Secondary shield
It is a very good thread.
Has anyone else tried to rip it off?
Maximus i just finished it today 
Ines It is a very good thread.
It's some of your best work 
Do you intend to write like that or is it the translating? It's like poetry. And you write about why and how a girl should be and how the belt protects and I'm like following along thinking. So yeah i want to do that ooh i feel anxiety still... I'm ok for now what is that...
ok yeah saying I'm doing that is still - like it's not problem. This is a mess I'll write tomorrow.
Oh dear I shouldn't try to write my thoughts late at night.
Ines No, ever, I do not use it
I know you don't use a translation program - you write very good english. But I put another quote below - it is like nice poetry I like it. It matches my beliefs in some ways - but is a complete version not the half measures i used to think.
Ines Anyway for me one of the prettiest of being belted is to give myself to my man. If a girl do not believe in marriage she can still believe in chastity.
And for me a chastity belt without a secondary shield is a nonsense. A belt whitout it just protect our hymen, and I want my belt protect me all, my love and my capability to give me up to my man.
@Ines you also said (years ago sorry will take ages to find it) but you said removable secondary is needed for cleaning. Do you mean to shower better or to wash the belt when taken off?
The secondary on mine has the long band up to just a single lock at the top so can't be taken off. I hope it's not a weakness.
Renita You can try to bend it.
How much does yours bend?
Mine will push to the side a bit but twists and looks scary actually. But also that's not wearing it if it was tight i don't think it will move much.
Jen you also said (years ago sorry will take ages to find it) but you said removable secondary is needed for cleaning. Do you mean to shower better or to wash the belt when taken off?
Yes, and it is good to clean too the secondary shield itself. Without secondary shield you can clean much better labia, and in some days with more flow, for example is a good thing.
Jen The secondary on mine has the long band up to just a single lock at the top so can't be taken off. I hope it's not a weakness.
You will need more umbelted showers. Advantage is that the front padlock does not bulge.
Jen you write very good english.
Nooooo, but at least we can understand ourselves (more or less)....
I like how @Ines writes in a sexy accent... I imagine her like Penelope Cruz's character in the film "Vicky Christina Barcelona"... A fiery ball of pent-up sexual frustration that comes flying in like a whirlwind and tells it exactly like it is, leaving a trail of debris in her wake. Somehow perfectly sensible yet utterly insane at the same time. 
Sin Penelope Cruz's character in the film "Vicky Christina Barcelona"... A fiery ball of pent-up sexual frustration that comes flying in like a whirlwind and tells it exactly like it is, leaving a trail of debris in her wake. Somehow perfectly sensible yet utterly insane at the same time.
Noooo! My accent is pretty different, I am Northern, 
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And no... Maybe I am curious and ¿expectant? but far or being frustrated.
Jen you also said (years ago sorry will take ages to find it) but you said removable secondary is needed for cleaning. Do you mean to shower better or to wash the belt when taken off?
The secondary on mine has the long band up to just a single lock at the top so can't be taken off. I hope it's not a weakness.
I told I took notes for asking 
I think was the same as you are referring:
Ines Periods without unlock at least secondary shield are messy.
And last thing that girls have to be, are messy.
Clarified, she was using the Neosteel belt with separate short secondary shield which allows its release without unlocking the belt, and she was able to check the issues of not removal
- Edited
I note that Ines has been more vocal of late, both here and in the "South West Corner" thread. 
While we are very different: she is young and I am sadly very old, she is religious and I most certainly not; it seems that we have many similar ideas. Her professional interests seem to lie with medicine which were my own; we are both willing wearers of chastity devices, and are both strongly opposed to involuntarily wearing of the same, especially in minors.
What is also striking to me is that Ines reason for enjoying wearing chastity devices is the same as my own: namely to save ourselves for our partner, because of love. And in a very real sense, the terms submission and dominance have nothing to do with our choice.
In the South West Corner thread (which is sadly hard to follow since it really is a conversation between Ines and Maximus and where anywhere from five to ten points from an earlier response, are answered at a time making it tedious to go back and try to follow); there is quite a bit of discussion regarding dominance and submission. In a way this is not surprising. Both terms come up a lot in discussion of chastity devices, both for willing wearers like Ines and me, but more especially, for the unwilling or involuntary wearers.
