Avery i don't think so. In every forum the more the familiarity grows, the more off topic happens
I can understand you are bitter, but we all apologized and take a step back.
You have a wealth of useful information, a very positive approach to chastity that can benefit a lot of people, it's a pity not to share because of a misunderstanding. You should try again in my opinion.

    @Avery

    Milord You have a wealth of useful information, a very positive approach to chastity that can benefit a lot of people, it's a pity not to share because of a misunderstanding. You should try again in my opinion.

    I agree with @Milord and you should continue.

      Milord I can understand you are bitter, but we all apologized and take a step back.

      I don't know how old you are but I think you'll find that in real life you can't just do whatever you want to do, then apologize and then come back at the other person and say well we apologized so what's your problem. Nothing has changed in that thread. The same off-topic shit is still being posted. And it won't change if I try to start again.

        Avery old enough to know that lecturing someone is pretty rude. I’ve deleted the posts as soon as I recognised that they offended you. In a lot of other posts there are off topic, including mine about belting Milady.
        Not everyone are offended for this. And in any case I apologised. What I should do more? Begging you? I will not. In the end, if you don’t express yourself it is your problem, not mine or @Joh or someone else

          Joh I agree with @Milord and you should continue.

          You're backing the wrong horse. "Very reasonable topic" @Milord says when he started the off-topic shit. And then he said he'd delete the stuff which he didn't. It's still there three days later. Go and look.

          • Joh replied to this.

            Milord What I should do more? Begging you? I will not. In the end, if you don’t express yourself it is your problem, not mine or @Joh or someone else

            How about leaving me alone? Why did you restart this two hours ago? Whether I express myself is NOT your business. And don't try to line up support by dragging other people into this.

            Avery I Had a Look at it and He deleted His Post. What is left is Not from him.

            Beside of what happend in your created topic. You have been here for a Long time and You know that the posts almost always drift away from the actual topic. Ines and others try to bring it back at some point. That's just the way it is and is not a personal attack on you or the topic. It's not nice, full stop.
            You can get angry or you can address it and get back on topic.

              Joh is not a personal attack on you or the topic.

              The two of you need to stop making things up. I have never said it was a personal attack.

              Joh You can get angry or you can address it and get back on topic.

              No, I do not have to get angry or get back on topic. I'm am going to continue what I am doing it. Which is nothing. Quoting @Ines from the other thread "It is a defect of the community". It IS. You cannot have a serious discussion here. Too few of the frequent posters do not have a personal stake in this.

                Avery The two of you need to stop making things up. I have never said it was a personal attack.

                And I did not say you feel it as a personal attack either.
                I was just pointing out that no one was attacking you or the topic with their comment.

                Avery You cannot have a serious discussion here.

                I see it differently. We've had a lot of serious and in-depth discussions here. It's a shame that your topic drifted so quickly, but we can't undo it.

                But to be honest, I find your reaction to the comments a bit extreme, deleting everything straight away and leaving us no opportunity to do better. You expect absolutely correct behaviour from us, but when you experience something that bothers you, you start to lash out symbolically. I don't like it when we're supposed to treat you so sensitively but you don't show it yourself.

                  Joh But to be honest, I find your reaction to the comments a bit extreme, deleting everything straight away and leaving us no opportunity to do better. You expect absolutely correct behaviour from us, but when you experience something that bothers you, you start to lash out symbolically. I don't like it when we're supposed to treat you so sensitively but you don't show it yourself.

                  Here you start to make things up. I was convinced, after having posted my ideas many times (I started doing the chastity bit in the summer of 2021), that I would get no response because I never have before. And, with the exception of you and @Milord , no one responded. (I don't count @Sasha , whoever she is because she didn't read what I wrote. I think masturbation is wrong? Except for the men who are addicted no one here has masturbated more than I, and I have been upfront about it.) You say I expect correct behavior from you people? I have survived here for four years so I know what to expect and have tolerated it well, I think. When I see something that bothers me I say so. In no uncertain terms. I lash out straightforwardly, not symbolically, whatever that is. And maybe you can tell us when I have asked to be treated sensitively. I know better, that's why I have lasted here so long.

                    Avery

                    And, with the exception of you and @Milord , no one responded.

                    My apologies. I didn't get to read it until after the battlefield was already filled with craters. But it sounds like you must have given an important personal account that would have given me all the feels, and I thank you for that. 🙂

                      Avery Simply gave my perspective on changing behavior, apologies for the disco comment at the end however. His use of the word caught me off guard.
                      I obviously don’t know you personally so I cant/wont say if you did it more or less then I did, though given your desire to correct or change this I’d have to assume it was at least in the ballpark of where I was.
                      I’ll also apologize if I misinterpreted something you’d wrote, certainly not my intention, I’ve been wrong before.

                        Sasha I’d have to assume it was at least in the ballpark of where I was.

                        Cool! How did I miss reading you before.

                        Avery "It is a defect of the community"

                        Totally, and in the case related to your topic, I am guilty too. I apologize.

                          Simon Hi everyone and thanks for your earnest comments, some of which had good insights, some of which prompted me to put my device in a drawer.

                          I have found myself well able to live chastely without it - more able in fact.

                          So I guess the takeaway is to not take too seriously the views and opinions of people who need to lock themselves away from their own genitala

                          I think this partly depends on the level and extent of the commitment. Anyone can of course rdecide to go without sex without a device at all. But rhen the decision can also change at any time at bthe drop of a hat.

                          That's fine for some situations, but others require something more permanent, in which case a secure device is the perfect way to achieve this, expecially if there can be another who will keep the keys as act as enforcer.

                          And it can apply to either gender.

                          Getting to achieve this situation is not always a simple matter, and can need some lateral thinking; but where there's a will there's a way.

                          It all depends what is wanted.