Keyholder welcome thread.

Suzanne

Jonas
All three wear a Carrara belt.
The goal is to prevent uncontrolled masturbation.
Yes it gives a submissive effect, although that is not the intention.
2) Don't complain, but bear it. He accepted it, so the complaining era is over.

Jonas

Suzanne All three wear a Carrara belt.

That's a strong, highly adjustable, belt design so I'd expect the security to be very good. Poor guys! Lol.

The goal is to prevent uncontrolled masturbation.

Suzanne the prevention of self-gratification.

Yes, this is key. Your mother clearly knew what she was talking about.

Yes it gives a submissive effect, although that is not the intention.

Yeah, I guess an imbalance comes along with being the gatekeeper of one of someone else's primary drives/pleasures. Big responsibility though.

2) Don't complain, but bear it. He accepted it, so the complaining era is over.

For me too I think. I'd missed Jack's post first time around. Now I've seen it, I will put a stop to my own complaining. I have an equal relationship with my wife, but that doesn't mean that she doesn't deserve the absolute best out of me.

Jack has walked the same path.

If I may, can I ask how the men in your family have taken to their chastity? Eg: Do they fight their belts? Did they all move from cage to full belt without a fuss? How long did it take them to reach acceptance?

Thanks.

Suzanne

Jonas
Yes these chastity belts are very secure.
All three have switched from chastity cage to chastity belt, a chastity belt is more secure and more pleasant to wear.
I can only speak for my brother and Jack, it was never a fight.
In the beginning, both had to get used to the idea of chastity and of course they had to get used to wearing a chastity cage. Especially in the beginning, I noticed that Jack really missed self-gratification, a sign to me that the Chastity Cage was not superfluous. The transition from chastity cage to chastity belt took half a year, not that Jack doesn't suffer from ups and downs.
Luckily I had tremendous support from my mother and of course the experiences I gained with my brother.

Jonas

Suzanne Yes these chastity belts are very secure.
All three have switched from chastity cage to chastity belt, a chastity belt is more secure and more pleasant to wear.

Yes and high security encourages acceptance. I'd have thought the transition from cage to belt would have been a bigger deal though. A full belt can be quite intense.

I can only speak for my brother and Jack, it was never a fight.

I understand that chastity is a fundamental part of the relationships, so there can be no fight there. I was thinking more about whether the men have been "caught" fighting the belts? Far from being superfluous, I'd imagine the belts are preventing self-gratification 24/7.

Luckily I had tremendous support from my mother and of course the experiences I gained with my brother.

When you have another moment, can I ask what advice and support your mother gave?

Laura

Suzanne Grandma was way ahead of her time, you could say. No idea how she did that exactly, then chastity belts / chastity cages for men and women were not common.

Female chastity belts have longer history. I'm not sure when male chastity devices were introduced. I guess not earlier than in 80s

Philip

Laura tollyboy have been making belts from the mid 50's

Laura

Philip Yes, but female belts only

Philip

Laura I have seen male belts that I have been told were made in the 50's

Jonas

I think the idea of a male belt has been around a lot longer but the implementation as anything other than a novelty or curio had to wait. The original male Tollys were more like conversions: the female design with an additional tube. Development of male belts took off in the 2000s onwards with Goethals and Neosteel and MySteel.

Andrew

Suzanne My mother taught/raised me about male chastity at a young age. It has nothing to do with any kink. But more the prevention of self-gratification. I went through the first phase of wearing a chastity cage with my brother,

A fascinating story. I have never encountered a similar case. At what age did your brother start wearing a cage/belt? How old were you when you learned the concept of male chastity?

Ines

Makos are the fastest sharks in the World.

Jonas

Ines Makos are the fastest sharks in the World.

Not again.

Ines

Jonas

It does not depend on me. It is not in my hands!

Jonas

Ines It does not depend on me. It is not in my hands!

How you approach moderation is your choice Ines. Whether I talk here is my choice.

Jonas

Jonas How you approach moderation is your choice Ines. Whether I talk here is my choice.

@Ines, By leaving I can ensure that discussions I'm involved in are never, ever, met with patronising "animal facts" again.

To help me make my decision I'd like to ask you whether you believe this conversation was trolling, or whether you considered the subject off-topic for you personally or for the forum as a whole? What was your reasoning?

Joh

Suzanne At wich age did your brother wear a cages and could he refuse?

Angelina

Suzanne

that is really very interesting, i really wonder what values are behind it? it is already strange in times of emancipation when women wear a belt, with men the whole thing is even stranger

Ines

Jonas

Please, @Jonas , nothing related to you, even remotely.
You are one of the better users here. Please, I am sorry if you took offence, please forgive me.

Jonas

Ines Please, @Jonas , nothing related to you, even remotely.
You are one of the better users here. Please, I am sorry if you took offence, please forgive me.

Thank you for saying it, but this isn't the first time a convo I've been involved in here has been shut down in this way.

I was really enjoying hearing about a FLR and greatly appreciated the answers I was receiving. There are plenty of people on here whose stories I doubt, but this story seemed insightful to me.

I am concerned that it was the content that provoked the animal facts. The idea that for you, any form of male submission is "out of sight". I respect your view completely but I really don't share your opinion. I believe that we all have to submit on times or risk becoming less than we could be.

And, ofc, sometimes we have to stand up for ourselves, which is what I feel I am doing right now.

Ines

Jonas I've been involved in here has been shut down in this way.

Well, I think that it happens to majority of users, Jonas. I think that the only difference is that male discussions are less, but you know that I have to be watching every conversation.
My intention is not shut down you, sorry.

Jonas I am concerned that it was the content that provoked the animal facts. The idea that for you, any form of male submission is "out of sight".

It is the background of the story, not if it is about girls of boys, you know that I make the same with that kind of stories when they are about girls.

Jonas

Ines Jonas I've been involved in here has been shut down in this way.

Well, I think that it happens to majority of users, Jonas. I think that the only difference is that male discussions are less, but you know that I have to be watching every conversation.
My intention is not shut down you, sorry.

Jonas I am concerned that it was the content that provoked the animal facts. The idea that for you, any form of male submission is "out of sight".

It is the background of the story, not if it is about girls of boys, you know that I make the same with that kind of stories when they are about girls.

Thank you very much for making all this clear @Ines. I do appreciate the work you do as a moderator. I understand that I too am not above being moderated when off topic. I just can't understand your reasoning from the animal facts alone.

Would be okay to wait and see if this discussion continues and becomes more understandable, or do you want it to end?

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