Introductions

Angelina

welcome to the forum 🙂

youdontknowme You are an adult. Those are not "privileges" anymore.

@Walt who pays for this? So who really owns these items, I think that can clarify whether they are his rights or whether they are privileges

youdontknowme

Angelina That can be argued especially about the car. But definitely not about going out.

Milord

Angelina i know you disagree, but a parent that blackmail his son into chastity in exchange with study is a disgusting creature.

Angelina

Milord in exchange with study

in exchange for having financial advantages, that's why I disagree, that's something different

youdontknowme But definitely not about going out.

I would agree to a limited extent, he is an adult, but he still lives at home

Milord

Angelina in exchange for having financial advantages, that's why I disagree, that's something different

I would provide my son and my family what I can afford. Without blackmailing him. I don’t know if it makes me a good father, but I know what makes someone a shitty parent

Angelina

Milord I would provide my son and my family what I can afford. Without blackmailing him. I don’t know if it makes me a good father, but I know what makes someone a shitty parent

Financial support can also be subject to conditions, at least anything that goes beyond the legal minimum is a matter of negotiation. I received and still receive financial support that far exceeds the legal minimum, which I would have been denied if I had refused to continue wearing the belt. @Walt, unlike me, actually has the difference that he has positive consequences from wearing it and not negative consequences from not wearing it. As an adult, he can decide for himself whether it is worth it

Helen Hi, I'm Helen, 20 years old, from Australia, I don't wear a chastity belt yet, but I will in the next few days.

welcome to the forum 🙂

Sasha

Walt I have very strong opinions about parents forcing their kids to wear “absorbent panties” and similar products and restricting their removal. Because for one it has an immense phycological impact being put back in that, not to mention takes a long time adjusting to sleeping in them
The restrictions making removal impossible also creates a dependency on them, since you’ll eventually have to take care of business.
Do not support this abuse at all.
The punishments are less severe than I’d expected, but in this day and age, having a means of communication is vital. Almost a safety issue at this point.
The car I suppose depends who owns it. But restricting the computer I also see as a potential issue for completing school work.
All that being said, threatening your education if you don’t comply is just wrong, and you really shouldn’t stand for it. I’d it hard working and attending classes? Yes. Is it worth it to not be abused? YES!

Ines

Milord

No, that post is perfect, (about meaning, I do not know if grammatically).

Sasha I have very strong opinions about parents forcing their kids to wear “absorbent panties” and similar products and restricting their removal.

Capybara thinks exactly the same, but we'll as I am a bit cold I do not know if is Eau de Troll.

Ines

Walt If you want, you can also join the conversation and express your opinion on this matter, you are welcome.

Thanks for the welcome! I was lurking here for a lot of time, but I have never dared to participate openly.
You gave me valour.

Milord

Ines this post is completely wrong. Ines?

youdontknowme

Ines Feels like someone locked ChatGPT into a chastity cage.

Tjc It may not be a privilege (more a right or a necessity) to have a car or computer or phone but it is a privilege (in many places) to have them provided by parents to adult children.

I reckon that depends on whether they are being

provided as part of the room-and-board package
given as a gift
bought with allowance for free spending.

In the last two cases, those things became his property upon taking possession of them. Imposing terms after the fact requires his consent, which may of course be expected in exchange for future concessions beyond the things he is entitled to. But that is a trade, not a loss of "privileges".

Curfews/grounding however are definitely not a lost "privilege" in any case.

Tjc

youdontknowme You are an adult. Those are not "privileges" anymore.

It may not be a privilege (more a right or a necessity) to have a car or computer or phone but it is a privilege (in many places) to have them provided by parents to adult children. It is interesting to read that in Germany it is a requirement for a parent to support a child until they obtain their first degree. What happens if the child decides not to get a degree? Does this happen? when does the parental obligation end?
A computer may be required for success in school but I can see it being restricted to only schoolwork as a punishment for not following rules.

Milord

Tjc

In Italy parents need to support children until economically independent. If the child refuse to move out from home you can ask the judge to "evict" him.
For Italian law you cannot left a child (but not even a parent) completely without support. You can't let them starve, but of course, a parent should only provide the base minimum. But can be forced into paying studies.

When I was 14 my father told me "you are growing up, and you will be a man. You have to study or to work. We will support your studies, and will help you getting a work, but in the end its up to you. If you decide you don't want to do either, you will always get a bed and a warm soup, because you are my son, but nothing else, because you will be a parasite, and parasite doesn't deserve anything". That's basically the idea most parent of my generation have.

curious

youdontknowme
Have you ever been in a family where that sort of differentiation was made in a formal way?
You simply "get" a computer and use it. Usually nobody cares about the exact legal definition that goes alongside getting it.

