Chastity bra

Rafael

I don't think my girls cheat more than the rest, in the last few weeks and I haven't read everything in depth because I haven't been on the forum for a long time, but I have read @Maija, yourself, @Milou-dH and a cousin of Laura have had to be punished, so although it doesn't mean that it should be tolerated, I think the situation in my house is normal with all the girls.

The intention that they wear the bra on a regular basis is not any punishment, if not that I have realized that it is a degree of protection that, in general, should be the usual. Here in the forum I have read certain things that they can do with their boyfriends... I am not going to go into depth, nor am I going to go crazy about it, but it is clear that one thing is that they take care of their boyfriends, it is something that can not be forbidden, and another that they break the rules, they have to feel protected at all times.

It's something I've talked about with my brothers-in-law and it's something that all three of us agree on.

Angelina

Rafael

ok, but what i wonder now is if @Ines sees it the same way, as far as i know she is very much against a chastity bra and i wonder if times could change there too

Rafael

Angelina

Well, you are absolutely right.
It's a problem because my brother-in-law has a long-standing dynamic at home that works admirably well, he can be proud of the behavior of his girls, but, on the other hand, he is aware that there are often situations of security vacuum that no keyholder likes.
The three heads of household agreed on the fundamentals, but it is true that he is going to find it a bit more difficult to adopt the changes he wants.

Angelina

Rafael

I think it would be something to discuss at a family gathering. but this meeting should take place with all fathers, mothers and daughters. i know that your fathers set the rules in the end, but i think it should be discussed openly between everyone beforehand

Rafael

Angelina

Too many people make meetings useless and long.
Mothers are experienced enough so that they can give their opinion when consulted and make suggestions on behalf of the women.
It is a fair point where all sides are represented and the girls can have their say.

Angelina

Rafael

I'll pass the question on to @Ines anyway, because she was always very much against a chastity bra. so @Ines, if it was decided that the bra should be part of the standard equipment, would you agree?

Ines

Angelina was always very much against a chastity bra.

Yes

Angelina so @Ines, if it was decided that the bra should be part of the standard equipment, would you agree?

I do not need such thing.

Maija

Ines I do not need such thing

Usually we women don't know what we need and what's best for us

Angelina

Ines I do not need such thing.

maybe, but you have the "all girls must be treated equally" policy. so if your fathers decide that everyone should wear a chastity bra, will you accept it?

Maija Usually we women don't know what we need and what's best for us

no, i don't agree. some women like to be led, but we are not stupid, we know what we want.

Ines but I can know that not only I do not want to wear it, but I do not need wear it.

I'm referring to the meeting that @Rafael wants to have, which is to set certain standards for you girls, and since your cousins already wear a bra, I wonder what you will do if the bra is set as the standard?

Bryan

@Ines

I almost get the impression some folks here want their fearless admin to be forced into a metal bra :-)

Ines Yes. We have to await, and the we should act in consequence.

When is the decision being made?

Ines I do not need such thing.

Ines without bands, you can (and do) get some pleasant stimulation.
That in my family is no different from masturbation, and, therefore, not acceptable.

You've mentioned how the bra is "not need(ed)", but I struggle to reconcile with your thoughts on "pleasant stimulation". Do you truly not get any stimulation from your chest, or is it that you have enough self control that it isn't an issue?

Ines

Maija Usually we women don't know what we need and what's best for us

Disagree, we should be protected, but we are not stupid, we know perfectly what is need and what is freak control.
If you like wear the bra, is OK, wear it, since is the rule in your home, but I can know that not only I do not want to wear it, but I do not need wear it.
I disagree deeply of your statment towards we the women. I know that for us is much better to let the control to the men, and in fact I think that by nature we are a bit submissive with the men, it is nice, and it allows live in peace with our nature, but it works only when our men are able to make us happy, if he is a useless dumb that can not give happiness to his woman: bye.
And to wear a chastity bra does not make me happy, @Maija .

Bryan

Maija I also strongly disagree. Women know what they need and is best for themselves. Many, if not most, abusive situations arise from people trying to convince women to trust someone else instead of themselves.

There are many reasons a woman can choose to wear a belt. Perhaps she wants to please or connect with her parents or partner, perhaps it helps her resist urges that she wants to control, or that she enjoys the act of submitting to someone else, or it is a family tradition that she wants to continue, or it provides a feeling of safety in public. She can certainly get suggestions and guidance from others, but it is always the woman who knows herself best and she should respect her own intuition and strongly represent her interests to anyone who thinks they know better.

