Chastity bra

Renita

Vanessa Not easy without accessing his computer or bank account...

But you have access to their router

BikelockFugitive

Renita
@Vanessa
Just install a Bug on the fathers PC and steal his login info.
I mean... They're pretty much undetectable if installed on manually...

Vanessa

Renita BikelockFugitive Yes,but if discovered I would be in big trouble;and I don't need it generally, it was especially as I saw the ad on my father's desk...And I hadn't to wait too much to know more about it.

Renita Most of the time,yes.I think.But not perfect,sure.I disagree with the "need" of a chastity belt,so I don't think I should not be trusted because I fight it.

I only do a quick post about the talk with my parents,and I'll reply more here later.

The new rules are not pleasant at all,but I managed to make it a bit more bearable.It was a long and intense talk,so I'll summarize it.

Firstly,they told me about what they've decided,no input allowed for me at the start of the talk.

As I feared,they decided to put stricter rules in place from now,and they've ordered a chastity bra for me;wearing thigh bands more often is too planned.They told me they thought a lot about it,and they think these extra devices/extra wearing are the more easy to use for applying the rules.They explained me they think it is needed as I will be alone a lot more now,and they don't want me to fight too much against my belt and tries many things to bypass it;the thigh bands will help to prevent it;and they don't want too I spend too much time alone with Emilie and go more far than we should(I think they guessed we already made love,even with no orgasm for me,which is forbidden),and the bra will help to make such activities way less attractive for me(as I won't be able to be stimulated on my feminine parts at all,with a chastity bra on).They added they haven't ordered the chain to connect the thigh bands to the secondary shield,nor the ones for connecting the chastity bra to the chastity belt,they thought it was not necessary,nor useful.

They told me that I'll have to wear it every time I'll be alone at home,and not at night.If I'm punished,as wearing thighs bands will be more common,the punishment will be to have to wear the chastity belt+the thigh bands+the chastity bra day and night during the duration of my punishment(probably no more than a few days).

Secondly,we've started to define it more precisely,and I finally was allowed to have some input.I was angry and sad,but knew that if I show them I'm angry or yell at them,it would means a spanking,then staying in the corner,and not allowed to have any input,so I stayed calm and discussed politely.

They agreed quickly to not make me wear the thigh bands outside.I could ask them to not put them on me if I've to go out(depending on the reason I want to go out,and,in some case,my behaviour,it could be allowed or not(an appointment for work would always be ok,a meeting with friends may be refused));if I have to go out when not expected,I'll have to call them and they'll say if it is ok or not.
I'll have three boxes:one with the key for the thigh bands part in,one with the key for the chastity bra in and the third one with the key for the chastity belt in;each one locked by a plastic lock with a serial number on it.Easy to cut,but can't be replaced easily.If I'm allowed to go out when I call them,I'll be allowed to cut the lock of the box with the key for the thighs bands on it,but not the other ones,of course.
For the chastity bra,it would be rarer to be allowed to not have it on.It is less restrictive than the thigh bands and they don't think there is many reason for asking to not wear it.And I fear I'll have to wear it even when I'll have a job...However,they told me they'll consider accepting to not put it on me if it is very hot.
After fighting hard for it,I managed to make them accept to not put the chastity bra or thigh bands on me if I'm alone for less than one hour.But,in counterpart,if they'll be at home less than an hour,and leave again,I'll have to keep it during the short moment they're at home with me.
One rule I hate is that these rules will apply to the week-end,even if there is no difference during the week-end now,than when I was studying in university...
I think it was the main changes,I may have forgotten some,it is still hard emotionally for me(I cried a few times since this talk),and I complete if necessary.I hope I was clear enough and not make too many mistakes(especially about conjugate the verbs at the correct times,I've some doubt about it).

The chastity bra should be delivered at the end of the week,and there will be no changes about the other rules about chastity and chastity belt.I'll probably spend the next afternoon in thigh bands,too...

I asked for a change,however,which was agreed:if I comply with the new rules,Emilie will be allowed to spend 0 to 2 nights at home each week(depending on our behaviour;yes,they'll consider Emilie's behaviour too for it),but we both will be locked in our rooms(even if I'm sure Emilie won't cheat on me,and my twin won't cheat on his girlfriend,they're not at ease to have Emilie's room and my twin's room both open...).It is mainly allowed as we won't have to go university the next day,it may be less allowed when I'll have a work,however.I guess they've not been hard to convince as they may want to compensate a bit the new rules,hard to accept for me;they probably have noticed I'm disturbed by these rules,and especially the chastity bra.

Don't hesitate to ask questions,even more if some parts are unclear,I'll try to answer these,even if i do only a quick post her.This one is way longer than planned and not very clear,I think...