Joh

curious Have you ever been in a family where that sort of differentiation was made in a formal way?
You simply "get" a computer and use it. Usually nobody cares about the exact legal definition that goes alongside getting it.

Are you saying that if this is the usual practice, it is not illegal?
If so, then locking someone in a CB would not be illegal either, as it has always been done this way in the family. 🤔 🤣

youdontknowme

Joh I would argue that even without a formal handover, a distinction can be made. If a device is provided arbitrarily, perhaps based on need, perhaps because it was available, it would be reasonable to assume it is a loaner device unless explicitly stated otherwise. If it was given in celebration of a birthday, holiday or personal milestone, a fair assumption is that it is a gift unless given otherwise.
As far as buying with money received from the parents, if it was given specifically for the purpose of buying a phone, the loaner case could be made, but if it was discretionary spending money that could have been spent on other purposes like fancier restaurant meals, movie tickets or similar entertainment purposes instead, that would make it his.

curious

Joh
No, I am saying that the differentiation is of course valid from a legal perspective but not how it works in real life.
Nobody buys a computer for his son and tells him "this is part of your room and board package". Probably most parents and certainly no kids think about their arrangement by which they live with their parents as a "room and board package".
So the question you are asking - while valid from a legal perspective - simply cannot be answered because it was most likely never clearly defined.

Milord

Walt I don't think this is coercion or abuse. I agreed to chastity and I can give it up and lose my privileges, but I don't want it, even though it is sometimes hard for me. Despite the inconvenience, I believe that being locked in a chastity house has a positive effect on me

Walt, I strongly suspect you are a troll, but will give you the benefit of the doubt.
Do you think that it has a positive effect? You are wrong. Deadly wrong. Let me explain:
Disclaimer: Personal opinion here, made from a 50yo mature husband and father. Maybe it's wrong from another generation's point of view. Will like to hear from you.

You have developed no willpower. You are weak-willed, and this makes you ill-equipped to face the world.
Will a girl be interested in you? Here we have some fair maidens that can answer better than me, but easily not.
Of course, you can find a girl with the chastity fetish that will keep you caged, while probably bullying you.

Will you be able to get out, away from mommy? No, because you are dependent on her. Emotionally and logistically.
Can you still function as a man? I don't know, and you don't know either. I never heard of someone who never has been released.
Will your life be normal? No, you endured a huge amount of abuse that you will pay later. For example, the fact that your mother sees interacts and controls your penis is so totally and incredibly wrong that you will be traumatized for the rest of your life.

If, even partially, you are in this situation, go away. now
Go to the police, go under a bridge. you are 22, so you are studying in university. Stop, get out, find a job, any job, save yourself.

Most of you can't understand it, but I can't stop thinking about this.
https://youtu.be/OmGqs8Gocb8?si=wy6GARNL9uvTHSRE

Ines

Milord but will give you the benefit of the doubt.

Tiger shark is saying the same, but capybara and I are more skeptical.

youdontknowme

Milord You have developed no willpower. You are weak-willed, and this makes you ill-equipped to face the world.

That is perhaps more worrying than the privacy issues and the genital control. By treating you like a little child unable to take care of himself, she is preventing your growth as a person.

Milord If, even partially, you are in this situation, go away. now
Go to the police, go under a bridge. you are 22, so you are studying in university. Stop, get out, find a job, any job, save yourself.

Harsh to say that, but there is a point to it. If nothing changes, you will never be your own man. The person your mom is shaping you into is unlikely to be interesting for partners, employers or instructors. I do not think you should seek out the life Milord is describing, but if you cannot reason with your mother, you may need to embrace the possibility of living without her to strengthen your negotiating position.

Sleeping under the bridge is the worst case though; before it comes to that, try reaching out to other relatives, to friends from school, to your school's counseling offers, anyone that can address the problem "my mother is preventing me from growing as a person". No need to bring up chastity anywhere in this.

Ines Tiger shark is saying the same, but capybara and I are more skeptical.

I sincerely hope that this story is not true, at least not entirely, but terrible parents, even terrible parents with good intentions, sadly exist. And with the internet being as large as it is, I would rather err on the side of advising a troll than dismissing a person with real problems.

Milord

Ines lets do as an exercise
@Walt if you are for real, you should think that here, in the only forum of the world where being belted by parents is acceptable, your story is too extreme to be believed. This should make you think about how badly you are f...d up

Joh

curious
I learnt at school that informing yourself is your first civic duty.
And so I can only say: find out about your rights so that you can behave and negotiate better.

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