Age to begin

Renita

Father4chastity And, she was in a Tollyboy by her parents at the time we were married.

Let me guess. It was without secondary shield.

Laura It's possible she is my distant relative, because it looks very familiar

Either other girls from Déjà vu 😃

Father4chastity

Renita Yes, you are correct!

Renita

Father4chastity It was traditional approach that days.

BikelockFugitive

"Yes" can mean a whole lot. I advice you to use the citation funciton.
Interesting, a family reunion perhaps?

Laura

BikelockFugitive Interesting, a family reunion perhaps?

Need to ask mom about someone 45 y.o. 😂

Vanessa

Father4chastity

Welcome!

Selin_Weiss aybe, if the mother is belted too, she can start showing and introducing her belt to the daughter.

It seems that it works often.

Selin_Weiss To get started with her own belt, I recommend soft wearing periods at the beginning.

I agree,a training is very important.

Selin_Weiss Reward her for wearing her belt.

And the mother should make cleaing breaks like having fun in the bathroom together.

Right.It was part of how Ivana acted to convince her daughters to wear chastity belts too.

Laura

Or if she flirts too much?

But she shoud be willing to wear one,not forced.

Selin_Weiss I am 23 now and my contemporary belt was organized by my husband when we got married (with 19).

So you're a "belted wife"?

Selin_Weiss Relationships have more harmony, when the female part is obedient and submits herself completely to her partner. I don't see this as a loss of freedom. It's more a gain in comfort ...

It seems there is less arguments in such relationship,even if I'm not sure it is right.

Father4chastity

They should be way older to start wearing a chastity belt.

Selin_Weiss

I think they should wait a bit more before showing them their mother is wearing a chastity belt.

Father4chastity a forever belt

What is it?

Father4chastity Also not sure if belting both would be better (at the right time) so they can share in the experience or belting the older first would be better.

If you want them to wear it willingly(and I hope you don't plan to force them wear one),it can easily happen that one is ok for it,but not the other one.

Selin_Weiss

Not a bad way,and it convinces them,not force them.

Lukas

I tend to agree with you,it is harder to be prevented to masturbate when we know how good it feels,and even harder about sex.On the other hand,I think knowing at least a bit how her body reacts,what she likes,etc...is no harm for a woman,and,when married,it would be easier for her and her husband to have a fulfiling sexual life.

Selin_Weiss

So,it is like a family tradition?

Laura

😉

However,I'm not sure most men would like it;it would depends a lot of personality;and many may think it is too mediaval for their taste.

Lukas Do you think your daughters will wear the belts voluntarily when they see their mother wearing one?

It seems it is easier for daughters to accept it if their mother wear one too,yes;based on this board and Ivana's posts on Misterpoll.

Saintprudence

Right! 😉

Angelina lots of work for those who read everything 😂

I agree...I spent hours on this board to read and answer today...A bit too much,and not sure I could do it everytime....

Father4chastity

It is way better if it is voluntary.For them and your relationship.

Father4chastity It was introduced to my wife as a punitive measure to keep her out of trouble.

It was the case for me,and it was used as a punishment(mainly for masturbation and having sex)for years before my parents decided to make me wear it permanently.

BikelockFugitive

It is why we should tell him it should be a voluntary choice for them,not being forced to wear it.

Angelina then introduce your girls to the subject slowly and gently, but do not force them to do anything that could damage the relationship

I agree.

Vanessa

Laura

🤣

Sara2001

Father4chastity She has two 60-minute sessions of corner time a day. I will tell her when those are to begin but generally I will have one session in the morning before I go to work and another session closer to bedtime.

Oh wow, this is very much. Currently I have to do a 30 minutes corner time every day until the end of may as a punishment and I already hate it, but I also have to say that I see the positive effect. That's why my bf thinks about making it permanent. 2 hours a day means your wife must have almost no leisure time, right? Have you ever tried it without daily corner time, what was the difference in her behaviour?

Father4chastity I will occasionally not perform a spanking day but generally it occurs 90% of the time.

This is different in my family and with my bf. Both, my father and my bf believe, that maintenance has to be given in 100% of the cases. Otherwise I would ask myself why I got it last week but not this week or the opposite way. Maintenance spankings are given without a relation to last weeks behaviour.

Father4chastity As to my family, my daughters know that my wife is submissive and that I am in charge of the household.

Do you want and educate them to become submissive wifes, too?

Father4chastity And, yes, I have a son who is 14 and has more freedom than his sisters do but I have not instructed him on anything yet.