James

Renita Yes and spanked.

Laura

BikelockFugitive Just install a Bug on the fathers PC and steal his login info.

That's a crime. Strange, you don't know it being a legal person.

BikelockFugitive

Laura Me suggesting it doesn't mean that I am not aware of it.
I am not saying you need to do that. You can download such tools just straight from the internet.
And its only something the affected could do since... well... That's a different thing in germany.

Renita

Vanessa which doesn't help my parents to think I'm responsible and they can trust me...

Do you consider yourself as such?

Sara2001

Vanessa Sorry to hear that your rules getting stricter. 🙁

I have some questions. It feels like some of the rules where made in a rush. Like they are not consistent.

Why are you allowed to sleep without the chastity bra? That means you have all the time you want to play with your boobs. Also you have time when your parents are at home but you are in your room. For me this feels like a loss of comfort without more security.

Same for the tightbands. If they allow you to not wear a locker or chain between the tightbands at work that's phantastic and it's reasonable that you don't try to cheat at work (I would love to have this freedom, too), but I don't understand why they lower the security in other situations they cannot supervise. I can not see what they have in mind for you.

What does it mean when you are locked for sleeping, how is it working? Why has Emile to be locked, too?

Why aren't you allowed to sleep in the same bed when you wear belt, bra and tight bands? Nothing can happen than.

Angelina

Vanessa

hi vanessa, too, sorry to hear your parents made the rules stricter. 🙁

interesting is when i read your lyrics came me the same questions as @Sara2001 . it seems as if your parents want you to wear bra and the bands at all times, but somehow also not. also you write, you have convinced your parents not to wear the bands outside and then again, yet.

maybe i can answer sara's last question. probably her parents don't want her to sleep in a room with emilie because they're not married, but i'm astonished about the other things, too.

maybe you can clear something up, but probably the whole thing will clear up as soon as you have the bra. i don't have to tell you anymore that it's quite hard to wear one, i've already written that several times.

Laura

Vanessa They explained me they think it is needed as I will be alone a lot more now,and they don't want me to fight too much against my belt and tries many things to bypass it;the thigh bands will help to prevent it;

That make sense if you are going to stay home alone most of your time.

Vanessa They added they haven't ordered the chain to connect the thigh bands to the secondary shield,nor the ones for connecting the chastity bra to the chastity belt,they thought it was not necessary,nor useful.

How about a chain between bands instead the lock?

Vanessa For the chastity bra,it would be rarer to be allowed to not have it on.It is less restrictive than the thigh bands and they don't think there is many reason for asking to not wear it

So, you want you to wear the chastity bra even if you go outside?

Vanessa And I fear I'll have to wear it even when I'll have a job...

You were going to move out anyways if you find a permanent job.

Renita

Vanessa The chastity bra should be delivered at the end of the week

We will have another chastity bra wearer besides @Angelina

Vanessa

A lot of acftivity here,I'll probably won't answer evrywhere,but I'll answer this one and do some updates.

Sorry again to not have been clear enough.

I won't have to wear chastity bra or thighbands when I'm not home alone as I won't be able to fight my belt as much as I can if I'm not alone(even at night),and I can't try things which takes a lot of time or need cleaning after(like the trick Megan told about on Misterpoll);and,more generally,I don't dare to fight it too much if I can be caught,even if not stricly forbidden(my parents know I fight it and understand it a bit),it can lead to punishment if I spend too much time or energy to fight it.For playing with my boobs,sure I can when I've not the chastity bra on,and I sometimes do it,but I can't orgasm this way and often frustrates me more than helping me(that's why I don't do it very often,even if I like to feel some pleasant feelings here,especially if it is Emilie who caress/kiss/lick/etc... me here)...

For thigh bands,I'll never have to wear these outside.If at home alone,I'll have these put on before my parents leave,and have to wear it until my mother or father is at home again;if I've to go out,they won't put these on me when they leave,and if I was supposed to stay alone at home(and so,with the thight bands on),but have to go out unexpectedly,I've to call them to be allowed or not;if yes,I'll use the locked key to take the thighs bands off then go out,if not,I'll stay at home,with thigh bands on.

About sleeping with Emilie,the first part,not sleeping in the same bed,is simple:Emilie have no chastity devices,and even if I wear all of mines,I still can give Emilie orgasms,which is considered as" having sex" for my parents,and so forbidden.

