When does pressure to wear a chastity belt cross the line?

LoonyMel

Jen
Still i want to emphasize "forced".
There are people here who are willing wearer, and for me it is perfectly fine: their parents provide all the support while they faces their decision. Those parents believe they are making a choice in a wise manner about their life and, ultimately, they are.. Just safe.
Forcing it, instead, is the opposite. It is like taking the shortest path, ensuring one kind of safety, ignoring will and mental wellbeing, creating a menacing environment made of orders and punishment. "if I even try to argue, it get worse" is the first foundation of an unfair tiranny where rules are not rules.
True rules stands for both parts because they should make you behave in a fine way. If those are only imposed, they are an unfair constriction.

Bottom line, pressure to wear a chastity belt becomes excessive when it get the name of "pressure" instead of suggestion or proposition.

Angelina

Jen Good parents protect from bad school. Good school protect from bad parents.

exactly but only if one of the two "parties" does its job extremely badly

LoonyMel True rules stands for both parts because they should make you behave in a fine way. If those are only imposed, they are an unfair constriction.

i think rules should first and foremost be there to guarantee a peaceful coexistence. how big the aspect of restrictions is for children (or sometimes also for parents) should then come second.

Ines

LoonyMel

LoonyMel It is like taking the shortest path, ensuring one kind of safety, ignoring will and mental wellbeing, creating a menacing environment made of orders and punishment. "

Correct, nothing good can arise of such environment. Frankly, I try to think in the cost if my parents would force my sister to wear a belt, and in my case, we are a happy family, the cost is clear: it would cost our family.
Such spring of anger is not viable with a normal family.

Vanessa

LoonyMel that is why I support strongly those who are consensual users. Those who do it while not forced, just because they agreed with their parents that a conduct is positive.

Even if not my case,I agree it would be way better this way.

MissBlossom

Something that I didn't see in this conversation is the fact that touching someone without their consent is assault, and touching their private parts without their consent is sexual assault.

I think that means that forcing them to have something pressed against their private parts 24 hours a day, without consent, is continuous sexual assault.

Another thought I had is that it is not okay for a boss to offer a promotion or a raise in exchange for intimate favors. It's called "quid pro quo," and under these circumstances consent is not considered to be free. That situation is different in many ways from what's being discussed here, but I think the principle may be relevant.

LoonyMel The mechanism of "not telling the truth" or "they do it for my good but others will recriminate" are just two sentences that everyone can hear in the mouth of a beaten wife coerced from her husband or family into silence. We created laws for a reason.

This is complicated. BDSM wasn't always as well known or as somewhat accepted as it is now. I'm very careful to tell my husband when I have medical appointments or plans to go swimming so that he can avoid giving me bruises. I am not abused. Everything is consensual, but I really don't want to have to answer any questions or to end up getting my husband arrested for domestic violence, especially after I heard rumors that police can arrest him even if you don't want them to in order to protect you.

sarafulton

MissBlossom i am the same if I am carrying any marks. Some are more enlightened and understand the consent, other will view you as a victim no matter what the situation

Jonas

MissBlossom I think that means that forcing them to have something pressed against their private parts 24 hours a day, without consent, is continuous sexual assault.

Strongly agree.

MissBlossom

Milord
Many of us have similar issues with some of these stories.

For example, see these posts of mine:
MissBlossom
MissBlossom
MissBlossom
MissBlossom

Milord

I just came here, but having someone wear a chastity belt unwillingly in Italy will qualify as child abuse, and led to lose the custody of the children and getting arrest and probably jailed.
I have a 12 yo son and I will never, ever, enforce something like this. It's a horrible violation of his rights on his body, that belongs to him, not to me. Thank you @Foxies for highlighting this.

Joh

Milord I agree with you and we talked about it several time.
In the end we can offer only the information which right they have, what they could do and where they can get Help. But in the end everyone in a belt have to decide for themself If they want face the possible consequeses or accept it as it is.
I can remember only one Person who Got Out of the belt by force by using a hacksaw.

Ines

Milord

Any other approach is not allowed here.
Chastity belts, and specially forced usage have to be keep far of children.
Such stories are not welcome here.

Milord

Ines

Joh

Thanks, I can understand your point. Something I’ve read seems to me really borderline (or utterly illegal ) but I praise you and your position
I’m a lawyer and my wife works in child abuse. Let me offer free support and advise to help getting out from awful situations. Of course, being from Italy, I can really do something for real in Italy. For the rest of the world I’m pretty useless. I’m sorry.

I’m in bdsm from long time, and I value consent between adults as the most important thing in the world, so you can understand why I’m so disturbed by a lot of situations
There are a lot of people I read here that can for sure sue their parents or relative for a substantial amount of money and get them incriminated.
Not English native speaking, and I use no translation system, so I ask to forgive me some errors

youdontknowme

Milord the biggest challenge is that a lot of the people in abusive or borderline abusive situations (like Angelina used to be or Alexis now) still love their families despite the non-consensual chastity dynamic, and often depend on them for support as well. Which adds an emotional layer to the problem that no court of law can completely resolve.

Ines

Milord

Here stories about abuses are not allowed, tales about forced usage, very young users not only are fake but they are not welcome here.
We had stories like these in the past, and moderators were not enough, but currently forum is clean of that, I think.
Anyway, as user I only can say that forced usage has to destroy a family, and even more, guessed abused people have accounts in kinky oriented Discord servers...
They are trolls.

Milord

youdontknowme

I can understand and i really appreciate what you do here. My fear is also that people can think that it is right, and maybe tomorrow they will enforce this to their own children
At least knowing that its an abused from every point of view, legal, but also moral and basically againts the universal declaration of right (sexual and body freedom are universal rights)
Posting it here
https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights

For those who are in this situation, you have to fight for your rights

Note: of course im referring to forced chastity. No problem between consenting adults.

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