Much like in out family. My brother has even more freedom then my mother.

Father4chastity I will plan my wife's day in general

My father gives my mother tasks that have to be done at the end of the day and my mother has a general routine, like cleaning the house, having dinner ready at the right time, laundry and so on. My bf does the same with me, but there are still leisure times left. Is it similar with your wife?

Father4chastity You and your bf may not like that type of structure and may consider those rules to be excessive.

Of course it is a clear structure, I can't say from what I hear it is to strict or not. I think I would need some leisure time for myself on most days, maybe an hour, sometimes maybe 2, but it is helpful for the relationship when anything else is well organized.

Father4chastity I don't go so far as to write out tasks (generally) or to give a laundry-list of requirements every day as that to me would be excessive.

In our home the lists are not written to, but my father or my bf assign the tasks in the morning (if not general tasks).

What options do your wife have if she not agrees with you? What can she do it she want to do something in a different way?

Thank you for your answers in advance.

Father4chastity

Sara2001 Oh wow, this is very much. Currently I have to do a 30 minutes corner time every day until the end of may as a punishment and I already hate it, but I also have to say that I see the positive effect. That's why my bf thinks about making it permanent. 2 hours a day means your wife must have almost no leisure time, right? Have you ever tried it without daily corner time, what was the difference in her behaviour?

I try and arrange it so my wife has approximately 90 minutes of leisure time a day. It has been a long time since I went without corner time and there is a distinct difference in her behavior, hence why the corner time is permanent and will not go below two hours a day.

Sara2001 Do you want and educate them to become submissive wifes, too?

Yes, I believe it is good to educate them to be submissive wives as well. It has worked out quite well for my wife and I and I would like for them to have that structure, control and happiness as well. But, it is crucial that they enter belting or submissive marriage voluntarily and not compulsory.

Sara2001 Much like in out family. My brother has even more freedom then my mother.

Yes, my son has more freedoms than my wife certainly.

Sara2001 In our home the lists are not written to, but my father or my bf assign the tasks in the morning (if not general tasks).

What options do your wife have if she not agrees with you? What can she do it she want to do something in a different way?

We have been together a long time so my wife rarely questions things. If by chance she does question she may ask for permission to speak on the topic and, if granted, express her concern. I will always listen, although I may not agree.

Erik

Father4chastity
Wew this is really very well written and spot-on.

(I have my opinion on the topic)

Normally the strict are more quiet here as far as I saw.

I don't mean anything else as I say in this post.

Father4chastity

Erik (I have my opinion on the topic)

Would be interested in hearing your opinion if you are open to sharing.

Sara2001

Father4chastity It has been a long time since I went without corner time and there is a distinct difference in her behavior, hence why the corner time is permanent and will not go below two hours a day.

Thank you for your long answer.

Of course I discuss all this with my bf, and because of the current situation where I have to do the corner time in the morning, he starts to think more in this direction. It would be really nice if you could explain why 2x1 hour is more effective then a lower duration. I have to say that it is very difficult for me to focus on a topic after a long time in the corner. If my bf sees a benefit in it, we will most probably give it a try and he decides after a while how we continue, so any benefit and any bad side would be welcome.

Father4chastity But, it is crucial that they enter belting or submissive marriage voluntarily and not compulsory.

My father didn't allow us to live without chastity equipment and is definitely very happy that I am in a male led relationship, but he is okay with the fact that my sister is in a relationship with equal rights.

Father4chastity Yes, my son has more freedoms than my wife certainly.

Just out of personal interest, I would be happy to know what your son is allowed to do what your wife is not and does he has any power over your daughter's or your wife?

Father4chastity We have been together a long time so my wife rarely questions things. If by chance she does question she may ask for permission to speak on the topic and, if granted, express her concern. I will always listen, although I may not agree.

That's very similar to how we do things, just that my bf often asks me for my view on something because we still learn how we want to setup anything. He has always the final saying but has of course to make sure that I am happy with my overall situation. If I am unhappy, I could quit the relationship whenever I want, but so far I am very happy.

Thank you so much for your answers. It is really good to have someone here who comes from a similar family.

Vanessa

Father4chastity ut, it is crucial that they enter belting or submissive marriage voluntarily and not compulsory.

Good.It should both be voluntary,never forced(including threatening,like losing financial support or breaking the relationship with my parents,if I don't comply,in my case).

Angelina good idea, better now that you can still change things, than when it is too late

I agree.

