Thighbands

youdontknowme

Angelina The V-shape would be without the chains in the middle going from one band to the other. Just from the band to the belt. Which would mean next to no leverage for keeping your legs together; if you can sit down with them at all, you can also do ballet splits while otherwise standing. Assuming you can do splits, of course.

Meanwhile, the triangle shape has chains slipping through rings, which seems like it might be a problem of its own, though probably it only matters on the first step after getting up.

Angelina

youdontknowme

carg

ok, still confused. we'll try it another way. i found a picture on mysteel that shows roughly how my thighbands are attached. the chain is firmly welded to the bands on mine, but an extra padlock is needed for the crotch shield. now you can decide for yourselves which letter you recognise. 😂
https://www.my-steel.de/mediafiles/Bilder/News%20und%20FAQs/Schenkelb%C3%A4nder%20am%20Keuschheitsg%C3%BCrtel%20befestigen%20-%20was%20wird%20ben%C3%B6tigt/thighbands-connect-to-chastitybelt-2.jpg

Roland

i think that would be the point at which i would finally rebel 😉

Joh

i think it's more like the triangle now, but i'm not going to make a science out of it and measure my legs with a triangle, sorry i'm out of it at this point, but you might be able to tell from the picture.

carg

Angelina i'm not quite sure i understand what the differences are

I think @youdontknowme already did a good job explaining, but perhaps this also helps: with the triangle, both ends of the chain are connected with the same padlock. With an inverted V, the chain ends would be connected to different thighbands, so that would take 2 padlocks (unless the chain is permanently connected to one or both bands). Another disadvantage of that configuration, since the padlocks might clash into each other while walking?

Joh

The get my head around I hat a look at the tree different chain solutions.

I have studied the three variants, V, triangle and T, graphically. For this purpose, I made the following assumptions.
Pivot point of the leg is symmetrically displaced right and left and above the crotch.
The leg bone is perpendicular under the pivot point.
Thigh bands are two-thirds of the thigh length below the crotch.
The attachment point on the thigh band is vertically below the crotch when standing.
When she sits the legs are horizontal.

The distance between cotch and thigh band when sitting and legs closed is the relevant size L.
To make it independent of the size I have determined the opening angle of a leg. I.e. how far it can spread the leg to the side measured to the vertical line below the D-ring depended on L.
V: 69°
Triangle: 28°
T: 28°

It is clear to see @carg is right. The V restrict less. T and triangle have no difference in the result. The difference between triangle and T is that with T the chain is a little shorter.

Roland

At tollyboy you can see a connection made of movable rods. No chains, no padlocks, very restrictive.
https://tollyboy.com/business/languages/picture.php?lang=english&photo=../images/gallery/0099.jpg

youdontknowme

The T and V are just edge cases of a general Y case. The triangle is fundamentally different because it relies on slipping chains to vary the amount of leg spread depending on sitting angle.

Joh

youdontknowme Yes, it does but as far as I see it makes no difference in the movement. I also ha a look at at which angle you can lift one leg e.g to climb stairs. One time for two-third position of the thigh bands and the other at half. At the half position around 45° and at two-third 37°.

Vanessa

Jen

Yes,don't worry,I can understand you.

Angelina it also looks strange when i walk very slowly with a stressed facial expression 😉

Sure!😉

Joh

I would like to ask @Foxies @Mary @Angelina @Sara2001 @Ines @Amira and all other who wears regulary or from time to time thigh bands how their chain is connected to the belt:
inverted V: from one thigh band to D-ring to other thigh band
triangle: from one thigh band to D-ring to other thigh band and back to the opposite thigh band
T from one thigh band to the other thigh band and an additional chain from D-ring to the centre of the connection-chain.

If you spread your legs is it similar to my calculation?
And if you lift one leg would be nice to know as well which angle you can archive.

Maija

Joh T from one thigh band to the other thigh band and an additional chain from D-ring to the centre of the connection-chain.

This one for me (although I wasn't asked 😛)

Joh

Maija This one for me (although I wasn't asked 😛)

Thank you and you were asked but not by name

Joh and all other who wears regulary or from time to time thigh bands

Could you also check if my calculation match with your situation, please.

carg

Angelina ok, still confused.