Submission has likely evolved several times independently in the animal kingdom as a way to protect the children. One member of a partnership or group relies on the other(s) without foraging for food and in turn, rears their young. While this is usually the female (not always – Antarctic king penguins are a notable exception) and the male takes a dominant role. Actually, I am not sure whether dominance plays a role in king penguins’ lifestyle. I have an amusing image in my mind of the female penguin telling her hubby to stand in the corner and hold the egg until she returns from shopping for food!
What has been mostly left out of discussions on this forum is that a person can actually change their natural tendencies, going from submission to dominance or vice-versa, depending on circumstances and partners. I offer myself as an example. For the first part of my life, I was very dominant. Probably to the point of being an obnoxious brat A lot of it was out of necessity. I had very little parental support and almost from being seven years old I was left to fend for myself, making decisions no child should have to make. I was extremely lucky not to be abused.
Even when I first met the woman who much later became my partner, I took the dominant role. Back then we were just friends who occasionally hung out together. Later we met again professionally and my dominance ruined the friendship entirely. While the details are not important, the thing is I later became very ill and ultimately had to suck it up when she took me in and basically saved my life and career. Occasionally I tried to reassert my dominance but knowing how ill I was, she took and kept control. And as I recovered, I began to perceive the sheer magic of letting someone else take over the reins. When you have never experienced it before, the freedom from the responsibility of having to make even the inconsequential decisions of every day life is quite addictive. It not only can make you happy, it can give you more energy to focus on what is important to you.
Thus, if you can find that special person who you can love unreservedly and trust absolutely; where their own priorities are your happiness and the happiness of your relationship, then believe me, submission is easy. And yes, it is possible to go from dominance to submission.
To be honest, I suspect I am a poor submissive. I enjoy teasing my partner and making her life hectic and full. In return I have given her the most precious thing I own and I do my best to keep her smiling and happy. My wearing of a chastity belt is my gift to her in part to show how much I love her. It also happens to keep us tied together. But one thing is for certain: neither submission nor dominance has anything at all to do with the reason I willingly wear a chastity belt (and thigh bands).
Of course, I read with sadness how others are forced reluctantly into wearing of such a device, where they do it under sufferance for some perceived gain. I feel sad for such, yet I must remain polite. I have not walked in their shoes and I am reminded that my own shoes were once very uncomfortable, particularly when I was young. I will never condemn other for the choices they make, provided they do not hurt anyone else.
Foxies While we are very different: she is young and I am sadly very old, she is religious and I most certainly not; it seems that we have many similar ideas. Her professional interests seem to lie with medicine which were my own; we are both willing wearers of chastity devices, and are both strongly opposed to involuntarily wearing of the same, especially in minors.
I thought the very same about you!
Foxies I am a poor submissive
Even if I do not describe myself as submissive, if it is your nature I would not use the term " poor", if it makes you happy, it is great.
Foxies to go back and try to follow
Sorry.... If something is of your interest, please ask and I if it is necessary I rewrite everything.
Foxies she is young and I am sadly very old, she is religious and I most certainly not; it seems that we have many similar ideas.
I don't know how much you were able to follow the south corner, but if is enough, despite seems you also are "not my profile woman", for example, we have diferent orientation, you will understand that reading that from you also makes me feel better 
because that way of understanding these things are the same, not anything isolated, and a bit unknown by me because who showed interest in that were more in a kinky ? way
Foxies anywhere from five to ten points from an earlier response, are answered at a time making it tedious to go back and try to follow
well, from my side I try to quote almost necessary to understand which is the context, even for me if I have no clear what I'm replying to.. is difficult give a complete answer
Also I reply to anybody who talks to me, even there.... other brave members tried there 
Despite being here in this specific forum, the opinions can be a bit biased, it's nice to see is not something isolated thinking in that way and also specifically your beautiful description about that related to your experience
Angelina this is also difficult because the secondary shield is locked to the belt
That's why I'm asking if anyone was successive in it? I have heard this rumor long time ago.
Jen The secondary on mine has the long band up to just a single lock at the top so can't be taken off. I hope it's not a weakness.
Mine is detachable.
Jen How much does yours bend?
I tried to unhook the lower part of it.