The second part,both rooms locked,is a bit stupid;I can understand I'm locked in my room,but the reason for locking Emilie's door,way less.My parents explained it is to be sure that,if Emilie and my twin feel a bit alone,they'll not become "closer" as Emilie will be at home more often now...I'm sure that Emilie won't cheat on me,and my twin won't cheat on his girlfirend,but my parents think it it is better that way.I tend to doubt it,maybe they want to make Emilie "pay the price" for wanting to sleep near to me;or they accepted,but don't appreciated,I've used the stricter rules to make them accept a bit more intimacy for me and my girlfriend(in exchange of accepting my newr ules more obediently).Not sure,I'll have to have a talk with them aboutit in some time...

Laura That make sense if you are going to stay home alone most of your time.

Yes,but it it is still not pleasant for me...

Laura How about a chain between bands instead the lock?

Not allowed,as I'll be at home when I've to wear it,I "can deal with it without a chain".

Laura So, you want you to wear the chastity bra even if you go outside?

I guess you meant "they want you";if so,yes,even if they aren't totally decided about what to do for this part,when i'll have a job.

Laura You were going to move out anyways if you find a permanent job.

Yes,and probably if Emilie have one too(living together),but it is very hard to get a permanent one when we've just started to search one without some experience,except if we're very lucky(at least,in France).And almost impossible to rent a flat if we've not a permanent job.

Renita We will have another chastity bra wearer besides @Angelina

Yes...

About the update part:For now,it is pretty quick;the bra was delivered precedent Friday,and quickly put on me...Physically,it is ok,it is not painful,even if I can't lay face down(which will be a problem if I've to wear the bra after getting spanked...),it doesn't hurt my breasts nor my shoulders,as I feared.But it'll be hard in Summer,if they make wear it even when it is hot(still undecided)...Emotionally,it is different,it is awful for me to not have any access to my breasts,nor being able to look at these...I can only feel or look the steel covering these...It is very(too much...)secure,I've already fought it a lot,and will fight it,but no chance to take it off,move the cup upper or downer to free my breasts,break the lock...As effective as my chastity belt...

Since it was delivered,I've to wear it(so yes,I have it on when typing this post...);I complained as it was not what have been decided,but they explained me they want to be sure I can wear it day and night for some days,to be sure I can wear it without injuries or cut(even if I'll only wear it during nght if I'm punished,so let's hope not too often).I've been crying several time since I've to wear it,it is very disturbing,and I've trouble to accept it...

I hope I've been clearer this time;too long post(and a bit too tired...)to review my post closely,I hope I haven't did too much mistakes!

Angelina

Renita

i don't know if i have pity for Vanessa yet, but i'm also happy to be able to exchange experiences with someone about bra soon!

Laura

Vanessa The second part,both rooms locked,is a bit stupid;I can understand I'm locked in my room,but the reason for locking Emilie's door,way less.My parents explained it is to be sure that,if Emilie and my twin feel a bit alone,they'll not become "closer" as Emilie will be at home more often now..

Maybe it's time to think about a chastity belt for her again? In my opinion it's always better to be locked in a chastity belt that in a room.

Vanessa About the update part:For now,it is pretty quick;the bra was delivered precedent Friday,and quickly put on me...Physically,it is ok,it is not painful,even if I can't lay face down(which will be a problem if I've to wear the bra after getting spanked...),it doesn't hurt my breasts nor my shoulders,as I feared.

What is the make? My-steel? What measurements did you need for it? Like for regular brassière digit and letter?

Angelina

Vanessa

hi Vanessa,

first of all thank you for your contribution, you remind me very strongly of myself when i got the bra, the psychic pain is much stronger than the physical pain. i still don't understand your wearing times. sometimes you write bra and bands as punishment, sometimes when you are alone at home and sometimes in public. that's not quite clear for me yet but you can give some updates when you wear something.

now if locking the doors is one of your parents' rules, you either have to agree or emilie no longer sleeps with you. as laura says, a CB would be an idea for her but your parents have no authority over her body, in my opinion.

i don't think your twin is interested in emilie, he has a girlfriend of his own if i remember correctly. if emilie is actually bi or does she only like women, then the problem is solved anyway because then your parents don't have to worry. and yes if you bring her to orgasm it is also a kind of sex even if you have little of it.

so have fun with the bra (i know it's awful) and if you have something on your soul write calmly, i have the "pleasure" myself

Angelina

Vanessa

so i threw your text into a good translator again now and withdraw my questions regarding the wearing time. now i know everything 😂

Vanessa

Laura Maybe it's time to think about a chastity belt for her again? In my opinion it's always better to be locked in a chastity belt that in a room.

I don't want her to wear this,and my parents would probably think it is inappropriate for them to do it...Even if I think Emilie may accept it.

