly longer supervised break earlier, but I've been back in the belt for 3 hours. So now I have another night and a whole day ahead of me.

Susan To get to 24 hours though it took longer, maybe a month or longer.

My training has been a little over a month now. So it was clear that it was about time.

I also can't understand how some people are able to wear the belt permanently after just a week or two

Susan I did not like the thigh bands, I found them very uncomfortable

That was my first experience too. However, the belt became a little more comfortable over time too. So maybe things will get a little better with the bands.

Susan It was only at night and never during the day.

My mum also told me that these can help not fight so much at night. But I've never worn them at night until now.

Jenna I do agree that they can help make cheating the belt more difficult, but

I'm sure they do. My mum says the same thing. She thinks the belt I have is really safe and it's not about extra security, but about making it harder to cheat on.
But yes, the bands can also have a different effect, I can say that much.

Jenna I think they should be used (with the wearers permission)

My parents don't quite see it that way; consent for individual wearing is less necessary.

To be fair, I have to say that my mum wears bands almost every day. not all day and not 24/7, but at least for a while every day.

Jenna

Jennifer I am not the right person to ask here because the belts that my girls wear I think are sufficiently secure enough to prevent wandering fingers. However I believe that other girls wear belts here that may allow access to themselves if their legs are spread far enough apart. Obviously the wearing of thigh bands prevents this from occurring. There is a whole other thread devoted exclusively to this topic. You will learn much more there.

Jennifer

Jenna It may be possible for some belts to be accessible, but when the leg is wide open, the secondary belt puts more pressure and sinks into the skin more, so the possibility of cheating is very low, so they are an extra thing and I hope I don't use them.

Ines

Jennifer the secondary belt

So you have the secondary shield in contact with your skin...

And... no, it is not tighter if you open your legs. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Jennifer

Susan How is there a possibility of cheating when the pressure of the bumper increases with the opening of the legs?

Joh

dorothea My mum also told me that these can help not fight so much at night. But I've never worn them at night until now.

Does it mean you have wore them during the day only now?
How long have you they on?
Was it only inside or also outside of the house?
Where are the band located on your thighs, e.g. above knee,halve thighs, two thirds of the thighs above the knees?
How long is your chain between and where is it connected?

Milord

dorothea My parents don't quite see it that way; consent for individual wearing is less necessary.

lack of consent on limiting freedom has a specific name: abuse. Legally it is recognised as a crime called cohercion.
In Italy we call it “violenza privata”

To be fair, I have to say that my mum wears bands almost every day. not all day and not 24/7, but at least for a while every day.

May I ask the purpose? According to what I understand its only purpose is to make life more difficult.

Jenna

dorothea My parents don't quite see it that way; consent for individual wearing is less necessary.

To be fair, I have to say that my mum wears bands almost every day. not all day and not 24/7, but at least for a while every day.

Dorothea, one thing you will learn, as I did, is that consent is everything here in the forum. I think it is good that you are wearing a belt, it shows a sign of maturity. The thigh bands should, in my opinion, only be used to help curb temptations. I can't see any reason why you, nor your mother should be wearing them during the normal course of the day. That to me seems heartless and more of a punishment than anything else.

Susan

dorothea My training has been a little over a month now. So it was clear that it was about time.

I also can't understand how some people are able to wear the belt permanently after just a week or two

It is hard to get used to. AJ was understanding of the challenges, but firm in her commitment that full time wearing was a necessity so I know I needed to get used to it. It does get better over time.

dorothea

Joh Does it mean you have wore them during the day only now?

late afternoon early evening

Joh How long have you they on?

for 2 hours.

Joh Was it only inside or also outside of the house?

Only inside.

Joh Where are the band located on your thighs

About a third from the knee.

Joh How long is your chain between and where is it connected?

The chain was an extra long according to my mum, I mean 8cm. Attached from one D ring to the other on the leg rings.

curious

@Laura @Bryan could you move the next posts to the thread opened by Milord, please.

Milord lack of consent on limiting freedom has a specific name: abuse. Legally it is recognised as a crime called cohercion.

As pointed out before, what is legal or not depends on where you are and can even change over time, depending on laws being changed or interpreted by the courts in different ways. No point in an internationally frequented Internet forum to make such claims, unless you have specific court cases from the respective country you can cite.
A blank statement that any limitation on freedom is abuse is simply absurd. All over the world teenagers get grounded (which is a limitation of freedom), get their mobile phones taken away for punishment (which is a limitation of freedom to communicate at will) or imposed other limitations. And no, parents are not required to ask for consent when they set limits.
Only because something is wrong in your view, that does not make it so for everyone else.
I admit that requiring someone to wear a belt without their consent MIGHT be problematic in some places. Maybe you are even reasonably right with your assessment of Italian laws. But I am not convonced that a court in a deeply conservative / religious US state would necessarily see it your way.
I remember some years ago reading about a case where parents had tried to help their drug addicted son and when nothing else worked, they chained him to the wall in his room with a chain that allowed him to do pretty much everything inside the house but not get out or to the phone, so he could not get himself more drugs. When that was later found out, charges were filed but a court actually cleared the parents, because the had acted with the best Intention for the well-being of their son and while considered extreme, their is - at least in some legal systems - quite a lot of disgression in parenting decisions. Most European countries take a rather socialist approch where the state closely intervenes and decides how parents are supposed to go about parenting. But that does not necessarily applies to the rest of the world.

Take corporal punishment of children as an example. While illegal in most EU countries, it is - as long as it is not excessive - allowed in many other countries. And I am not talking China or North Korea but liberal countries like Australia .

MissBlossom

Milord lack of consent on limiting freedom has a specific name: abuse. Legally it is recognised as a crime called cohercion.

I think what she is saying is that she gave blanket consent for her mom to have the authority to decide, which means that her mom doesn't need to request consent each time.

Hopefully she has a clear path for revoking consent if she chooses to.

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