Vanessa If she hasn't agreed,you would not get engaged with her until she accepts,or break-up with her if you're sure she would never agree?Or you would have not liked it,but accepted her decision,and still get engaged?
Vanessa So a semi-reluctant wearer?Not wanting it,but accepting it to get engaged with you?
I guess you could call i that. She was told this was a precondition first and I proposed a few weeks later. We only really discussed it afterwards. And since she couldn't really come up with good reasons why her fingers or somebody else still needed access down there, it was decided.
Vanessa So,she would have to wear it often after your marriage?
As said before, she hasn't come up with a good reason why not. As long as I am at home she can take it of multiple times a day for showering, toilet etc.
Vanessa Don't you think it is a bit unfair that you have dated other women,but think she would have been wrong to have dated anyone else before?Is it the same for self-pleasure?
I guess it is unfair. But my point stands, women value competence, maturity, confidence in a man, which you only get from experience. So I am pretty sure she would prefer me over a boy that has been locked into a chastity cage from the age of 12 by his mother. But contrairy men, and I am generalising here, don't like overexperienced women, they prefer young, beautiful, chaste and innocent women. Everybody knows that! That is why women always downplay the number of previous sexual partners and men always upplay it. Because it makes them more attractive to their opposite.
There is a good biological reason for this too. Long lasting pairbonding in a women get's severly hampered after a few sexual partners, because women (in comparison to men) pairbond when they engage in sex. I can back this up with a few studies if anyone is interested. Afaik one non marital partner in a women is statistically an equivalent divorce risk to 25 previous non marital partners in a man. So what I wanna say is, yes, it might be unfair, but it's not men who made it unfair, it is just how humans work.
As for self pleasure you can basically make the same argument (pairbonding during sex), but there is actual health detriments if a man foregoes ejaculation, this doesn't exist to be true in a woman. Keeping her pure has therefore very beneficial effects on a longterm relationship.
So the "truths" that people have developed over millenia due to natural sellection and are now considered conservativ, religious etc. actually have their bases in solid science.
