I agree with that, but then there's the question of what are you trying to protect and from whom. I managed to open the spare lock after about two hours of fiddling with two paperclips, so I went ahead and after a quick mail I ordered (hopefully) more secure ones from a local chastity-dedicated shop.
About their use: wait, did you just say that a lock was used to lock a ... lock 
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Jonas Yes indeed, I've raised this issue on here before. No-one ever asked me whether it was okay to be attached to demanding and behaviour-altering genitalia! Sexual freedom is simply considered to be correct and normal, despite the fact that it doesn't work out well for some of us.
That sounds dangerously close to a castration fantasy to me, and that is not a thought I would enjoy entertaining. As for considering sexual freedom normal, I think the world is better off with considering sexual autonomy a fundamental right, and consider it absolutely correct that forcing continuous chastity onto an unwilling participant is considered abusive. But just like free expression is a fundamental right in western civilization (especially for our American friends), the right is still managed by appropriateness (i.e. the classic "you can't yell fire in a crowded theatre" rule).
In our current society, the most notable instance of that are public indecency laws, but there are also places in the world with sodomy laws on the books, that restrict what two consenting adults can do with each other behind closed doors. Frankly, I think laws and customs that oppose, say, two men who love each other from sleeping with each other are a way bigger infringement on sexual autonomy than laws or customs mandating chastity devices in certain types of public places could ever be. As for the influence parental or educational authorities might have in a more chastity-oriented world, the older I get the less comfortable I feel about discussing that, but I think that done in moderation, it would not be worse than the homophobia, slut-shaming and similarly things that are sadly common experiences of contemporary youngsters.
Nate I agree with that, but then there's the question of what are you trying to protect and from whom. I managed to open the spare lock after about two hours of fiddling with two paperclips, so I went ahead and after a quick mail I ordered (hopefully) more secure ones from a local chastity-dedicated shop.
That is some dedication in probing for weaknesses. But I doubt you will find significant security upgrades in that form factor, I got a brand-name product from a reputable manufacturer and you see how that turned out. I reckon the only real difference between how easy they open is getting lucky with the pinning/bitting. Again, the depths are really darn close on mine. Pick-resistant locks will be much bulkier.
Nate About their use: wait, did you just say that a lock was used to lock a ... lock
As crazy as it sounds, yeah. This video shows the super-insecure type of door lock for which this style of lock is considered an upgrade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urcPnSBi3I4
Over time, they have been repurposed to secure power switches of dangerous machinery or trailer hitches, until the HolyTrainer company decided to turn that style of lock into the new generation of chastity cage lock. Also note that HolyTrainer-style cages are one of the more secure users of those locks - a lot of cheaper metal cages do not bother with putting a cover over the lock body, Which results in this hilarious little pick job: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uEYveSssok
youdontknowme That sounds dangerously close to a castration fantasy to me, and that is not a thought I would enjoy entertaining
Er, no. And I'm not sure why you decided to try to push my views to such an extreme. I was interested in a discussion about sexual freedoms and social norms. This extreme idea is, I think, way beyond what is appropriate for this forum.
Jonas Oh, do not get me wrong, nothing wrong with your choice of an orgasm-free lifestyle, it was just the wording of that particular message that threw me off, the idea that it is not okay that you are attached to such genitalia. I know you did not mean it that way, it just sounded very wrong to my ears.
Nate do you mind me asking what it was like getting out once a month to take care of things?
I'd kill for that chance! I've tried to negotiate time out but they know precisely what for and won't agree.
I'm now told I can finally get out of this thing the day I get my final year results - assuming they're good!
I'm also surprised that you don't get much fun from the "milking", I get an orgasm-like sensation from it that is sure better than nothing.
At first, when I was locked by my parents, it felt kinda strange ... that your parents say to you something along the lines, "Now you can masturbate, I'll be back in ten minutes and re-lock you.". Of course, I soon got used to it, even for usually having only ten (and sometimes even five) minutes, and that wouldn't be the worst thing.
Going to school locked was probably more scary than actually problematic. My cage is small enough not to be visible under jeans, so the only time the cage was seen was at floorball in lockers (but only because my teammate yanked down my boxer briefs as a prank).
