Guaranteed virginity until marriage

Jonas

Vanessa I think so,too,and she can be way less cooperative about wearing it.Depending on her personality,and possibility to earn some money to pay for her studies,it may end in not accepting to wear it at all.

I think @HHelen sounds confident that she could make it happen, the issue is ensuring that the belt/resentment doesn't come between them.

Angelina

Vanessa But everyone may not have the same definition!😉

anyone who wants to discuss with me must know my definitions , i do not allow any discussion about my definitions 🤣

Vanessa As long as the rules have changed after she accepted it(and especially if she doesn't willingly agree with these changes),no,it isn't.

correct, the rules must be accepted beforehand

Jonas I think @HHelen sounds confident that she could make it happen

I don't think she has quite understood that it is much more difficult to convince her daughter to wear a chastity belt than an abstinence belt.

HHelen

Angelina how often do you imagine? once a week, every 2 weeks, once a month, every 2 months ?

Vanessa How often do you plan to allow it,after she's a student?

Depending on her results.

Vanessa Yes,but they never thought it was necessary for making me study better.

So, they "just" wanted to prevent masturbation. Suddenly. Something is missing in your story.

Vanessa it can even make her a better student if she can relieve her urges and relax a bit this way before reviewing the lessons)

Like a reward?

Vanessa Would she be punished if she ask for it once every day?

No.

Vanessa Wasn't it because she date someone?

I just had to speed it up.

Jonas I think @HHelen sounds confident that she could make it happen

No doubts.

Vanessa

Jonas

And I think there is a big risk she damages their relationship.

Angelina correct, the rules must be accepted beforehand

Or,as @Jonas as said in another topic,it should be accepted again,with the new rules.If not accepted,the old rules still applies.

Angelina I don't think she has quite understood that it is much more difficult to convince her daughter to wear a chastity belt than an abstinence belt.

I think so,too.

Jonas

I doubt @HHelen's daughter would be happy after this change in the rules...

HHelen Depending on her results.

So,if she's a good student,she would be allowed often enough?But still less than presently?

HHelen So, they "just" wanted to prevent masturbation. Suddenly. Something is missing in your story.

I've already explained it before,but I summarize a bit.It was at first used for punishment,then for preventing it instead.It was always totally forbidden for me to masturbate or have sex,and if caught,I was punished.But they probably tolerated it a bit to accept I know my body,while being sure that the fact it is forbidden,and severely punished,limit it.When they decided to put it on me permanently,I knew very well my body,was going to finish my License(and studying for a Master is harder),was caught to date a man I was not allowed to(using weed,bad looking...),and forced to break-up with him(so single),and it was clear I was more sexually active since I've started university(disobeying these rules more often).There is some guess for my part,however,as I haven't discussed much about it with my parents(I don't like to discuss such topics with them).

HHelen Like a reward?

As a possibility she has,no matter her grades/behavior(as it would be useful for making her a better student,in my opinion).But using it as a reward would be better than nothing.

HHelen No.

Good.

HHelen I just had to speed it up.

So,even if single,she would have to wear one during her studies at university?

Angelina Then you should discuss it with your daughter beforehand.

I agree.

Angelina if her daughter writes here.

It would be easier to understand and discus,sure.

Angelina if i don't have that feeling.

Similar for me!

Angelina

For now,the positive aspects are clearly less important than the negative ones,I think...

Jonas

Angelina I don't think she has quite understood that it is much more difficult to convince her daughter to wear a chastity belt than an abstinence belt.

Helen sounds to me like she gets what she wants, but as always, when all is said and done I just want wearers to be happy with their belts. This is going to require extra effort, because I agree, the difference between full chastity and mere abstinence is huge.

Angelina

Jonas

I think it also depends on the character of her daughter, if she doesn't rebel, she can of course get away with anything.

HHelen Depending on her results.

Then you should discuss it with your daughter beforehand.

Jonas

Angelina I think it also depends on the character of her daughter, if she doesn't rebel, she can of course get away with anything.

True, but the daughter could also be of a character that chooses to respect her mother's authority and experience when it comes to sexual matters. It's impossible really to guess. She would need to post here and tell us her mind.

Angelina

Jonas It's impossible really to guess. She would need to post here and tell us her mind.

i know, that's why i try to present it as an assumption, because it's impossible to know. and yes i would also be happy if her daughter writes here.

Jonas

Angelina You know; I just want everyone to be happy, @Angelina. I know chastity can be a good thing, despite the frustration, inconvenience etc. And I want a positive experience for everyone who tries it.

Angelina

Jonas

of course, i agree with you. i think if applied correctly, chastity can be a positive thing, even if i don't have that feeling.