Sara2001

Being sure they could quit the relationship if they're not happy and taking time before marrying,to know each other well,as you're doing,is important for this.

Selin_Weiss I am happy with this concept. :-)

It's the most important part.🙂

BikelockFugitive If you want her to wear TB or CBra too, you might aswell suggest it to her.

She doesn't want her to wear these.

Sara2001 Even if not as regular then for others.

And it seems you won't be allowed to orgasm without permission,if I remember well.

Angelina it depends on the point of view, but for me it is exactly, so I stay out of most things here 🙂

Not my taste either,it's why I don't participate much in such topics.

Angelina ich wusste dass sich die deutsche sprache durchsetzen wird 😉
I knew that the German language would prevail. 😉

😡

😉

Angelina when you ask on the street

I'm pretty sure the reactions would be funny if asking random people "what are the main brands for chastity belts?"! 😉

Angelina

Sara2001 I could quit the relationship whenever I want, but so far I am very happy.

you say that now, but what's the same situation when you've been married for 30 years and maybe have children with daniel? i'm worried that your red line might shift too much and that you can bear to be unhappy 🙁

Father4chastity

Sara2001 Just out of personal interest, I would be happy to know what your son is allowed to do what your wife is not and does he has any power over your daughter's or your wife

Yes, my son--Mark--has minimal chore responsibilities. He does have the right to ask my wife or his sisters to take care of any task for him, such as cleaning his room, prepping his meals, washing and folding his clothes, virtually anything. He does not always ask them to do these things for him, choosing sometimes to do things on his own. However, I have encouraged him to speak up whenever he likes to direct them to complete a task. He is well aware of my wife's submission and he has seen my wife's belt. My hope is that he will find his own chaste submissive further down the road which he can marry. Also, my wife and daughters realize they should complete tasks requested from him much like me provided they do not conflict with my own requests.

Sara2001 Of course I discuss all this with my bf, and because of the current situation where I have to do the corner time in the morning, he starts to think more in this direction. It would be really nice if you could explain why 2x1 hour is more effective then a lower duration. I have to say that it is very difficult for me to focus on a topic after a long time in the corner. If my bf sees a benefit in it, we will most probably give it a try and he decides after a while how we continue, so any benefit and any bad side would be welcome

I personally find that an hour in corner is sufficiently long to bring about the right amount of focus on my wife's role and her duties and responsibilities. The hour time slot allows her to spend much time focusing on her tasks ahead and making sure she does what is necessary around the home to remain compliant. I have found that she gets very antsy after an hour, fidgeting and so forth, hence why I break it up into two sessions. But, again, I think a second hour session is important for focus. I don't think 30 minutes the second time around is sufficient. I can tell a difference with her for corner time and the hour at a time is the right amount, albeit twice a day. Not everybody is the same certainly, though, and whenever my daughters begin corner time it may be lower for them.

Sara2001 My father didn't allow us to live without chastity equipment and is definitely very happy that I am in a male led relationship, but he is okay with the fact that my sister is in a relationship with equal rights.

I would be okay if one of my daughter's went into a relationship down the road with equal rights. That said, however, I very much believe this is the best way and I want to highlight the benefits to the girls so they will understand that MLR are the best for everyone.

Sara2001 That's very similar to how we do things, just that my bf often asks me for my view on something because we still learn how we want to setup anything. He has always the final saying but has of course to make sure that I am happy with my overall situation. If I am unhappy, I could quit the relationship whenever I want, but so far I am very happy.

I am glad you are very happy. You are in the formative stages so successful discourse is key to establishing the parameters of the relationship. I likewise appreciate very much the discussion with you as I believe we have very similar backgrounds and can learn much from one another.

Sara2001

Angelina you say that now, but what's the same situation when you've been married for 30 years and maybe have children with daniel? i'm worried that your red line might shift too much and that you can bear to be unhappy 🙁

I think I should try as much as I can before marriage, so I know what I can accept. Of course 2 hours a day sounds very very hard for me. But maybe there is a benefit I don't see.

Angelina

Sara2001 I think I should try as much as I can before marriage,

good idea, better now that you can still change things, than when it is too late

Sara2001

Thank you for all the long answers. Please feel free to ask me whatever like.

Father4chastity Also, my wife and daughters realize they should complete tasks requested from him much like me provided they do not conflict with my own requests.

Does this mean he is allowed to punish them? My brother was only allowed to send us to corner when he turned 16 and will be allowed to punish us when he turns 18, but I think this will never happen, because he is not so much into leading and is more using his power for his convenience from time to time but very rarely.