Rafael

Maija Usually we women don't know what we need and what's best for us

I think what you say is not accurate. I think that if you know it perfectly, but sometimes you get carried away. Girls have many rules, more than men, and naturally, you have moments of weakness. This does not mean that measures do not have to be taken, you are now punished yourself, but we do have to keep in mind that girls are treated much more rigorously than boys in this.

Kaja

Rafael Urgh. No. Go back to middleages.

Ines

Angelina but you have the "all girls must be treated equally" policy.

But in every home we have different rules

Angelina so if your fathers decide that everyone should wear a chastity bra, will you accept it?

It does not have to happen, our standards are older and have worked well in the past. I do not think my father would decide that paradise for us or at least not for daily or regular use.

Angelina I wonder what you will do if the bra is set as the standard?

If finally it happens, it will be a fathers and mothers meeting, I can not do so much about it, @Angelina .

Angelina

Ines It does not have to happen, our standards are older and have worked well in the past. I do not think my father would decide that paradise for us or at least not for daily or regular use.

well, i'm curious how this will develop in the future, the question will be who orients themselves to whom. if @Rafael's family has different standards than yours and you want to make the standards uniform, the question is whether a middle ground will be found or whether the strictest standards will be followed.

Jen

Ines lol this thread is getting funny. What if... What if...

Ines It does not have to happen, our standards are older and have worked well in the past. I do not think my father would decide that paradise for us or at least not for daily or regular use.

👍😁😁

Raquel

Angelina well, i'm curious how this will develop in the future, the question will be who orients themselves to whom. if @Rafael's family has different standards than yours and you want to make the standards uniform, the question is whether a middle ground will be found or whether the strictest standards will be followed.

I believe men have already decided and I believe that the nuances will move very little.
To sum up, I think that two keyholders have made their decision and another one, although it doesn't sound bad, has the problem that the girls will not willingly accept that decision. But in the end it is the fathers who make the decision, not us, and besides, if some of them get their way, the rest of us are not going to keep quiet.

Angelina

Raquel To sum up, I think that two keyholders have made their decision and another one, although it doesn't sound bad, has the problem that the girls will not willingly accept that decision.

let me guess, the third keyholder is @Ines' father? i don't understand sometimes in your family why you talk so much around essential points, it makes it hard to understand what is happening with you.

Megan

Whatever you decide just make certain it is comfortable.

Ines

And I think that it is the key, any chastity bra can make the same than a fabric bra.
I doubt that any craftsman can achieve anything half-good.
If they were women they will know it.

Ines

Angelina

National differences. 😅
I think that Germans are very direct, I think that all is clear, but without be rude.
Every country has its uses.

Rafael

Angelina let me guess, the third keyholder is @Ines' father? i don't understand sometimes in your family why you talk so much around essential points, it makes it hard to understand what is happening with you.

Ines National differences. 😅

curious So if I get that right, Ines will have to wear a chastity bra in the future, even though she frequently said she really does not like steel bras?

Yes, you are right.
First of all I remember an explanation about the approaches to issues in each country, which we were told in business school.
It compared the conversations to hamburger, with the meat being a positive thing or thing you liked , and the bun being some problem to be negotiated or solved.
In a conversation with a Frenchman, the scheme was bread-meat-bread, with a Spaniard, meat-bread-bread and with the Germans bread-bread-meat.
Nobody should take that joke badly.

As Angelina says, that is the situation. My brother-in-law is in favor of offering his girls more security by making them wear the bra as my other brother-in-law and I have thought, but he is a bit apprehensive that his women might not accept it well.
He also knows that not only will it serve to increase security, but it will also decrease gossip and comparisons.
But in the end it is a decision that only he can make.

Angelina

Ines I think that Germans are very direct, I think that all is clear, but without be rude.

i don't want to be rude either, but it is better for me to understand in english when the answers are clear. 😉

Rafael but he is a bit apprehensive that his women might not accept it well.

that's exactly the point, he knows @Ines doesn't think she needs it, even if it means creating inequalities between the girls. i just wonder what will happen if @Ines father says he wants the girls to wear a bra now anyway, will @Ines accept that?
And @Ines how often do you see your cousins? maybe you can just test how it feels to wear a bra?

curious

I'll try to put it differently so @Ines doesn't think I'm rude, but in general you're right

Ines I do not catch your point.

you say the key holder (your father) should make the rules anddecisions. what if he wants you to wear the bra? will you refuse or will you accept it? simple question

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