What are some good rules for my daughter?

Laura

StrictButCorrectFather Sorry for the typo that cause the topic to be locked. I used the numpad when writing the numbers. And 5 is right under 8. she is 18, not 15!

Modified

StrictButCorrectFather

Thanks for correcting the typos.
I saw that a lot of you agree with no erotic reading / watching material and with observed showers. Just as to not confuse anybody. I voted myself too, so that i can look at the poll result and because I did not want to change the poll result I voted for everything.
Do you think the 4 times a year rule is not working?

Renita

StrictButCorrectFather I saw that a lot of you agree with no erotic reading / watching material

For me, it's strange, that you didn't do it before.

Damien

Please treat your daughter with respect. None of your rules are acceptable. None would support your daughter. I will not even comment on what I think motivates you.

StrictButCorrectFather

Damien Excuse me but the forum is about chastity. Eveyrbody else here is talking about the same thing. You don't even know what her opinion toward this is.
Second. What motivates me? I wrote what motivates me in the introduction.

youdontknowme

StrictButCorrectFather Excuse me but the forum is about chastity. Eveyrbody else here is talking about the same thing. You don't even know what her opinion toward this is.

There is a significant difference between a wearer's perspective (either there is enthusiastic consent or it is not her fault) and a keyholder's perspective (even with explicit consent there are still power dynamics to take into account). I tend to go much easier on wearers than on keyholders.

As for my views on the various rules:

Orgasm schedule: 4 times a year feels rather arbitrary, and I do not see how such a schedule would eliminate distractions in a way that a more frequent schedule or a strict no-orgasm policy would not. This feels like a way to build a lot of anticipation that will soon be met with disappointment and ultimately create more distraction than is removed.
Also, the idea of a parent paying that close attention to their daughter's orgasms sits ill with me. On the other hand, a more performance-based approach could be made to work as a motivational tool (speaking entirely in theory, of course, but some members here say they have made good experiences with that). But maybe not make the orgasm itself the reward and more increased freedoms (which may come with opportunities for orgasms, but do not make orgasm the main focus).
Lights out: That is the least disagreeable one from my perspective. Poor sleep hygiene can definitely cause academic performance to suffer, so there is a case to be made for it.
Supervised showers: Only if she asks for it, everything else is a violation of privacy.
Porn ban: Sensible, but enforcement seems intrusive again. How about limiting device access until schoolwork is complete instead?
Cell phone checks: Another major invasion of privacy.
Observed while masturbating: What is this, an incest fantasy?
Open-door policy: I think it would be fine for the bedroom until schoolwork is complete, but bathroom privacy, bedroom privacy at night and maybe some after-hours privacy once schoolwork is done are still valuable.

StrictButCorrectFather

Renita I also wanted to ask why you agree this rule important for her? Because my wife is suggesting to loosen this rule. What are your thoughts

StrictButCorrectFather

That was one of the rules I posed earleir already to be honest. I just want to be more strict about it now.

Renita

StrictButCorrectFather I also wanted to ask why you agree this rule important for her?

Addiction
Waste of time and energy

StrictButCorrectFather Because my wife is suggesting to loosen this rule

What will she gain by having an access to porn? Nothing.

StrictButCorrectFather

youdontknowme Weird that you seem to be against almost every rule. It s weird to you that I observe and care about the her orgasms and sexual pleasure? Almost everybody else in this forum is the same. There are popele who put steel bras on their daughters so that they can not even touch their breasts. Also people who think they should give their daughter an orgasm because they don't want them to touch themselves. just because this is all told from the perspective of the wearer it doesn't make it differnet.
Do you tell those people too that they should say to their parents they are mean and have an incest fantasy?

Marder

@StrictButCorrectFather I'm curious to hear how your daughter feels about being belted. Is it challenging for her?

StrictButCorrectFather

Marder thanks for your interest. She was ok with trying it and now it is getting quite challenging for her because she says the urge is getting stronger. Or rather, she told her mom and she told me.
We had a two months phase of getting used to it where she wore it more and more often until I announced now would be permanent on Nov 21st. She was shocked because she told me right away that she hasn't touched herself for more than a week. But I didn't want to announce it earlier because I knew she would start with begging for more time to get used to. So I told her no, she will try to stay chaste from now on.

pestulens

@StrictButCorrectFather, by the way, what wound up happening with your son? If my math is correct, he and your daughter should be around the same age, so are they twins?

youdontknowme

pestulens Maybe their gender changed when their birthday went back in time another half year. Manipulating the temporal continuum may lead to unpredictable results.