Father4chastity The hour time slot allows her to spend much time focusing on her tasks ahead and making sure she does what is necessary around the home to remain compliant.

I try to be compliant all the time, but I think knowing that I can expect something worth then 2 hours of corner time every day would make me much more submissive. I am just not sure I could focus on my tasks while I am standing there. May I ask how corner time is done in your home?

Father4chastity I have found that she gets very antsy after an hour, fidgeting and so forth, hence why I break it up into two sessions.

Yes, I can proof that after some time it gets more and more difficult to stand still. I always try to stand as still as I can but it's almost impossible for more then one hour.

Father4chastity I can tell a difference with her for corner time and the hour at a time is the right amount, albeit twice a day. Not everybody is the same certainly, though, and whenever my daughters begin corner time it may be lower for them.

I already chatted with my bf. He think we should give a second corner time per day a try for 1 or 2 weeks, if he sees a difference, we will talk about further actions. Luckily it will only be 30 Minutes at a time 🙁

When do your daughter's have to start with corner time? I had this as a punishment since I was very young and it is a part of my weekly maintenance since it started.

Father4chastity You are in the formative stages so successful discourse is key to establishing the parameters of the relationship.

Yes, I think so, too. We talk a lot about how our future will be and we try as much as possible to get deeper knowledge, too. We already have many rules in place that we think will fit for good, but we are still very open for improvement. Especially it goes up and down between stricter rules and less strinct rules. We are still searching for the way that fits best for us. Do you have a kind of guideline/idea how we can spot out what is right for us? We already followed the suggestions of our parents and most of them where kind of ok, but we are not completely happy with the result.

BikelockFugitive

Father4chastity
Well there are quite a few companies that have half an hour-hour a day where people just plan there tasks. So I am definitly not suprised that you are able to see a difference. It is a working concept.

Father4chastity

Sara2001 Does this mean he is allowed to punish them? My brother was only allowed to send us to corner when he turned 16 and will be allowed to punish us when he turns 18, but I think this will never happen, because he is not so much into leading and is more using his power for his convenience from time to time but very rarely.

Good question. I am giving him latitude on punishment for now and the growth of that has been very organic. Right now, he is suggesting to me what punishments should be and I am either agreeing or not. I tend to agree 75% of the time so I feel that is learning from that. For example, he has a tendency to want to punish his sisters for really no legitimate reason. I am trying to work with him on all of that. So, as it now stands, he can suggest punishments to me, explain the situation and I will agree or disagree. The subject of his punishment can ask permission to speak up for why they believe punishment may not be warranted if they so choose. Typically, they do not speak up.

Sara2001 I try to be compliant all the time, but I think knowing that I can expect something worth then 2 hours of corner time every day would make me much more submissive. I am just not sure I could focus on my tasks while I am standing there. May I ask how corner time is done in your home?

Corner time in my home. Sometimes kneeling, sometimes standing. If kneeling, she is given a mat to kneel on. For my wife's corner time, I attach leads from her wrist bracelets (cuffs) to her belt so her arms are kept by her side. But, you hit on a good point, I want the corner time to make her feel more submissive. Might I ask your corner time works and has it changed over time?

Sara2001 When do your daughter's have to start with corner time? I had this as a punishment since I was very young and it is a part of my weekly maintenance since it started.

My daughters have had corner time for the past ten months or so and I started both of them together with it since they are close in age. It is part of maintenance for them but maintenance is 30 minutes per day for one time. However, should they disobey or act out, they will get a second corner time session which could vary in length from 30 minutes up. They spend their corner time putting hands behind their back and grabbing the opposite elbow. I tend to have them both in corner time at different parts of the day as well as I use the same main room for corner time and when both are in (different) corners at the same time they get more fidgety and want to look back at the other more--obviously actions I don't care for.

Sara2001 We are still searching for the way that fits best for us. Do you have a kind of guideline/idea how we can spot out what is right for us?

I think you are already starting by doing the right thing in talking to others. Are you conducting other research for male led relationships? Various informative sites can often provide insight for things you may not like or things you may like, at the very minimum simply giving you information. It's good to consider what your parents do but then find your own path. Since you are ahead of the game in that you and your bf are already well aware of how things were work, you are well advanced of many others who may only begin looking at this type of life down the road. Personally, I prefer a stricter upbringing for girls and a fairly strict set of parameters for my wife. I think it is important when leading that the male set the tone of expectations via strong leadership and control. That control is psychological and physical. Ultimately, it makes for a wonderful relationship where the woman is submissive to the man.

