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Angelina

Vanessa It plays a part in it,sure.

yes, but of course it should not be the main reason, more as a bonus 😉

Vanessa

Angelina

I agree.

We should not marry only to be free of the chastity belt.

Angelina

Vanessa We should not marry only to be free of the chastity belt.

right, i think otherwise you probably would have done it already too

Vanessa

Angelina

Of course!😉

Angelina

Vanessa

Me too 😉

Liana

Angelina i think that will certainly happen, i plan to study until i am 23, so plenty of time to get married

On the other hand its absolutely normal if your father tells you that you have to finish your studies first and then get married
Personally i think its not right to get married while you study

Angelina

Liana On the other hand its absolutely normal if your father tells you that you have to finish your studies first and then get married

why should he? besides, i am of age and so will camryn once she is 18. he can't stop us from getting married even if he wanted to and that was always the condition that i don't have to wear the belt anymore without any consequences.

Liana

Angelina why should he? besides, i am of age and so will camryn once she is 18. he can't stop us from getting married even if he wanted to and that was always the condition that i don't have to wear the belt anymore without any consequences.

Its not only the age.. there are many other factors..having a job for example and being generally ready to get married..
For example being unbelted and married before you finish your studies will distract you 100% from your studies..
Its not all about sex and not wearing the belt..
There more important things in life i guess and for sure before you get married you should be ready not only for sex..

Joh

Liana For example being unbelted and married before you finish your studies will distract you 100% from your studies..

Sorry, but this is unlikely for @Angelina, as I see it from her postings. She has very clear ideas, goal and is disciplined.
And sex is not the main thing she has in mind why she want to married.

Avery

Liana For example being unbelted and married before you finish your studies will distract you 100% from your studies..

Where I am for many people getting married is the only thing that allows people to continue their studies past the first four years because of the money situation. Best example is people in medical school, four years of that then intern and residency. One partner will work to pay the bills while the other studies and learns how to practice their trade.

Angelina

Liana

these are things that i don't want to let stand.

i love my girlfriend and i would probably marry her without a belt when she is 18. either i have had many long conversations with her and we are both 100% ready to take this step.

i doubt that it will distract me from my studies. at least i don't have to worry about dating etc. during my studies. since i will first work with my father and then take over his company, there is also no professional risk.

Vanessa

Avery because of the money situation

Don't happen if the parents help to pay for the studies.

Liana

Angelina
You know better 🙂
But in case that you ll not get married when you want to.. theoretically something happens and it changes..
Your father would keep you belted until you get married even if this will happen some years later?

Avery

Vanessa Don't happen if the parents help to pay for the studies.

That's true but I was talking specifically about people who continue studies past the first four years. Perhaps things differ from country to country but in the US, where I am, it can be very expensive. I have five siblings. My parents cannot even dream about paying to educate all of us.

Max9

Avery here you can study for free, so people study as long as they wamt or need.

Angelina

Avery Perhaps things differ from country to country but in the US, where I am, it can be very expensive.

that's why we abolished the regular tuition fees a few years ago to make it possible for everyone who can do the necessary work. i pay "only" a small fee of 330€ (370$) per semester.

Max9 here you can study for free,

not complete and only at state universities

Max9 When education costs money you will probably put more effort in studying.

i agree with you, that's why i would never have abolished tuition fees completely, but staggered them according to the wealth/income of the parents.

Max9 We always put it after the amount... idk why you put it before it... because I mean you say "50 dollar" and not "I have dollar 50"

I think in the USA the doller symbol is put in front of the amount, but I'll have to ask my girlfriend again.

Avery

Max9 here you can study for free, so people study as long as they wamt or need.

We've had politicians who have proposed that, Hilary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, but they lose. At least for president.

Joh

Max9 here you can study for free

This is not correct. You have to pay some amount but it is no fee for the university.
I also heard they had introduced a fee for very long time studying, but I am not sure.

Avery I notice you put the € sign after the amount.

There are historical reasons for this. In the past, DM was placed after the amount, but today it is correct before it. But a lot of people don't do it.

Max9

Avery it has its upsides and its downsides.The downside is that it's expensive and many people from poor families are thus robbed the chance to do so. The upside is that the costs make it valuable. We associate the price with value. The more exöensive a product is, the higher are our expectatipns from it and the more do we care about it. A 2€ T-Shirt is good for painting, a 50€ shirt is being taken more care of, even though the quality is the same here and there's just a brand logo printed on it ...
When education costs money you will probably put more effort in studying.

Avery

Max9 When education costs money you will probably put more effort in studying.

Here it's a key to a higher paying job. That's a good incentive too.

Max9 A 2€ T-Shirt is good for painting, a 50€ shirt is being taken more care of

I notice you put the € sign after the amount. I've been putting it before when I convert amounts for my European friends because we put the $ ahead of amounts here.

Max9

Avery I notice you put the € sign after the amount.

We always put it after the amount... idk why you put it before it... because I mean you say "50 dollar" and not "I have dollar 50"

youdontknowme

Joh This is not correct. You have to pay some amount but it is no fee for the university.

There were some nominal tuition fees once (_€500 per semester), but most states waved those, at least for EU citizens, years ago. There is often a mandatory fee for the student council work and such things, which may also include a public transport ticket. The fee may be reduced or waived in cases of financial hardship. Also, you still have to pay for food, accomodation, and similar non-academic fees, none of that is taken care of for you.

There are no special fees for long-term students in most states, but if you exceed the scheduled duration for your degree, there will be no more federal aid.

Avery

Max9 We always put it after the amount... idk why you put it before it... because I mean you say "50 dollar" and not "I have dollar 50"

It gets more complicated. E.g. I have read that in Europe the price for gasoline (petrol in the UK) would be written like: 1,299 €/L whereas in the US it would be $1.29 9/10 using a . instead of a , and the $ ahead of the price. Americans would be confused by writing the cents 299, they would be used to 29 9/10 which they would say as "twenty nine nine".

Watching a youtube film about an American gymnast going to Berlin I was interested seeing the different electric light on/off switches, wall plugs and door handles, wood floors, free-standing closets and an absolutely marvelous clear glass shower enclosure. Also in the subway or tube tunnel a sign to not feed the pigeons, with a little bird about to pick up a seed covered by the international not sign.

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