punishment for arousal

Joh

Avery I prefer girls 😄

Avery

Joh I prefer girls

Well I swore off boys but I think substituting girls would be cheating.

Joh

Avery Well I swore off boys but I think substituting girls would be cheating.

This depends on the point of view.

Vanessa

Sara2001 It helps me to focus on other things.

But not for a long time,I guess.

carg And being single has it advantages too 😉

Maybe,but only for a short duration,I think.

Avery Thank you. I miss the closeness of being with someone, the emotional bond.

Understandable.

It was always very important for me,when I was in love.

And it is the case now with Emilie!🙂

Avery to keep their body count down and that's good.

Yes,but,even if no risk of pregnancy and less risk of STD(I think),I think they can't be considered as virgins.

Avery ou can't get your hymen back even if you change your ways.

it was discussed here several time,we can call it "second virginity"!😉

Angelina she can send the belt to the manufacturer

But @Renita would not have one on during several weeks.

Angelina as long as there is no chastity belt for the mouth, i disagree. i am also a virgin even though i have already orally "pleasured" camryn. 😉

I think it would be difficult to agree on this point...

youdontknowme I think that is called a muzzle.

🤣

HHelen receiving oral sex is a shame

Why?

Same opinion about giving oral?

And not for a man?

Kaja

I agree.

Avery

It could be nice too,however!🙂

Kaja Oral? Virgin.
Anal? Virgin.

I disagree.

Avery I found my first time a rather momentous event. Suspect a lot of girls feel that way.

Me too.

I've often heard we never forget our first time,and I tend to think it's true.

Angelina hmm... then by your definition i will probably be a virgin forever ? 😂

🤣

Jen

HHelen I think, receiving oral sex is a shame for a girl.

What about giving I know it's still kind of a cheat on virginity and hymen in gone from solo. But still never been f***ed and that's what virgin means to me.

Angelina

youdontknowme

the exact definition of virgin is of course difficult. i myself consider myself a virgin as long as i have not had an orgasm through my girlfriend.

Renita Especially since she has my measurements 😃

she has them, right?

HHelen I think a spare belt is a good idea anyway.

do you have one for you or your daughter?

Jen What about giving

do you mean when you give "it" to another person? then of course you yourself remain a virgin

HHelen

Kaja Oral sex is womderful for both partners!

Not for people pretending to stay chaste.

Jen What about giving

Little better.

Angelina do you have one for you or your daughter?

I'm not as strict as @Renita 's mother.

Vanessa Why?

If she claims herself as a virgin.

youdontknowme

Angelina the exact definition of virgin is of course difficult. i myself consider myself a virgin as long as i have not had an orgasm through my girlfriend.

The specific wording of "through your girlfriend" makes me think of edge case scenarios that lead that definition ad absurdum, but I think we would both prefer to not get into the details of those.

Avery

Angelina the exact definition of virgin is of course difficult. i myself consider myself a virgin as long as i have not had an orgasm through my girlfriend.

I like that construct. It seems to me to allow one to be considered a virgin even though one masturbates and also if a stranger intervenes (which is a consideration for me).

Renita

Angelina she has them, right?

The belt was ordered on her name.

Angelina

youdontknowme The specific wording of "through your girlfriend" makes me think of edge case scenarios that lead that definition ad absurdum, but I think we would both prefer to not get into the details of those.

I'm only talking about vaginal conduction, everything else is getting very special 🤣

Avery and also if a stranger intervenes (which is a consideration for me).

no, as soon as someone else gives you your orgasm, i wouldn't let that count as a virgin anymore 😉

Kaja Virgin girl? No penis in vagina.

hmm... then by your definition i will probably be a virgin forever ? 😂

Renita The belt was ordered on her name.

then she can also order a second belt and in the meantime order the d-rings for the thighbands. unlikely but not impossible

Kaja

Virgin girl? No penis in vagina.

Oral? Virgin.
Fingering? Virgin.
Broken hymen (sport, sex toys, ...)? Virgin.
Anal? Virgin.

However virginity never means anything to me. It is stupid social konstrukt. The first penetration ever is the same penetration as any other...

Avery

Kaja However virginity never means anything to me. It is stupid social konstrukt. The first penetration ever is the same penetration as any other...

Judging people's worth is a stupid social construct but I found my first time a rather momentous event. Suspect a lot of girls feel that way.

Avery

Kaja Virgin girl? No penis in vagina.

What about if the penis is inserted by force? Not a virgin by this definition. Is that right?

Laura

Kaja No to all questions 😂

Joh

Avery Judging people's worth is a stupid social construct but I found my first time a rather momentous even

I am happy for you.
My first time was not so special. I can't remember it exactly. I was just nervous. I still remember the later first times with a new partner fondly.
I think everyone can find their own attitude that suits them. What I don't like is the pressure exerted by the church, parents or society.

Avery What about if the penis is inserted by force? Not a virgin by this definition.

If you feel you are a virgin than you are one.

Kaja

Avery She is raped but she is not a virgin anymore.

Avery

Joh What I don't like is the pressure exerted by the church, parents or society.

Agreed.

Joh If you feel you are a virgin than you are one.

I think you came to the right answer by rather fuzzy logic.

Joh

Avery I think you came to the right answer by rather fuzzy logic.

Not fuzzy logic 🤪 rather life experience.

youdontknowme

Angelina I'm only talking about vaginal conduction, everything else is getting very special 🤣

I was more referring to the fact that it would have to be your girlfriend for it to count as losing your virginity. I mean, nobody else is likely to be giving you an orgasm any time soon, but if they did, it would not count under that definition, even if it would under more common definitions of virginity. And I feel I am just digging myself a deeper and deeper hole... bad choice of words there, I know.

Avery

Angelina no, as soon as someone else gives you your orgasm, i wouldn't let that count as a virgin anymore

Well, my horse has kind of left the barn, what ever the case.

Kaja

Angelina Yes. You will be virgin forever.

Angelina

youdontknowme And I feel I am just digging myself a deeper and deeper hole... bad choice of words there, I know.

no i probably understood your joke, just not your current explanation anymore 😂

Vanessa Maybe,but only for a short duration,I think.

not always, some people like to be single, also because they are not made for relationships.

Vanessa I think it would be difficult to agree on this point...

probably, there are too many definitions of virginity and at least 10 exceptions to each definition. 😉

Kaja Yes. You will be virgin forever.

fortunately i see it differently 😉

Avery but I can't bring myself to say a girl who IS a virgin when she's raped is no longer a virgin.

i must say i agree with you. i think i can only say that someone is no longer a virgin if it is done on a voluntary basis.

Joh

Avery Well, my horse has kind of left the barn, what ever the case.

??????????????

Avery

Joh ??????????????

My ship has sailed.....

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