Maybe I could suggest to have a spare one,with my parents have the keys for it,and put it on her only for the night,when we sleep together.I may talk with Emilie about it,but I'm afraid that my parents decide she should stay in it when not together too,even if at start,they won't accept to decide it...Or add she must wear a chastity belt if she wants they allow me to date her.It would be good to sleep with her,but can backfire on us easily...

Laura What is the make? My-steel? What measurements did you need for it? Like for regular brassière digit and letter?

Yes,My steel.Only a letter(A to D).

Angelina the psychic pain is much stronger than the physical pain

Totally right!

Angelina now if locking the doors is one of your parents' rules, you either have to agree or emilie no longer sleeps with you. as laura says, a CB would be an idea for her but your parents have no authority over her body, in my opinion.

I agree it could help,but only for the night.But it is risked,and I don't want her to have to wear one for dating me.

Angelina i don't think your twin is interested in emilie, he has a girlfriend of his own if i remember correctly. if emilie is actually bi or does she only like women, then the problem is solved anyway because then your parents don't have to worry. and yes if you bring her to orgasm it is also a kind of sex even if you have little of it.

She's bi,and had only one lesbian experience before me,only once,with her best friend,to know how it feels.But Emilie and my twin won't cheat,no doubt about it. I agree,making her orgasm can be considered as having sex.

Angelina by the way, if i had the choice, i would wear a CB myself before i let myself be locked up Laura Same for me. If I was Emily I would prefer chastity devices in her situation.

Emilie could accept it,if it is necessary for sleeping with me/dating me.

Sara2001 sked Daniel what he thinks about me having a chastity bra

Not a good idea,it is very hard!And I agree with others posters,if you do it,only you or your parents should have the key.And,personnaly,I think you should be the only one to have the keys,otherwise,your parents may decide you have to wear even when not on dates...

Quick update for my case:Not much news,but I know the "permanent wearing" of my chastity bra will end next Friday,and,if there is no problem,the new rules will start to apply Saturday(including allowing Emilie to spend the night at home).Still bearable physically,but hard emotionally;and still crying often...

Renita

Angelina a CB would be an idea for her but your parents have no authority over her body

But they have the right to set rules in their home

Angelina

Renita

yes probably emilie will have to decide either not to sleep with Vanessa or to accept the rules of her parents.

theoretically the parents have no right to have emilie's body, of course they can kick her out but that's not a good condition. what the Vanessa do is hard but she's their own daughter but they can't have a "strange" girl physically.

by the way, if i had the choice, i would wear a CB myself before i let myself be locked up

Laura

Angelina by the way, if i had the choice, i would wear a CB myself before i let myself be locked up

Same for me. If I was Emily I would prefer chastity devices in her situation.

Sara2001

I followed @Angelina suggestion and asked Daniel what he thinks about me having a chastity bra (not as a suggestion to wear one but in general).

He wonders why I came up with that point. I told him about the points we talked about here. At the end I'm still not sure if would be a good way.

His opinion is, that he would agree to it if he is the one with the key to it and my father has the spare key for showering on Sunday. He would only keep me in the bra when he don't want to play with me and my body. This means it would not prevent me from getting horny and I only loose more self control. He now likes the idea but for completely different reasons then I do

He said he will think about it for a while now, then I will know if I have to ask my fathers permission to buy a chastity bra from my money or not. I will of course have chances to state my opinion and he will take my points into his descision.

Raziel

Sara2001
There's nothing to talk about with your father or Daniel, don't buy the belt. The moment Daniel said they wanted to hold the key, means you both have a disagreement, so you do not need to mention the bra or buy one at all. If you do not want Daniel to touch you in certain places, say so, or that is considered sexual assault.

I found proof of what you said earlier about your rules and expectations before he controls them:
Aug 6, 2019:

Sara2001 I told him I can accept him as a leader as long as I have the feeling that my happiness, wishes and dreams are more important for him then his own.

Aug 7, 2019:

Sara2001 He said he likes how I instantly address the the things that are important for me

Aug 11, 2019:

Sara2001 The good thing is that I now feel that he would not implement something that I don't want

Simple solution: be your own chastity bra keyholder or don't buy one at all.

Angelina

Sara2001

no no no, what's he supposed to do? he completely misused my idea for his own purposes. it was a strange idea that i brought in for your own protection.

if you buy the bra only when you have the keys, there is no other reason for it. the bra was meant to protect you from getting horny and not to give you more power over yourself.

generally i find some aspects of your relationship very disturbing, i have the feeling you are going to marry a man like your father. apparently you can't talk to both of them about such problems without them using it against you

Laura

Sara2001 In my opinion, if you would like to wear a chastity bra, keys must be held by your parent or sister, but not by you or Daniel.

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