The most annoying thing is, a cage will prevent you from masturbating, not magically deactivate your penis. It's normal to get an erection - in the morning, most notably; and when you see a hot girl/guy (and you'll see a lot of them at school). This will, of course, be a lot more frequent, as you're always horny and subconsciously try to find sex.
About your situation, Chris, one of my floorball teammates (Robin) is also locked. His parents are way more strict, and he was released only at the end of each semester if his grades were good. He told me that he actually preferred this, as orgasming and getting back each month refreshes the orgasm sensation and horniness, and that's what drives you crazy. However, I disagree with him in that.
I may have written that I don't get much fun from milking, but that's very relative. I usually try to compare things to an actual orgasm, and therefore milking is like nothing at all. When you compare it to nothing and staying horny, it's definitely better to milk; you empty your balls and the feeling of constant horniness disappears for a while. When it comes back however, it feels (at least for me) that it's stronger than before.
youdontknowme Ah I see. I did not mean for so much emphasis to be placed onto my word 'attached'. I am more concerned by what rules my (entirely complete) body's behaviour and how socially assumed sexual freedom hasn't been ideal for me personally.
Jonas Glad we are on the same page there. No detachment of body parts, the objectionable thing is the penis being so demanding, not it being part of your body. I mean, we could talk about the pros and cons of (male) circumcision in another topic, I am personally not a big fan, but anything beyond that just seems like a big no-no to me.
But sexual freedom, sexual autonomy, or, as German law calls it, sexual self-determination is not just about being free to have sex, but (maybe even more importantly) about being free to not have sex. The German criminal code has, since 1970, defined crimes like rape, sexual harrassment and pimping as "offences against sexual self-determination" (rather than the "crimes against morality" they were before).
Therefore, I believe your choice to not experience sexual relief, and to seek both social and mechanical help against it, is not a violation of your sexual freedom; on the contrary, it is an exercise of your sexual freedom. In a way, it is not so much a "freedom of sex" as it is a "fredom from sex".
Nate At first, when I was locked by my parents, it felt kinda strange ... that your parents say to you something along the lines, "Now you can masturbate, I'll be back in ten minutes and re-lock you.". Of course, I soon got used to it, even for usually having only ten (and sometimes even five) minutes, and that wouldn't be the worst thing.
Urgh... never gave so much thought to this particular aspect of being locked by your parents, but that seems awkward as hell when you are not used to it. I do not think there is a boy in the world who wants his parents to know when they are masturbating. Heck, even the if is a source of major unease often enough (though I guess that was already a foregone conclusion for you at that point). Not sure if I would have managed to pull off a release the first time if that had been my experience. Then again, if that was after your 5-month punishment, you were probably desperate enough to just go through with it.
Nate The most annoying thing is, a cage will prevent you from masturbating, not magically deactivate your penis. It's normal to get an erection - in the morning, most notably; and when you see a hot girl/guy (and you'll see a lot of them at school). This will, of course, be a lot more frequent, as you're always horny and subconsciously try to find sex.
I reckon that the erection not being as visible as on most other boys who get that response was at least small consolation for that, though probably not enough to make up for the discomfort of an erection and the unfulfilled arousal that comes from seeing someone attractive.
One more question that comes to mind, is Jake aware that you are withholding releases you are authorized to give? Because I am just imagining what happens if he finds this forum and reads about that. I mean, I guess the names are changed, they sound awfully English for Czech names, but all the details you dropped, a boy being locked in chastity by his parents, but with the keys now held by his boyfriend, and in turn being a secondary keyholder to his younger brother whose primary keyholder are still the parents... that is a pretty specific story to have, and would probably still be recognizable to the other people in that story.
Yeah, it actually is awkward as hell. You can learn to ignore it, but it still seems weird when I think about it now.
Of course, getting a release for the first time was on one hand embarrasing, but I managed to orgasm mainly because of the 5 month prior total denial. And to be honest, I managed just about a minute before they came back to re-lock me.
Well, about the erection not being visible ... yeah, but it's just a tiny advantage. The frustration of denied erection is far bigger.
