Keyholder welcome thread.

Laura

Philip Yes, but female belts only

Philip

Laura I have seen male belts that I have been told were made in the 50's

Jonas

I think the idea of a male belt has been around a lot longer but the implementation as anything other than a novelty or curio had to wait. The original male Tollys were more like conversions: the female design with an additional tube. Development of male belts took off in the 2000s onwards with Goethals and Neosteel and MySteel.

Andrew

Suzanne My mother taught/raised me about male chastity at a young age. It has nothing to do with any kink. But more the prevention of self-gratification. I went through the first phase of wearing a chastity cage with my brother,

A fascinating story. I have never encountered a similar case. At what age did your brother start wearing a cage/belt? How old were you when you learned the concept of male chastity?

Ines

Makos are the fastest sharks in the World.

Jonas

Ines Makos are the fastest sharks in the World.

Not again.

Ines

Jonas

It does not depend on me. It is not in my hands!

Jonas

Ines It does not depend on me. It is not in my hands!

How you approach moderation is your choice Ines. Whether I talk here is my choice.

Jonas

Jonas How you approach moderation is your choice Ines. Whether I talk here is my choice.

@Ines, By leaving I can ensure that discussions I'm involved in are never, ever, met with patronising "animal facts" again.

To help me make my decision I'd like to ask you whether you believe this conversation was trolling, or whether you considered the subject off-topic for you personally or for the forum as a whole? What was your reasoning?

Joh

Suzanne At wich age did your brother wear a cages and could he refuse?

Angelina

Suzanne

that is really very interesting, i really wonder what values are behind it? it is already strange in times of emancipation when women wear a belt, with men the whole thing is even stranger

Ines

Jonas

Please, @Jonas , nothing related to you, even remotely.
You are one of the better users here. Please, I am sorry if you took offence, please forgive me.

Jonas

Ines Please, @Jonas , nothing related to you, even remotely.
You are one of the better users here. Please, I am sorry if you took offence, please forgive me.

Thank you for saying it, but this isn't the first time a convo I've been involved in here has been shut down in this way.

I was really enjoying hearing about a FLR and greatly appreciated the answers I was receiving. There are plenty of people on here whose stories I doubt, but this story seemed insightful to me.

I am concerned that it was the content that provoked the animal facts. The idea that for you, any form of male submission is "out of sight". I respect your view completely but I really don't share your opinion. I believe that we all have to submit on times or risk becoming less than we could be.

And, ofc, sometimes we have to stand up for ourselves, which is what I feel I am doing right now.

Ines

Jonas I've been involved in here has been shut down in this way.

Well, I think that it happens to majority of users, Jonas. I think that the only difference is that male discussions are less, but you know that I have to be watching every conversation.
My intention is not shut down you, sorry.

Jonas I am concerned that it was the content that provoked the animal facts. The idea that for you, any form of male submission is "out of sight".

It is the background of the story, not if it is about girls of boys, you know that I make the same with that kind of stories when they are about girls.

Jonas

Ines Jonas I've been involved in here has been shut down in this way.

Well, I think that it happens to majority of users, Jonas. I think that the only difference is that male discussions are less, but you know that I have to be watching every conversation.
My intention is not shut down you, sorry.

Jonas I am concerned that it was the content that provoked the animal facts. The idea that for you, any form of male submission is "out of sight".

It is the background of the story, not if it is about girls of boys, you know that I make the same with that kind of stories when they are about girls.

Thank you very much for making all this clear @Ines. I do appreciate the work you do as a moderator. I understand that I too am not above being moderated when off topic. I just can't understand your reasoning from the animal facts alone.

Would be okay to wait and see if this discussion continues and becomes more understandable, or do you want it to end?

Andrew

Jonas Would be okay to wait and see if this discussion continues and becomes more understandable, or do you want it to end?

I suggest waiting for @Suzanne's answers to the questions asked her.

Jonas

Andrew Up to mod to decide.

Ines

Jonas

Yes, yes, of course. I promise do not disturb more! 😊

Jonas

Ines And I'll try hard to be less sensitive!! 😊

Jonas

Suzanne with us, with the exception that not the men in the relationships are keyholders, but the women. Something that feels good to me, but I can imagine that many men and women on the forum have a different opinion. So be it.

Yours is an unusual situation for the forum and clearly not what we're used to discussing, but if you want to speak further, please do so.
I was asking what advice and support your mother gave you; Laura was I think wondering where early belts came from; Angelina was asking about your family's values and Andrew asked what age you and your brother were when you learned about male chastity.

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