New Rules

Ines

Still are very abusive rules.
I think is not advisable or tolerable such behavior.
Maybe both you need one talk more.
He should understand that even, is in risk, due behavior with you and your girlfriend.
He is walking in a very tiny cable.
My opinion. No more.

Laura

Angelina I think since you are 17 already, the rules should be less strict.

Katie

Angelina After a long discussion we came to an agreement that I would get the one hour a week, but I have to set up a camera in my room, via live stream, the camera transmits directly to my father's cell phone, so that he can call me at any time during this one hour able to see. So I get the one hour without tighbands, but my father can watch me.

does he have access to the camera when your not exercising? That’s a little weird for a father to be spying on daughter.

Ines

Katie

Katie That’s a little weird for a father to be spying on daughter.

For once. At least:
I AGREE WITH @Katie

Angelina

Katie does he have access to the camera when your not exercising? That’s a little weird for a father to be spying on daughter.

it's only for one hour a week, otherwise no camera

@All
hmm, i am honestly surprised about the reactions here, when i signed the contract yesterday, i was actually satisfied with myself, because i managed to get at least a little relief. apparently you expected more

Tobbe

Angelina If you are satisfied, no one else should complain about your agreement. You know for yourself what was possible and impossible.

Ines

Angelina
As you know, I said the same some times, even with the procedure with Camrym.
It is not an adequate way, in my opinion.

Vanessa

Angelina

Good you have some more freedom.

But I agree with @Ines and @Katie.

Firstly,about the camera.He wanted to use it some time ago,and he changed his mind.He should do it this time too.Even if he thinks you can cheat your belt,you can propose him to do your gymnastics without thigh bands during the week-end,and he would have to get one hour of free time to supervise you.Or you can do it in the living,while he could keep an eye on you while watching the TV.But no camera in your room.

Secondly,about the connection chains.Not a good idea(and 1 week with these on for 30mn free of the bra...).The connection chains are a punishment,and it should not be used in a rule.I was in a similar situation when my parents wanted me to wear my chastity bra at night when sharing my bed with Emilie,but agreed I was right and changed their mind about it when I remembered them it is a punishment and I should not punished for sleeping with my girlfriend while following the rule.You should not have to wear it like if you were punished if you follow the rule.

Thirdly,about your girlfriend's belt.She should be present with you and your father when discussing it,as she's the one concerned.And there should not be "rules" for her;it is not your father's role to put rules for her.

Angelina it's only for one hour a week, otherwise no camera

It should not be used.Even for one minute.

James

Tobbe If you are satisfied, no one else should complain about your agreement. You know for yourself what was possible and impossible.

Look who is talking! Anyhow...

Angelina

Tobbe

thanks, i'm not 100% satisfied, but it's at least a small improvement 🙂

Ines

i know your opinion, but i never said it is the perfect way, just that it is a little better now

Vanessa He wanted to use it some time ago,and he changed his mind.He should do it this time too.

but there were other reasons then

Vanessa you can propose him to do your gymnastics without thigh bands during the week-end,and he would have to get one hour of free time to supervise you.Or you can do it in the living,while he could keep an eye on you while watching the TV

and where exactly is the difference? it is the same, only that my father does not have to be physically present

Vanessa The connection chains are a punishment,

well, it's a deal and has nothing to do with punishment, it's an accessory and now part of a deal. i don't have to use it every month, i can refuse to open the bras, but then camryn can't play with my breasts

Vanessa And there should not be "rules" for her;it is not your father's role to put rules for her.

on the one hand i have discussed with camryn in advance what i want to try. on the other hand i have to make it very clear that it is not camryn's rule but mine. as i said before, camryn is allowed to have an orgasm at any time, only i am not allowed to give it

I think I'm being misunderstood here.

James

Vanessa Firstly,about the camera.He wanted to use it some time ago,and he changed his mind.He should do it this time too.Even if he thinks you can cheat your belt,you can propose him to do your gymnastics without thigh bands during the week-end,and he would have to get one hour of free time to supervise you.Or you can do it in the living,while he could keep an eye on you while watching the TV.But no camera in your room.

Secondly,about the connection chains.Not a good idea(and 1 week with these on for 30mn free of the bra...).The connection chains are a punishment,and it should not be used in a rule.I was in a similar situation when my parents wanted me to wear my chastity bra at night when sharing my bed with Emilie,but agreed I was right and changed their mind about it when I remembered them it is a punishment and I should not punished for sleeping with my girlfriend while following the rule.You should not have to wear it like if you were punished if you follow the rule.

Thirdly,about your girlfriend's belt.She should be present with you and your father when discussing it,as she's the one concerned.And there should not be "rules" for her;it is not your father's role to put rules for her.