Fortunately, Jake doesn't know that and we agreed with my parents they won't tell him. As for him finding these posts - I find it highly unlikely. He's still so embarrased about wearing a cage, he tries to just forget about it. About the names: they Are the English equivalents (for obvious reasons).
Nate Yeah, it actually is awkward as hell. You can learn to ignore it, but it still seems weird when I think about it now.
I can only imagine. I guess that is one advantage of your boyfriend handling your regular maintenance now.
Nate Of course, getting a release for the first time was on one hand embarrasing, but I managed to orgasm mainly because of the 5 month prior total denial. And to be honest, I managed just about a minute before they came back to re-lock me.
The spirit is unwilling, but the flesh is strong. Quite a different take on the famous bible quote.
Nate Well, about the erection not being visible ... yeah, but it's just a tiny advantage. The frustration of denied erection is far bigger.
I find denied erections fairly managable, but I also got into actually practicing chastity lockups at a much later age. Erections tend to be a lot more out-of-control in your teens, so it must have squeezed a lot.
True, it's much better now that my boyfriend takes care of my cage. However, unlocking and re-locking Jake is still weird.
Erections are manageable, true, but it's very uncomfortable (especially for a grower like me). Since I'm constantly horny, it's hard not to think of it, which makes me even harder in the cage.
Nate However, unlocking and re-locking Jake is still weird.
I would still imagine it is easier to be open about sexual issues with peers in your approximate age range than with someone much older and more in charge like your parents. Though if there is awkwardness in that keyholding relationship, that probably also plays into your decision not to grant him any 'opportunity'.
Nate but it's very uncomfortable (especially for a grower like me). Since I'm constantly horny, it's hard not to think of it, which makes me even harder in the cage.
From my experience as a grower, it is not too bad (but again, I am a few years older than you), but it is distracting. Though I have not gotten hard with both cage and clothes on yet.
Nate The frustration of denied erection is far bigger.
I take your point about concealment being less of an advantage than the disadvantage of frustration. In terms of frustration, I have tried all kinds of belts and cages and overall I think it's easier to cope with a denied early stage erection: A relatively tight cage which keeps the penis curved down enables you to acknowledge the fact that someone is "hot", maybe pointlessly shake the device a bit and then move on with your day. Conversely; Where the chastity device/belt permits an unsatisfiable full scale erection you can end up climbing the walls and going quite insane trying and failing to ejaculate.
Hello, I haven't been writing on this forum for a long time. @Nate So I thought, I'd try to ask a few of my never ending questions. Please forgive me for redundant questions that have already been answered.
Tell us more about the new metal cage.
Looking forward to your answers and a big thank you!
Hey @markules, I haven't been posting here much either. It's not that much interesting what is happening day-to-day.
There are times when I completely forget about it, which is great. In contrast, there are days when I feel crazy horny, just ready to explode, but I just can't. Probably the worst combination is waking up with morning "wood", getting a little teased by my boyfriend and then having to sit in school all day.
Actually, both of them have their advantages. The plastic one is great for cleaning since you can see through. Also, it's less noticeable as there's no unnatural colour. The metal cage adds a sense of security, and its weight is a constant reminder of the chastity cage down your boxer briefs.
We're keeping it as a spare if something is wrong with the metal.
Yeah, not only tried; he's wearing the metal cage now. However, I must admit that I probably convinced him to agree with the metal cage but he doesn't really like it (particularly because of the feeling in his underwear).
Not really, but that's good. I like it this way.
Nate
But 3-5 Orgasm is good for teenage guys, ok maybe 5 is little over the top :-)
But 3 orgasm per day is perfectly ok
But 1-2 orgasm a month sounds like a bad joke for me 
Nate
I do not understand why some people agree to such fucked up things from their parents, you should report it to the police and add a few more things from yourself to arrest them, fellow prisoners have already made sure that they would probably rape their ass with a toilet brush! :-)
hornyaspie2 made sure that they would probably rape their ass with a toilet brush! :-)
please do not use such extreme sentences, you can also express this in a more polite way.
hornyaspie2 I totaly agree!