Sara2001 He think we should give a second corner time per day a try for 1 or 2 weeks, if he sees a difference, we will talk about further actions. Luckily it will only be 30 Minutes at a time

I am glad to hear you took this suggestion to him and are going to look at it. Rest assured, I felt my wife has become more docile and focused with that second suggestion.

I really appreciate all of your feedback and queries and am happy to answer any other questions you may have.

Sara2001

Father4chastity So, as it now stands, he can suggest punishments to me, explain the situation and I will agree or disagree

May I ask who gives the punishment?

Father4chastity The subject of his punishment can ask permission to speak up for why they believe punishment may not be warranted if they so choose. Typically, they do not speak up.

This is different in our family. We always have to pronounce possible reasons why we think a punishment is maybe unreasonable but of course only if we feel they are not. Otherwise we have to state that the punishment is reasonable. We also get a lesson before the punishment where we have to explain why the punishment is needed, what leads to the punishment and how we prevent it in the future.

Father4chastity For my wife's corner time, I attach leads from her wrist bracelets (cuffs) to her belt so her arms are kept by her side.

It was never done like this in our family, nobody had the idea so far. I will give this information to my bf.

Father4chastity Might I ask your corner time works and has it changed over time?

Normally it is just standing with hands on our tights for maintenance or long corner times or behind our head for corner time of 30 minutes or below in a punishment situation. It's very painful to hold your arms behind your head this long. It only changed in duration. In the beginning it was rarely over 30 minutes, now it can be 2 hours or more but 1 hour is very common.

Father4chastity My daughters have had corner time for the past ten months...

Thank you for the detailed information. Most of our family corner times are in the living room, too. For my bf it is mostly my room or of course his appointment.

Father4chastity Are you conducting other research for male led relationships?

Yes, we use many sources, but some are not really strict while others sound like fantasy. Only a few are believable.

Father4chastity I think it is important when leading that the male set the tone of expectations via strong leadership and control.

I think consistency is most important. If there is a rule, it should not have to many exceptions. We also believe that there should be many rules to organise the important aspects of life and relationship.

Father4chastity That control is psychological and physical.

Physical punishments are very common in my life, too. Mostly spankings.

Father4chastity I am glad to hear you took this suggestion to him and are going to look at it. Rest assured, I felt my wife has become more docile and focused with that second suggestion.

This is what he expects and what I feel is right, too.

I have so many questions, but don't know how to ask without sounding strange. Mostly about exact rules and punishments and why these rules are in place (the goal behind it).

Thank you so much for your answers.

Father4chastity

Sara2001 May I ask who gives the punishment?

I will give upon his suggestions. This typically only happens when I'm at work or otherwise not home and would otherwise not be witness to whatever infraction/misbehavior occurred.

Sara2001 This is different in our family. We always have to pronounce possible reasons why we think a punishment is maybe unreasonable but of course only if we feel they are not. Otherwise we have to state that the punishment is reasonable. We also get a lesson before the punishment where we have to explain why the punishment is needed, what leads to the punishment and how we prevent it in the future.

I do like your method and totally see where that is something that would work in the home.

Sara2001 Normally it is just standing with hands on our tights for maintenance or long corner times or behind our head for corner time of 30 minutes or below in a punishment situation. It's very painful to hold your arms behind your head this long. It only changed in duration. In the beginning it was rarely over 30 minutes, now it can be 2 hours or more but 1 hour is very common.

I totally agree with the hands on the head. Although that is a good position for corner time it is extremely difficult to hold.

Sara2001 es, we use many sources, but some are not really strict while others sound like fantasy. Only a few are believable.

So true--there are many out there that are fantasy in that they are not reality at all. Always be cautious.

Sara2001 I have so many questions, but don't know how to ask without sounding strange. Mostly about exact rules and punishments and why these rules are in place (the goal behind it).

We are friends on here so feel free to ask. This is a unique lifestyle so nothing is really strange. Generally, I believe rules are in place for structure and control of the female, which allows her to be a better sub to her man and their relationship to flourish. Giving her proper focus (including by keeping her chaste) allows her to focus on all things she can do for her man.

Sara2001 Physical punishments are very common in my life, too. Mostly spankings.

Do you have physical punishments other than spankings? And, how are spankings handed out? OTK, for example? And, with a paddle/spoon or a hand?

Thank you for the ongoing conversation and information.

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