Agreed. Especially the camera. Just no.

bismarck

Angelina Glad to hear that. Better if the issue of chastity bra could be further address. It seems parents like you and Vanessa still have some concern about your feeling and can make concession, through have made you into some strange experience. Also your partner very good sharing the feeling of been belted with you. I think you may try avoid joining the legs when you are free, if you have already been accustomed to that, because viewing from a bystander that kind of movement could look very odd. Naturally legs move separately.

Vanessa

Angelina just that it is a little better now

Some parts are worse,I think...

Angelina but there were other reasons then

But it is very similar.

Angelina and where exactly is the difference? it is the same, only that my father does not have to be physically present

There wouldn't be any camera in your room.Huge difference,in my opinion.

Angelina it's a deal and has nothing to do with punishment, it's an accessory and now part of a deal.

Yes,but it works exactly like when you're punished by having to wear the connection chains.

Angelina I think I'm being misunderstood here.

I don't think so.It is your rules,but these rules affect mainly her,so she should be present when discussing it.

Angelina

bismarck

well, I think that at least you understand what I'm about. 🙂

i knew in the beginning that i can't expect too much, but because i wrote about the topic rule changes a lot before, some users probably expected more

Megan

Angelina some users probably expected more

I really don't like the feeling that your chastity belt comes 1st and that the person inside it seems to be 2nd. No mention of your comfort? It does seem abusive.

Angelina

Megan I really don't like the feeling that your chastity belt comes 1st and that the person inside it seems to be 2nd.

how do you come to this statement?

Megan No mention of your comfort?

of course we talk about the comfort of the devices. my father tries everything to make my devices as comfortable as possible, but he does not want to remove the devices as such

Angelina

Vanessa Some parts are worse,I think...

yes, but the advantages are better than the disadvantages. besides i can always say that i don't want to use the advantages, then i don't have to bear the disadvantages

Vanessa There wouldn't be any camera in your room.Huge difference,in my opinion.

no because it doesn't matter. it's the same if he watches me personally or via camera, besides it's only for one hour per week

Vanessa Yes,but it works exactly like when you're punished by having to wear the connection chains.

Yes, but I have a question. Do you think if you agreed to wear the bra when Emilie slept with you, you might have gotten better deals?

Vanessa I don't think so.It is your rules,but these rules affect mainly her,so she should be present when discussing it.

just to put your mind at rest, camryn came to see me yesterday. we talked about everything and if she had wanted to change anything she could have. 🙂

Vanessa

Angelina no because it doesn't matter. it's the same if he watches me personally or via camera, besides it's only for one hour per week

No way to be sure he would never turn it on at another time.

Angelina Do you think if you agreed to wear the bra when Emilie slept with you, you might have gotten better deals?

I don't think so.Otherwise my parents would told me what advantages I would have gotten if I agreed.

Angelina

Vanessa No way to be sure he would never turn it on at another time.

ah ok now i understand your concerns, i forgot to describe how the system works. normally the camera is not in my room. if i want to have the hour "free time", i tell my father and he gives me the camera. i switch it on. when the hour is over, i give him back the camera

Vanessa I don't think so.Otherwise my parents would told me what advantages I would have gotten if I agreed.

then i would not agree either, but with me it is something else, i get something in return for wearing the connecting chains

Vanessa

Angelina ah ok now i understand your concerns, i forgot to describe how the system works. normally the camera is not in my room. if i want to have the hour "free time", i tell my father and he gives me the camera. i switch it on. when the hour is over, i give him back the camera

Still not perfect,but better than to have the camera in your room permanently,sure!

Angelina then i would not agree either, but with me it is something else, i get something in return for wearing the connecting chains

But I still think you could have managed to avoid it;even if there could be a risk the rule would not change.My parents take care to differentiate well rules and punishments.When they decided I have to wear thigh bands when staying at home when they're not,after the end of my studies,they have changed the punishment too(as it was "only" wearing thigh bands before),to not have a rule implying almost the same thing than a punishment.

Angelina

Vanessa Still not perfect

perfect would be to be completely free, but not everything can be perfect 🙂

Vanessa if there could be a risk the rule would not change.

well i didn't have many options my father offered me this deal and i could accept or decline but if i had declined i would have got much less breaks from the bra 🙁

Vanessa My parents take care to differentiate well rules and punishments.

we do that too. punishments are always temporary but rules are not.

Only that we allow the same "tools" to be used for both

Ines

Vanessa My parents take care to differentiate well rules and punishments.

Pretty logical.

Vanessa When they decided I have to wear thigh bands when staying at home when they're not,after the end of my studies

I do not endorse forced wearing, but I think this a correct approach, these are moments in which we need wear a totally safe belt. We all fight our belt much more in these circumstances! 😆