Well, that or he has multiple children n very simolar age ranges from different mothers, which tells a very different story of who it is that needs enforced chastity in his house.

WriterAlexis

Echoing @Marder, which (if any) of these rules does your daughter even agree to?

StrictButCorrectFather

youdontknowme Thanks for asking about him. He is actually not my real son. I should have mentioned that. He is from my wife's first husband. But he lives with his real father who has a farm. We visit him once in a while. klast year he was at our place for more than two months and we tried the chastity device with him. He had just turned 17 before coming to stay for a while with us and since we don't see him often, I accidentally thought he ad turned 16, but i quickly corrected it a few days later when he arrived and told me he was 17.

youdontknowme

StrictButCorrectFather Do you tell those people too that they should say to their parents they are mean and have an incest fantasy?

I rarely bring up incest fantasies unless the parent-keyholders involve themselves in the orgasms they allow the wearer to have, like you are doing here. But yes, I do often point out that some of the common themes of this forum are far from normal, and I do frequently advise wearers that the experiences they describe are not part of what mainstream society would consider to be within the realm of normal parenting.

And a no-orgasm policy, while not something I consider humane if not requested by the wearer, is at least something that is intellectually consistent with the idea of purity. Something that a regular schedule of supervised orgasms specifically is not.

StrictButCorrectFather I accidentally thought he ad turned 16, but i quickly corrected it a few days later when he arrived and told me he was 17.

You seem to be bad with ages. First getting his wrong, then the typo in your daughter's age... Who is her mother by the way? Your ex-wife?

By the way, your son should be 18 now if my math is right. You once mentioned that he eventually agreed to your use of chastity. Do you know if he still uses his device at times?

Marder

StrictButCorrectFather She was ok with trying it and now it is getting quite challenging for her because she says the urge is getting stronger.

But she still is ok with it...? (email in profile, just in case)

Angelina

StrictButCorrectFather

I'll try to evaluate the rules.

"Lights out at 10pm (on school nights)"
this is the only rule that i think is really good and that i would also find acceptable for an 18 year old if it helps her

"No erotic videos/novels, porn or porn related images/videos etc."
I think it's ok, but it's hard to implement/control

"Doors stay open, no matter if bathroom or bedroom"
i think it's a bit too strict, but if she abuses her privacy to do bad things (and i mean really bad things, not masturbation), it's ok

"Cell phone is checked every week for any erotic pictures, games etc., cell phone trash is also checked"
i wouldn't do it unless she is being threatened/blackmailed by strangers on the internet

"She can only have one orgasm every quarter year"
pointless, either she gets breaks (but then much more please) or not

"At least one person has to be with her and watch her while showering without belt"
from my own experience i know that this is humiliating, better set a time limit

"When orgasm is allowed once per quarter year she is observed while masturbating"
please explain the meaning behind this, i find it disgusting

Marder

So I'll have a go at evaluating the rules, too... should explain my voting.

"Lights out at 10pm (on school nights)": Sounds reasonable to make sure she doesn't skimp on sleep. Especially if there have been problems before

"At least one person has to be with her and watch her while showering without belt": Well IF someone is wearing a belt for anti-masturbation purposes, it makes sense not to leave a loophole here. "watch" could be interpreted loosely in this case: There's no reason to stare all the time. Just being around to make sure there are no unreasonable delays with her hygiene would be sufficient.

"She can only have one orgasm every quarter year": Not sure what the intention of this is. Like @youdontknowme said: If she's supposed not to masturbate, then it's too often. And if only excessive masturbation is supposed to be limited, it seems too strict.

"Cell phone is checked every week for any erotic pictures, games etc., cell phone trash is also checked": Hard no from me, this would be a major privacy intrusion, as if you would be looking over her shoulder ALL the time.

"No erotic videos/novels, porn or porn related images/videos etc.": Would not be enforceable anyway without the cellphone checks, which I'm against, so also no, if only for practical reasons.

"Doors stay open, no matter if bathroom or bedroom!": Also a big privacy violation here, so no. Sounds like jail-level surveillance. What is the intention here? You don't trust the belt to do its job?

"When orgasm is allowed once per quarter year she is observed while masturbating": Disturbing idea. Not only because of the extreme privacy violation, but as others already mentioned, it seems to imply sexual motives on your side.

Renita

Marder Would not be enforceable anyway without the cellphone checks

Easy.