Non-native language

Esteban

Yes, but as Angelina probably has to translate back into German it can further reinforce the negative meaning of the word "manipulation" in her language.

In order to limit translation problems in English, I'm doing an inverse translation and I am trying to correct the glaring inconsistencies. And sometimes I use another translator than google to try to get a more appropriate word.

I do not speak English (10 % à 20%), so it's a huge handicap for me.
In fact, I'm better at perceiving the meaning of long messages than short messages.
Because the longer the message, the stronger its meaning.

Angelina

@Laura

yes i mean the image from the Excel table 😉

@Esteban

we both have the same problem , we both speak bad english , so i use a translator 😉 but he also makes mistakes 🙁 and sometimes i don't see these mistakes , otherwise i correct the mistakes manually

and yes manipulate is a negative word in german it means something like falsify

Vanessa

Angelina we both have the same problem , we both speak bad english , so i use a translator 😉 but he also makes mistakes 🙁 and sometimes i don't see these mistakes , otherwise i correct the mistakes manually

and yes manipulate is a negative word in german it means something like falsify

Manipulate can have this meaning in french too,it depends on the context.

I generally write directly in english,I sometimes use Google trad if I've some doubt about a word,or,mainly,if I'm not sure of the spelling of a word.

Angelina

Vanessa

i use the deepl translator, which is very good, but it doesn't translate some words and shortens my sentences extremely 🙁

Vanessa

Angelina

I don't think any translator is presently able to translate 100% correctly a text and all his shades(even the 50 grey ones! 😉 ));it is why that,to translate a book or similar,editors hire professional people,instead of only using a software.

Even if it is not too bad,often.My parents know the first ones they were used mainstream,and the text was more comic than well translated.

Angelina

Vanessa

I know 🙁

that's why my contributions often read like those of a little child, although I can sometimes be poetic, I try to make my contributions simple so that everyone understands 😉

Vanessa

Angelina

Mainly,you're easy to understand.You can try to write more complex answers,if you want,it would test how good your translator is!😉

Translators have mainly problems with typical expressions and shades,I think.If it is avoided,it could work pretty well,even if not perfect.

Angelina

Vanessa

I agree with you 100% 🙂

I have already tried to translate more complicated texts,
sometimes it works, but sometimes it doesn't.

but most of the time i don't have the time for complex texts either 😂

Vanessa

Angelina

I tend to reply shortly too,it can take a lot of time to answer,so with long and complex answers,it can be hard to manage.

Angelina

Vanessa

exactly, but you always manage to give very helpful and meaningful answers 😉

Vanessa

Angelina

Thank you!🙂

Angelina

Vanessa

be welcome 🙂

Ines

I think that, mainly a language is a tool for communication, so even if is obvious that I am not Emily Bronte, or even my mother that uses pretty well some languages, I prefer to make an effort and I think that MOST of cases I achieve you can understand my Red-skin English. 😂

Angelina

Ines

ines , welcome back to the forum 🤣

we missed you and yes we understand you very well, that's the good thing about english, we come from many different nations and we can still talk 😉

Laura

Ines I tried to learn Spanish a while ago, but with no success. So English and French only

Vanessa

Ines

I've personally no problem to understand you.

Angelina

English is the main language for it...

But it could have been very different if France haven't sold a part of the territory to the US(the Louisiana,which was way bigger than the actual state),centuries ago,the US may have spoken french,and it would have changed a lot of things about international discussion...

Laura

I had troubles to try to learn spanish too.

Amira

You're still understandable,don't worry.

You can try to use translator to help you if needed.

Ines

Laura
I think Rome heritage languages are more complex to learn. It is obvious that my English is not good, but in a very elemental way, I can use it to communicate, it is a great advantage of English.

Esteban

Laura I tried to learn Spanish a while ago, but with no success. So English and French only

I love well educated girls. 😁

"Speaking French" is even more important than being a virgin.

But as you have these two qualities I can only congratulate you. 😀

Renita

Laura I tried to learn Spanish a while ago, but with no success

What's your challenge?

Laura

Renita Lack of time, I guess