Telling others about your belt

Sara2001

Angelina i would have too, i'm not sure it's always the best either. i trust camryn but i still wouldn't follow her unconditionally if i thought her decision was wrong.

I think you need to try it before you can understand how it feels. It has to be clear for both of you that you expect that her decisions have to be good for both of you, but that you will follow any of her decisions even if not without saying anything. The last aspect is important, too for her to really feel the responsibility.

Angelina

Sara2001 I think you need to try it before you can understand how it feels.

i don't think that will happen, i can't give up the control 100% but maybe 95% 😉

Vanessa

Sara2001

I may try it someday with Emilie,but for a limited time only.And we would try both roles.

Anyway,I doubt we do it for more than a try.

Angelina

Even for trying?

Sara2001

It is better to have at least a safeword to stop it immediately.

Sara2001

I'm very sorry for her... I hope she would feel better soon...

Sara2001 I think some day she will start a new equal rights relationship.

Which would likely end the same way...I know it is not how you think,and it would not make a good ambiance in the family,but I think she should leave as soon as she can(maybe when starting her studies at university)and get rid of the chastity devices and restrictions,even if not what your parents want.Your father seems to not support at all her relationship(because she wants an equal rights one,I guess;I think he would act way differently if she was in a man led relationship...),and it would be very hard for her to have a good and lasting relationship in this situation.If she doesn't decide to "break her rules"(which is probably possible only if she lives on her own),there is a big risk she has to choose between not being able to stay in a relationship long enough;or accept a man led relationship,even if she doesn't like it,to have less rules;and both would not be a good outcome for her.

Angelina does it change anything about the chastity bra she got when she met her now ex-boyfriend?

I doubt it...

Sara2001

Angelina i don't think that will happen, i can't give up the control 100% but maybe 95%

That's the point. 95% means you have a final emergency break and this means she knows that and this means, she can be less careful, because she knows you would use your emergency break if she goes to far. If you don't have an emergency break, she knows it's all her responsibility to not harm you.

Angelina

Sara2001 That's the point. 95% means you have a final emergency break

that is exactly the point, even if i give camryn full responsibility for something she knows that i will always accept her decision but intervene if it leads to a too negative result otherwise

Sara2001 If you don't have an emergency break, she knows it's all her responsibility to not harm you.

but i don't want her to take on this responsibility. i would probably almost burst because i can't speak my mind and for camryn the pressure would be enormous.

Sara2001

Angelina but i don't want her to take on this responsibility. i would probably almost burst because i can't speak my mind and for camryn the pressure would be enormous.

Of course, it's about what's necessary to understand my situation.

Sara2001

My sister's boyfriend has just ended the relationship with her. She is extremely unhappy. She hasn't seen it coming.
He said he still thinks very positive about her, but his feelings have changed from love to some kind of pitifulness.
I am very sad for her, but to be honest,.I understand what he means. I think it's very difficult to have a normal relationship when she is so restricted. I hope I can support her a bit. I hope this will not mean,. that my times with a walk without the chain is already over. From what I understand, these restricted walks where the final peace that was necessary to convince him, that his feelings are not love anymore but feeling pity for her 🙁

Gipres

Sara2001 hi Sara, I am Gipres, i'm sorry for your sister, I understand that your situation is unusual, But I trust that she will find a man who understands and appreciates her for who she is and not for her situation.

Joh

Sara2001 My sister's boyfriend has just ended the relationship with her.

I am sorry for your sister as well. I hope your father will think about what he will do to guide her in an equal relation as he promised. This situation as it is doesn't work.
I have to say this makes me angry.

Angelina

Sara2001

it hurts me very much to hear that 🙁 🙁 🙁

try to support your sister so that she finds new hope again. i just hope that she doesn't dare to enter into an open relationship anymore.

i understand what he means, but i personally don't see it as a reason to end a relationship. apparently the love wasn't big enough 🙁

Sara2001

Gipres hi Sara, I am Gipres, i'm sorry for your sister, I understand that your situation is unusual, But I trust that she will find a man who understands and appreciates her for who she is and not for her situation.

I hope so, too. Sadly this is something that usually takes time to understand.

Joh

Angelina apparently the love wasn't big enough

Out of the distance it is not on use to make this judgement.

Sara2001

Angelina it hurts me very much to hear that

Me, too.

Angelina try to support your sister so that she finds new hope again

Of course I do.

Angelina i just hope that she doesn't dare to enter into an open relationship anymore

I think in the long run, it will only make her fight more against power exchange relationships. I think some day she will start a new equal rights relationship.

Angelina apparently the love wasn't big enough

That's what I think, too. Maybe it was just a not so normal school relationship.

