Angelina one is the precursor to the other. Don't you see the connection? I am against the belt and yet I see the connection.
Only I that I see is XIX century mentality ;-)
Connection where?
Guy locked in steel belt by his mother
Actually there is no connection whatsoever between masturbation and sex with person which you do not love. As much as drinking water does not mean that you will drink poison.
One who self harms himself doesn't necessarily harm others.
Masturbation is a totally private conduct which has nothing to share with having casual sex.
hornyaspie2 Connection where?
the connection that masturbation is the precursor to sex. those who masturbate have sexual interest and will also seek sex.
i agree, but in my post i did not distinguish between sex in a relationship and casual sex. of course one has to differentiate. but there is a general connection (in my opinion).
As a man, this whole story seems more like fantasy to me... but I can be wrong
Angelina
And what with sex anyway?
If someone decides to not masturbate is a ok but it's bad if someone is coarced !
Angelina but it is not like that.
You compare an act to a behavior.
Committing an act, masturbation, does not mean that you also have the will to have casual sex.
Almost everyone masturbate and get sex, usually in this order because it is easier to do the first deed than the second for 11-13 years old. But it does not mean that the first will bring to the second. The first is something you do when you cannot do the second which you already desire.
hornyaspie2 And what with sex anyway?
sorry i don't really understand the question 
LoonyMel Committing an act, masturbation, does not mean that you also have the will to have casual sex.
maybe not random sex, but sex in general. that's why i said i didn't really differentiate, that was my mistake. but in general i still think the connection is there.
a year later
in my post i did not distinguish between sex in a relationship and casual sex. of course one has to differentiate.
I love reading these old threads. A good part of why I started on the chastity path is that in high school we saw guys every day in class, sports, lived next door, etc., so one got to know someone before starting a relationship and I was down with that. In college very often people go out to bars and hook up with guys when they are not even sure what their names are. I knew that was not for me.
a month later
Laura i recently came back across this story. I have some unfortunate information deducted from the descriptions of his belt.
It's a cheap Chinese mass produced belt that sells for as cheap as like 22 usd on aliexpress. It's not a neosteel, and their silicone liners always falls off. I accidentally broke a key in my first belt which has the same locking mechanism. I got out by cutting the belt off using garden shears assisted by minor stress forcing through the waist band because the steel is only like 0.5mm thick, which with enough pressure the steel band can cut through the protective silicone liners.
Absolute piece of garbage, likely very uncomfortable and dangerous for long term wear even. I can find a stock image of what the shop item looks like later.
Also the default locks are one or two pin magic locks which are easy to pick apparently but
they get stuck easily and corrode. It's harder to turn the lock while the belt is being worn because the locking mechanism puts pressure on the part of the lock that twists, so to pick those you'll need more tension than normal.
The steel isn't true stainless steel with high nickel content, and the upper locking plate was probably made from aluminium so you could probably attack it with gallium.
Here are some random shop pics i found from a 30 second search on Google:
Very typical but that shop bumped the price insanely high to like 300 bucks. Unfortunately many people buying think price=premium but you couldn't be further from the truth.
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zbovka the upper locking plate was probably made from aluminium
On the really cheap that I own (and is of this design and even with major modifications is unwearable for more than few hours) the upper locking plate is made from some yellow copper alloy with coated with some remarkably resilient clear coat. My somewhat more expensive belt (Black Emperor branded) has the chrome-plated upper locking plate obviously cast from something that I assumed to be some random Zinc potmetal, but no, it is something brass-like, the bottom locking plate seems to be made by bending a flat bar stock of similar material.
But then there seems to be huge variety of chinese adjustable belts and of chinese knock-offs of chinese adjustable belts. Well, there are at least five slightly different designs of the “security”/“stealth” locking plate.
Meta edit: maybe we should start a thread about the non-cable chinese adjustable belts? There already is one about the cable ones. I thought about starting such a thread but well I'm at this time mostly replying to @zbovka here…
6373e6b2 Black Emperor branded)
This one was one of their early designs. Black Emperor just stamps, sticks or laser prints their brand on top. There's a few variations of the cheap belts and done black Emperor ones come with proper stainless steel and are marginally thicker, but their earliest designs are literally just upmarketted stuff.
