Safeword to release from chastity belt

Angelina

this is exactly what i mean, the belt should not cause any psychological damage, especially if it is based on a voluntary basis 😉

@Sara2001
i agree with you in all points 😃 especially in the last one. i think that the key should only be with someone i can trust 100% and who always recognizes when there is an emergency. a key holder must be able to endure this responsibility.

Vanessa

Sara2001 I don't like the idea of a safeword for this. A safeword means that it is still my final descision. I think a keyholder must see situations of emergency when the belt needs to be removed. I don't have a safeword nowadays, why should I need one after marriage?

If you haven't one,you have no reason to get one after marriage,sure.But if you can accept it without any risk of distress,panic,and such,and the emergencies are taken care of properly(immediate unbelting),it can be useless.

Sara2001 I think life changes permanently and any descision can be redone any time. Nobody knows how we feel in 5 or 10 years. I think changes like this with a big impact on your lifestyle should have some kind of waiting period. Like when we decide, that we don't want the belt anymore, there should be a period of one or two months where anything stays at it is, and if we still feel the same after these months, we chould do the change.

The waiting period is a good idea.

Do you think the rules/decisions should be think about again on a specific schedule(like every year,every 5 years,etc...)to decide if we keep it the same way or change it,or only when one of the partner ask to redone one of the rules/decision?

Sara2001 I think that's how it should be. As the wearer you often have "short time" wishes and the system must ensure, that you stay happy, not that you can get out of the belt whenever you want. It's the keyholders descision to release you or not. I don't want to have any kind of final saying in it, I think it would work, because I would use my power to easy.

Mainly,yes.But I think there is some cases(especially if the wearer is emotionally hurt),which requires an unbelting,and a calmer talk.Even if the belt is put back on right after the talk.

If the wearer feels her keyholder doesn't care of her feelings,even if she feels very bad and is hurted emotionally,I don't think it would work.Not for long,at least.

Sara2001 For an obvious emergency, no safeword should be needed. I would never give the key to someone that doesn't know me well enough to see an emergency.

Sure.

Ines Comprehension and tenderness is what I need! 🙃

Not sure it is always enough.Especially if the belt stays on during the talk and comforting.

Angelina this is exactly what i mean, the belt should not cause any psychological damage, especially if it is based on a voluntary basis 😉

But if she feels trapped,and no care taken to make her feels better,I think it would fail.Even if she started to wear it voluntarily.

Ines

Vanessa Not sure it is always enough.Especially if the belt stays on during the talk and comforting.

I think different of you, Vanessa, in this point. If we choose be belted, it is obvious, for me that belt must remain in the talk.
If after talk, we still want to be umbelted, this will imply a change of life.

Sara2001

Vanessa Do you think the rules/decisions should be think about again on a specific schedule(like every year,every 5 years,etc...)to decide if we keep it the same way or change it,or only when one of the partner ask to redone one of the rules/decision?

I think it should only be done when one of the partners feels the need to talk about some changes. Not scheduled.

Vanessa If the wearer feels her keyholder doesn't care of her feelings,even if she feels very bad and is hurted emotionally,I don't think it would work.Not for long,at least.

I think a keyholder must be very responsible. It is his most important task to see what is necessary for the wearer. If this is not give, I will not wear anything for him.

Vanessa But if she feels trapped,and no care taken to make her feels better,I think it would fail.Even if she started to wear it voluntarily.

I think most woman in this situation have long experience before. At least for me that's the case, so I am very used to be belted. I don't think there are such situations for us.

Ines I think different of you, Vanessa, in this point. If we choose be belted, it is obvious, for me that belt must remain in the talk.
If after talk, we still want to be umbelted, this will imply a change of life.

I agree with you. I will wear the belt 24/7 for several years before marriage. It will not be necessary to remove the belt for a talk.

Vanessa And having the chastity belt off for some minutes or hours won't change much things,if it is rare.

I have to disagree with this aspect. Having the ability to get out of the belt, even only for a few minutes, makes a big difference for me.

Vanessa

Ines

Are you sure that in such situation,you'll be able to have a useful talk and be able to express yourself well,even if not calmed a bit before?

It is one of the main reason I think the belt should be taken off during it:let the wearer calm a bit and have an useful talk,while she can express her feelings,fears,etc...more clearly.And having the chastity belt off for some minutes or hours won't change much things,if it is rare.

Vanessa

Sara2001

Yes,I think it would be mainly useful for new wearers,not used to manage it.

A keyholder should always take care about how the wearer feels,sure.

Angelina

We have the exact same opinion about this!😉

Ines The holder gave power about the belt to the girl. It breaks all the concept.

Not right.It is not the wearer who have the power(she still hasn't the keys),but the keyholder understanding she can't handle it right now,and should solve it,while letting the wearer calm down and express her well enough.Which won't be possible if she has to keep the belt on during the talk,in such situation.