Joh Out of the distance it is not on use to make this judgement

It's just speculation. I personally think it's not that unlikely in school that relationships end.

Angelina

Joh Out of the distance it is not on use to make this judgement.

as i said, i was just giving my opinion, besides, sometimes you also judge people you don't know.

Joh

Angelina judge people you don't know.

Yes, I agree with you. Some time I can't prevent it but I try to minimise it.

Angelina

Joh Yes, I agree with you. Some time I can't prevent it but I try to minimise it.

It's not bad that you do it, it's ok for me, I just don't like it when you then accuse me of it.
but its ok 🙂

Sara2001 I think in the long run, it will only make her fight more against power exchange relationships. I think some day she will start a new equal rights relationship.

i hope so, although it's not my main concern. she was very open and told him very quickly what devices she had to wear. i'm a little worried because it was probably also these devices that led to the end of the relationship. it could be that she keeps it quiet for longer next time, so a potential new partner could feel put off or even betrayed if he only finds out after a longer period of time.

Sara2001 That's what I think, too. Maybe it was just a not so normal school relationship.

it's difficult at that age, that's true, but she still has enough time to find the right one 🙂

Sara2001

Angelina i hope so, although it's not my main concern. she was very open and told him very quickly what devices she had to wear. i'm a little worried because it was probably also these devices that led to the end of the relationship. it could be that she keeps it quiet for longer next time, so a potential new partner could feel put off or even betrayed if he only finds out after a longer period of time.

I don't know, it's a difficult decision.

Joh

Angelina It's not bad that you do it, it's ok for me, I just don't like it when you then accuse me of it.
but its ok

Thank you for your tolerance. I am not perfect but I try to improve.

Angelina

Sara2001

I hope she gets better soon,

short question, does it change anything about the chastity bra she got when she met her now ex-boyfriend?

Sara2001

Angelina short question, does it change anything about the chastity bra she got when she met her now ex-boyfriend?

No, it's not related to eachother.

Joh Has your Saturday walk already declined or the three of you can go for a walk?

It was just after the walk. I have no idea about this Saturday, I already asked my brother to help us. It looks like he has time.

Vanessa It is better to have at least a safeword to stop it immediately

I don't think so. A safe word is extremely important when you don't know the other one. But as long as you have it, it feels like a kind of trial period for me. If I don't have a save word, it's his responsibility to take care of my limits. This gives me more security not less.

Vanessa Which would likely end the same way...I know it is not how you think,and it would not make a good ambiance in the family,but I think she should leave as soon as she can(maybe when starting her studies at university)and get rid of the chastity devices and restrictions,even if not what your parents want

Then she would pay a high price. I often feel it's similar to your situation.

Vanessa Your father seems to not support at all her relationship(because she wants an equal rights one,I guess;I think he would act way differently if she was in a man led relationship...),

I think this is not the root cause, but he wants some things to be sure, where he can trust Daniel but not his Ex-boyfriend. He had nothing against her relationship, but it shouldn't impact her rules. Isn't it the same for you? Her rules where adjusted to some extend, but not massively.

Vanessa if she lives on her own),there is a big risk she has to choose between not being able to stay in a relationship long enough;or accept a man led relationship,even if she doesn't like it,to have less rules;and both would not be a good outcome for her.

I hope she will find a new loving man when she is older. Someone who loves her deeply enough to wait,.like Emile does for you.

Angelina

Joh Thank you for your tolerance. I am not perfect but I try to improve.

no problem i am not perfect either, even if i expect it from myself 😉

Vanessa Even for trying?

camryn and i could try it, but i think we would both feel uncomfortable. we prefer to stick to the old pattern. i make the long term decisions and she makes the short term ones and each has a right of appeal. 😉

Vanessa Your father seems to not support at all her relationship(because she wants an equal rights one,I guess

I think so too, and I agree with you that it is difficult to build a relationship. 🙁

Sara2001 No, it's not related to eachother.

I have unfortunately expected it 🙁

Sara2001 He had nothing against her relationship, but it shouldn't impact her rules.

but the rules as such speak against the equal relationship, it doesn't work that way. it might have helped if your sister had been given more freedom the longer the relationship lasted. i am in a similar situation to your sister, but the difference is that my father now sees camryn as a second daughter and ACTIVELY supports the relationship.

Joh It is comparable to the ambitions of parents who want their child to become a successful tennis star. If the talent is not there the child can train as much as it wants it will never become as good as one with talent.

good comparison 🙂

Joh

@Sara2001 Has your Saturday walk already declined or the three of you can go for a walk?

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