Well. we've tried. From your description and the image, I assume that there is a chain running from each of the thighbands to the crotch, in which case I'd say that is the triangle (or the O as I called it before).
I hadn't realized that your chains were welded - that means that your father has no option to make it shorter or longer then, only to directly padlock the D-rings. But then I don't understand why your legs are pulled together when you sit down.

I understand that this has taken long enough, and you are tired of it, so I don't expect an answer; just couldn't resist writing my latest thoughts.

Maija T from one thigh band to the other thigh band and an additional chain from D-ring to the centre of the connection-chain.

This one for me

Interesting. I don't think I have seen that configuration offered as a standard item from the major belt manufacturers, but I'm sure they will do custom work too. I assume that configuration requires 3 locks, one to connect to each thighband, and one to the crotch. And if it were 2 separate chains, allowing the choice to not connect to the crotch, another one to connect the two chains. You mentioned somewhere most of your locks are integrated ones, I assume these, that would be better than having two padlocks on the inside of your thighs, but I'm not sure if those can also be used to connect chains to.
The picture is really small, but if it is just two pins that you stick in the holes of the lock, wouldn't it be relatively easy to create your own key with e.g. the tines of a fork?

Joh

Angelina i think it's more like the triangle now, but i'm not going to make a science out of it and measure my legs with a triangle, sorry i'm out of it at this point, but you might be able to tell from the picture.

This not necessary. I would like only to know if you spread your legs the angel between them is similar to my calculation. Or when you lift one thigh which angel this thigh can archive. E.g 20° 30° or 45°measured to vertical,
The only additional information is where the thigh bands are located. Length of thigh I defined between your crotch and your knee. Half way or 2/3 from top.

Angelina

carg I understand that this has taken long enough, and you are tired of it, so I don't expect an answer; just couldn't resist writing my latest thoughts.

no problem, but for me this is too theoretical. yes my chain is welded tightly, only the crotch plate is padlocked. my legs are pulled together because the chain becomes tight when i sit. i hope i could explain this a little.

Joh Or when you lift one thigh which angel this thigh can archive. E.g 20° 30° or 45°measured to vertical,

do you think what angle i can get when i try to push one leg up and then between the upper and lower thighs? if not, would you mind asking me that in german, i don't think i understand it otherwise?

Joh

carg But then I don't understand why your legs are pulled together when you sit down.

It works if the chain from crotch to the thigh band has the right length as is needed when you sit. The distance between the crotch and the thigh band is shorter when you stand as when you sit. If you sit you get a triangle where first side is from hip joint to the crotch. The second side is from crotch to thigh band and the third is from thigh band to the hip joint.
The additional chain between the thigh bands restrict how far you can spread your legs. Without it can be around 140° between the legs.

Joh

Angelina do you think what angle i can get when i try to push one leg up and then between the upper and lower thighs?

Nearly.
If you stand on your left leg and lift up, not spread, your right leg which angle can you reach? The angle between your left and right thighs when you look from the side. The best is if you stand sidewise to a mirror.

Angelina

Joh

I don't give any guarantee because I didn't measure exactly, but I would say about 45 degrees, but without any guarantee because I don't know if I did it right.

Joh

i think you expressed it well, thank you for the help, sometimes my english is not enough 😂

Joh

Angelina I don't give any guarantee because I didn't measure exactly, but I would say about 45 degrees, but without any guarantee because I don't know if I did it right.

Where do you wear your thigh bands? Half or 2/3 from your crotch?
If it half it looks like my calculation is right 😀

Angelina

Joh Where do you wear your thigh bands? Half or 2/3 from your crotch?
If it half it looks like my calculation is right 😀

about the middle of the thighs, i think that fits with your calculation 😉

Joh

Angelina Yes, it looks like.
Now I can do some optimisation to see which design works well with less restriction for the movement of the wearer.

Maija

Joh that could be something 🙂

I came very close today to accidentally revealing my bands at the bus, my skirt got caught in the seat... very embarrassing 😅

Angelina

Joh

that sounds good, i am curious if you have something before i get married 😉

Maija I came very close today to accidentally revealing my bands at the bus, my skirt got caught in the seat... very embarrassing 😅

you were lucky. next time you should wear a longer skirt. 😉

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