Should only females get belted?

Max9

Angelina Why shall I?

Angelina

Max9 Why shall I?

i don't know anyone who hasn't done it, it's at least officially the day you enter adult life. 😉

Vanessa I may be wrong,but there is classical things with trolls.

I agree with you in most cases, but it remains difficult.

Sara2001 I talk about discipline to turn something to the better

i agree with you and i think discipline is very important myself, i just don't believe it has to be physical

Vanessa

Angelina maybe but i am never completely sure about something like that. i always assume innocence until i am sure. 😉

I may be wrong,but there is classical things with trolls.

Angelina it could also be, he realised how allergic we were and decided to take the force out of it a bit to make it more believable.

I think he's more likely a troll than a liar!😉

HHelen

"Better" if a bit later,yes.

HHelen

Angelina and you think that the 18th birthday is the right moment ?

As early as no more legal concerns.

Vanessa "Better" if a bit later,yes.

Don't see a big difference.

Sara2001

Angelina i don't quite see the connection

I think physical punishment was the standard for thousands of years, why change a system that was so successful? I talk about discipline to turn something to the better, not about causing pain for fun.

Joh

Sara2001 I think physical punishment was the standard for thousands of years

This reasoning is as false as mankind. Just because something has been done for a long time does not mean it is right.
A good example is the ploughing of fields. Scientific research has shown that it is counter-productive. Regardless of the fact that it has been practised for several thousand years and still is.
You are an adult and decided this is what you want. This is ok and do it. But you can not generalise it.

Vanessa

Sara2001 I think physical punishment was the standard for thousands of years, why change a system that was so successful?

A long time ago,we used flint to make fire.It worked well,but,now,a match is better,don't you think?😉

HHelen Don't see a big difference.

To not associate it with her birthday,which should be a day she likes,and have good memories of it,not the day she lose some freedom...

Sara2001

Sure.

Max9

Angelina don't know anyone who hasn't done it, it's at least officially the day you enter adult life.

I haven't been celebrating my birthday for many years now... ok, somebrelatives used to come over for some coffe and cake, even without invitation... but I don't plan to do celebrations ... I don't see a point in celebrating something I can't even stand 🤷‍♂️

Sara2001

Angelina i agree with you and i think discipline is very important myself, i just don't believe it has to be physical

That's fine and I can understand that. I have learned that physical discipline can help me, but this doesn't have to be the same for anyone.

Angelina

Max9

well it's your decision, if you change your mind get in touch then maybe i'll go to bavaria to congratulate you 😉

Sara2001 I have learned that physical discipline can help me, but this doesn't have to be the same for anyone.

do you think it would help you less if the physical discipline was no longer there ?

Sara2001

Angelina do you think it would help you less if the physical discipline was no longer there ?

I think maybe this could be the case. I think other punishments are not that connecting.

Angelina

Sara2001 I think maybe this could be the case. I think other punishments are not that connecting.

hmm.... you should meet my father. no seriously what i want to say is that discipline and also obedience can be achieved without physical punishment/discipline if the parents make sure that they are seen as authority figures by the children.

Vanessa A long time ago,we used flint to make fire.It worked well,but,now,a match is better,don't you think?😉

🤣

Vanessa To not associate it with her birthday,which should be a day she likes,and have good memories of it,not the day she lose some freedom.

right especially not on the 18th birthday it should be the second most beautiful day in a woman's life after the wedding 😉

Sara2001

Vanessa A long time ago,we used flint to make fire.It worked well,but,now,a match is better,don't you think?😉

I think this is not comparable. 🙂

Sara2001

Angelina hmm.... you should meet my father. no seriously what i want to say is that discipline and also obedience can be achieved without physical punishment/discipline if the parents make sure that they are seen as authority figures by the children.

I think this is only one aspect. Especially with Daniel, the feeling of a strong connection is as important as the discipline.

Vanessa A long time ago,we used flint to make fire.It worked well,but,now,a match is better,don't you think?😉

I still think this can't be compared, but our new technology doesn't make the function of flints less useful.

Vanessa

Sara2001 I think this is not comparable. 🙂

It only shows that,even if something was working before,it may not be the best choice nowadays.

Angelina right especially not on the 18th birthday it should be the second most beautiful day in a woman's life after the wedding 😉

You have experienced it,maybe you could share your feelings when it happened with @HHelen,it would help her to understand why it is a bad idea.

Sara2001 Especially with Daniel, the feeling of a strong connection is as important as the discipline.

So why still use such discipline?

Sara2001 I still think this can't be compared, but our new technology doesn't make the function of flints less useful.

Yes,and,if we not use it anymore,a spanking would still hurt,but no one would experience it,as no one use flints to make fire,even if it still works.😉

Angelina

Sara2001 I think this is only one aspect. Especially with Daniel, the feeling of a strong connection is as important as the discipline.

i agree with you, but as i said before, i just don't find the connection. but ok i guess we won't agree on this point 😉

Sara2001

Vanessa It only shows that,even if something was working before,it may not be the best choice nowadays.

It's not necessary to always choose the best choice, a good size is good enough.

Vanessa So why still use such discipline?

To remind both of us about the places both of us have chosen in oir dynamic. It shows us that the other one cares about our relationship and this kind of relationship, and of course because it keeps me in line 🙂

Vanessa a spanking would still hurt,but no one would experience it

Yes, but I think the pain is only the most obvious aspect. Beside the pain it has more benefits for both, compared with any other way of discipline.

Angelina

Vanessa You have experienced it,maybe you could share your feelings when it happened with @HHelen,it would help her to understand why it is a bad idea.

I can but @HHelen's daughter has already passed her 18th birthday if I remember correctly. 🙂

Daphne

Sara2001

If I'm honest I'm envious of the dynamic you two have

Vanessa

Sara2001 It's not necessary to always choose the best choice

But it is logical.

Sara2001 To remind both of us about the places both of us have chosen in oir dynamic. It shows us that the other one cares about our relationship and this kind of relationship

However,it seems it would be the case even without it.

Sara2001 it keeps me in line 🙂

Would you misbehave,otherwise?

Sara2001 Beside the pain

There is shame.

But I understand what you mean,in your case.

Angelina

I doubt @HHelen could not add some devices/rules on her 19th or 20th or 21st,etc...birthday,however.

Sara2001

Daphne If I'm honest I'm envious of the dynamic you two have

Thank you, yes it feels really great overall. Of course the limitations are not always easy to handle, but overall it's so fulfilling? I am not sure this is the best word to describe it.

HHelen

Angelina I can but @HHelen's daughter has already passed her 18th birthday if I remember correctly.

Yes, more than an year ago.

Angelina

HHelen Yes, more than an year ago.

then happy belated 19th birthday (hopefully without chastity devices as a gift) 😃

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