Jonas

Angelina I hope you can put all the things you don't like about chastity on one side of the table and really have a good look at the positives on the other side. 😁

Angelina

Jonas

i would like it to be, then it would probably be much easier. that's why i also like to write here with volunteer wearers, there are new aspects that i might be able to take into account. 🙂

Laura

Vanessa but I summarize a bit.It

Let me summarize more and in one sentence 😂 Your parents learned about chastity belts

Angelina

Vanessa Or,as @Jonas as said in another topic,it should be accepted again,with the new rules.If not accepted,the old rules still applies.

that's what I meant, sorry badly worded

Vanessa For now,the positive aspects are clearly less important than the negative ones,I think...

for me personally yes, but in general it is very interesting

Laura Let me summarize more and in one sentence 😂 Your parents learned about chastity belts

sometimes it sounds as if Vanessa's parents have met you. 🤣

HHelen

Vanessa So,if she's a good student,she would be allowed often enough?But still less than presently?

Maybe even more. I would like to see the results.

Vanessa There is some guess for my part,however,as I haven't discussed much about it with my parents

It's pity, because it would be useful to everyone here.

Vanessa So,even if single,she would have to wear one during her studies at university?

Yes, I always had it in mind.

Laura Your parents learned about chastity belts

I have the same impression. And they would have used it before, to prevent troubles, rather than correct the consequences.

Jonas

Vanessa I doubt @HHelen's daughter would be happy after this change in the rules...

No probably not.

I think cutting down on masturbation bit by bit is much harder on the wearer than stopping it completely from the beginning. (I think this is a belt design issue - the secondary shield should be permanently attached like on @Laura 's Tollyboy).

However, I also think it's one thing to agree to a "no masturbation" rule, but it's a lot more to agree to "you can only masturbate when I allow it" rule. The latter is quite controlling and could well be source of problems.

Vanessa

Laura

🤣

Angelina for me personally yes, but in general it is very interesting

Depend a lot if it is a voluntary wearing or not,I think.

HHelen Maybe even more. I would like to see the results.

So it could be an improvement for her,if she's a very good student;even if;at the start,it would be hard for her to wear the secondary shield during night,too.

You should tell her about his possible improvement,it could be motivating.

HHelen It's pity, because it would be useful to everyone here.

Yes,but I don't feel at ease discussing about it with them.

HHelen they would have used it before, to prevent troubles, rather than correct the consequences.

That is what they finally decide.But I like they have used it as punishment at first,even if it makes the permanent wearing harder to manage.

Jonas the secondary shield should be permanently attached like on @Laura 's Tollyboy

Or My-Steel ones...

Jonas The latter is quite controlling and could well be source of problems.

I agree.But it may be better for the wearer than not masturbating at all,too...Especially if she's supposed to wear it during several years(as it is the case for most of us here).

Angelina even if i would consider masturbation as a drug, i would come out with the same answer, i think also with drugs a slow reduction of the dose could also be better

I think both ways can be effective,and it would depends on each people.

Angelina we should always be careful in this point

I agree.

Jonas

Yes,but some smokers succeed more by reducing how often they smoke slowly.We should choose what is more effective for us;but,for several of us,we've no control about our chastity,and can't choose to reduce masturbation slowly or prevent it completely immediately.

Angelina

HHelen And they would have used it before, to prevent troubles

But the parents did not even know that these "troubles" would arise in the first place.

Angelina

Jonas I think cutting down on masturbation bit by bit is much harder on the wearer than stopping it completely from the beginning.

well, both variants are represented by @Vanessa and me, for example, and we are pretty much in the same situation. it certainly makes a difference but whether better or worse I don't want to judge.

Jonas The latter is quite controlling and could well be source of problems.

right here too i don't know which is better, i think it depends on where the preferences are set and how strong the daughter's character is.

Jonas

Angelina I view masturbation like a drug. So, it's easy for me to say on principle that a chastity belt could be usefully used to put a stop to it. And this is also why I think that going "cold turkey" and quitting completely is a good thing.

I think that controlling the supply of the "drug", Eg: making masturbation a reward for behaviour or studying is something else entirely. It's a huge power to have over someone, especially if they're already used to free access.

I'd be very careful entering into such an agreement.

Angelina

Jonas I view masturbation like a drug. So, it's easy for me to say on principle that a chastity belt could be usefully used to put a stop to it. And this is also why I think that going "cold turkey" and quitting completely is a good thing.

even if i would consider masturbation as a drug, i would come out with the same answer, i think also with drugs a slow reduction of the dose could also be better

Jonas I'd be very careful entering into such an agreement.

we should always be careful in this point

Jonas

Angelina even if i would consider masturbation as a drug, i would come out with the same answer, i think also with drugs a slow reduction of the dose could also be better

When I quit smoking I found that the on again/off again, stop/start of failing to quit was the true torture. Once I knew I could not smoke, I accepted this fact and faced my cravings head on. Applying this to chastity - I do better when I have a belt that more perfectly does its job. I stop fighting it and frustrating myself.

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