Thighbands

Angelina

carg Am I confused or do you mean your 19th birthday?

Joh I am as well. I though you are already 18th.

Maija At least @Angelina 's profile says so

yes, i made a mistake, sorry. i am 18 and will be 19 next july 😂

carg And for engagement you want to wait until Camryn is also 18?

well, we want to get married when camryn is 18. the engagement is not legally binding so that can be sooner. 🙂

Vanessa

Angelina it's good to have a perspective. 🙂

And a more precise one than "when you get married".

Angelina yes, i made a mistake, sorry. i am 18 and will be 19 next july 😂

Any chance there is big changes on these rules?

Angelina

Vanessa And a more precise one than "when you get married".

yes exactly, i think we will get engaged around next summer 🙂

Vanessa Any chance there is big changes on these rules?

i don't know yet. there are still 8 months - a lot of time in which a lot can happen.

Vanessa

Angelina we will get engaged around next summer 🙂

Good!🙂

Would you propose her,or would she propose you?

Angelina i don't know yet. there are still 8 months - a lot of time in which a lot can happen.

Do you discuss a bit with your father between two talks about the rules,to try to convince him a bit during the year,and make changing the rules easier?

Angelina

Vanessa Would you propose her,or would she propose you?

Let's see who's faster, but if so then also really romantic 😉

Vanessa Do you discuss a bit with your father between two talks about the rules,to try to convince him a bit during the year,and make changing the rules easier?

of course, we discuss very often, but he usually doesn't say in which direction changes will go, mostly he just wants me to talk and then he often shows understanding (even if nothing changes).

Vanessa

Angelina he usually doesn't say in which direction changes will go, mostly he just wants me to talk and then he often shows understanding (even if nothing changes).

Good,even if there is no change soon,he can think about it a bit until the next talk,and,if you managed it well,he may be more ready to make less strict rules.

Angelina

Vanessa Good,even if there is no change soon,he can think about it a bit until the next talk,and,if you managed it well,he may be more ready to make less strict rules.

right, that's exactly what he wants, to hear my experiences in order to gain insights for the next rule changes.

carg

may i disagree? you are right in what you write, but that is not my father's reason. it is about something very simple. when i am engaged, i make a promise to camryn to go into this marriage, my father wants me to go into the marriage as a virgin. there is no real conflict any more through my promise, because i virtually admit that i share this goal. and no i don't know how else to explain it. 😂

carg

Angelina my father recently made the suggestion that i probably won't have to wear the thighbands and bra once i'm engaged, but he expects us to start wedding preparations promptly.

Sorry for the late reaction; I seem to have forgotten to react to this earlier.
It sounds strange to me that your father seems to try to stimulate you to get married as soon as possible: he must realize that by suggesting something like that, you will be tempted to get engaged as soon as you can, and then also 'rush' towards marriage.
I find that surprising because I got the impression your father liked having you around (or at least is afraid to lose you), and once you marry you'll move out. And if I were a parent, I would find it more important that a wedding would only happen if both are really feeling they are ready, so I would never do anything to rush that.

cham-ed

carg I agree whole heartedly

Vanessa

Angelina , to hear my experiences in order to gain insights for the next rule changes.

And so,you can tell him you feel the rules a bit worse than you truly feel about these rules,to try to get less strict ones!😉

carg

Angelina that is not my father's reason.

No, of course it is not the reason. But it is a side effect, and my point is that he should have considered that.

Angelina

Vanessa And so,you can tell him you feel the rules a bit worse than you truly feel about these rules,to try to get less strict ones!😉

if i play my cards right, i'm sure i can do it. there's always a bit of tactics involved. 😉

carg and my point is that he should have considered that.

i think he did, he is too intelligent not to consider it, but he considered it rather secondary

Vanessa

Angelina there's always a bit of tactics involved. 😉

Sure.

Good you can manage to get your rules a bit less strict this way.🙂

Maija I also feel kind of bad for her, because I found her crying in her bedroom in the evening 🥺

Sorry for her...

But it is not unusual;I still cry due to my belt...

You never cry due to your chastity devices?

Angelina does that mean that she should wear it 24/7 at some point?

As it is the case for @Maija, probably

Maija

I have some news: today also my sister got her thighbands. For her it might be a bit more difficult to accept than for me, since she has always been more active physically. Initially, it will be just from dinner to morning until she has adjusted. I had to teach her a lot of stuff 🤣 (stairs, toilet, etc).

I also feel kind of bad for her, because I found her crying in her bedroom in the evening 🥺

Joh

Maija I also feel kind of bad for her, because I found her crying in her bedroom in the evening

Your father should think about what he is doing to you and especially to your sister. He can see it well in her crying at night. I think she didn't want to have them and so it's just abuse.

Sara2001

Maija I also feel kind of bad for her, because I found her crying in her bedroom in the evening

Sorry, I haven't followed this topic completely. How open is your sister to her belt and anything? I can understand very well that it is extremely difficult for her at the beginning. When it was introduced to me and my sister, it was very hard for us, especially when we had to wear them during the day, too and not only from dinner to the next morning.

Angelina

Maija

sorry about your sister 🙁

what does that mean in the beginning? does that mean that she should wear it 24/7 at some point? and why? i mean you got the thighbands because you tried to cheat on the belt, was it similar with her?

Rina Maybe my view about family is because of a fact that my parents pushed me near suicide due to my gender identity, I guess.

that is something completely different. i find it absolutely unacceptable to treat someone so badly because of their gender identity, especially if it is your own child, but nevertheless i would ask you to be a bit cautious with the accusations. what you have experienced is a completely different level than our "problems".

Rina

Joh I agree. In fact, I don't really get it the concept of parents putting children chastity equipment. It's just something with me, I just believe unless it's BDSM related, wearer-keyholder relationship should be between equal relationship, maybe it's because my interest in chastity equipment is a lot different with other wearers here (dealing with dysphoria / devotion to my partner). I would actually recommend her sister to gather up evidences and at any time. Assuming her sister is minor (Maybe not but still it would fall under sexual abuse or any crimes that are dealt seriously), it would make her father (or even mother for knowingly not reporting it depending on case) at least serve a part of his life in prison. Reporting in future may work too, seeing many #metoo cases that made many sex offenders' mischief being revealed.

Joh

Rina
This would be good if she would do it but I see they value the peace of the family more than their own rights. As long as is the case they will not do it.

Rina

Joh Maybe my view about family is because of a fact that my parents pushed me near suicide due to my gender identity, I guess.

Jen

Rina you're amazing 👏. I'm glad you're still with us!

Rina

Jen I’m grateful that I have partner who respects my gender identity, and truly loving and caring. That keeps me alive.

Joh

Rina
Good you had partner on your side and to support you. This was a big development step, congratulation. I hope you will be here for longer.

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