Billy

I think it is important to add it should be very rare;and the wearer and the keyholder should always talk right after it.

Ines Secondly because we do not need a password, "mum, please, I need being released due... " works exactly the same than "abracadabra".

Right.

Angelina but maybe the belt can be worn again after the conversation 😉

I think too,it can be possible easily.

Ines

It is a bit different in your case,as you can be fere of it for some time,too.

And it should be only if necessary,not only if she's not in the mood for wearing it.

Angelina i'm still talking about psychic emergencies, not about any short feelings of the girl or philosophies 😉

Same for me;but emotionally hurting,too.

Angelina

@Vanessa

exactly, that's why the key holder has to unlock the wearer as soon as there are psychic emergencies, afterwards we talk about it and decide if the belt will be put on again and if it's acceptable to use a cb at all.

@Ines

to describe it again, it makes no difference if the girl is in the cb during the conversation or not, the cb can be put on again after the conversation 😉

@Sara2001

if it's just a conversation, it's not necessary that's true, but if the girl has a mental breakdown, the keyholder should also be so responsible and unlock the girl.

it doesn't make a big difference as long as the key holder monitors the wearer, the girl can calm down emotionally and have a factual conversation 😉

Ines

Angelina the cb can be put on again after the conversation

Angelina, the belt was open without be an emergency, for wearer asking.
The holder gave power about the belt to the girl. It breaks all the concept.

Angelina

Ines

In this case, it's an emergency.

but maybe the belt can be worn again after the conversation 😉

@Billy

a safeword can work if the belt is worn as a game, but not if you wear it permanently

Billy

Hey, I'm writing here again because I think I may be able to resolve this issue. In the circumstances in which a belt is usualy worn, a safeword is very common. In the scene every action should happen out of love. That's why, if the safeword is used, the wearer MUST be immeadiatly released. The wearer does not have to give any explanation as to why he/she wanted to be released aswell. If the keyholder want's an explanation first, that's very iresponsible behaviour, because for the bottom deep psychological dammage can arise such as relived traumata, Panic attacks or simply deeply broken trust from not being released. Of course the wearer also has a responsibility: To not use the safeword simply to be let out, but only in a Situation of actual danger. Otherwise the trust is also broken because the keyholder can't differentiate anymore between mood or actual danger. Therefore @Ines you don't have to worry, your feeling of being protected doesn't have to go away as you know you won't be released because you just feel like it, but only if there is a risk of you getting actual damage.

Ines

Billy
It is useful and necessary for some games, but not for this case, first because it is not immediate, it is, that probably keyholder do not have key with her/him in this moment.
Secondly because we do not need a password, "mum, please, I need being released due... " works exactly the same than "abracadabra".
And third, here does not exists possibilities of actual immediate damage.

Ines

Angelina t's an emergency.
The ask for a immediate release for a short petition? No, it is not an emergency.
If a keyholder do not open the belt in a emergency is a reason for the girl to say "give the keys right now, because you touched them for last time".
I think I have a lot of luck with my keyholders, maybe because she has the same experience than us, and she built the " politic" about the belt in in my home, and sometimes, she did not release me when I asked.
And it is normal. In one of my very first post here, I wrote that mood is not a reason to be released. And there are a lot of reasons to be released, but not mood.
I can be happy, or sad, and maybe I can need my parents, my sisters, my brother or my friends, but give the girl the power of be released just in order a petition, is the same that give us the key.
And remember my filosophie about the belt, I have the padlocks, not the keys 😉

Sara2001

Angelina In this case, it's an emergency

As I said, a keyholder needs to see the emergency situation and act properly.

Angelina

@Ines

i'm still talking about psychic emergencies, not about any short feelings of the girl or philosophies 😉

@Sara2001

unfortunately not every keyholder recognizes this 🙁 but you are right 😉

Billy

@Vanessa of course, ideally a safeword is never used. Obviously this concept doesn't aply to you all except for @Ines maybe. But if the belt is worn consensual the wearer must be sure that the keyholder is taking Care, which also means release if necessary.

Vanessa

Billy

@Ines was right.Even if we felt very bad,we should still be able to ask for release,even without a safeword.

Angelina

Yes,no matter if the wearing is reluctantly or not,emergencies should be noticed and,in such cases,the belt should be taken off immediately.

newbie

If chastity is used in the relationship,yes.

Renita

Billy But if the belt is worn consensual the wearer must be sure that the keyholder is taking Care, which also means release if necessary.

It should be so. I can get released if necessary without "safeword".

Angelina

@Vanessa @Billy

i agree with both of you. i am of the opinion that a good key holder recognizes emergencies immediately and can differentiate when a release is necessary . a safeword only makes sense when worn absolutely voluntarily. i would never make anyone a key holder who does not recognize emergencies

Angelina

Renita

i agree with you. it is the responsibility of the keyholder to free us in case of emergency 😉