Telling others about your belt

Sara2001

Tim That, and how much Sara2001's view on her bra and thighbands has changed, are what make me uncomfortable. Because men who are skilled emotional and psychological abusers understand human psychology very well and will cause and guide similar changes in their victims.

I have to say that I don't agree with you. At first I think that Daniel is absolutely not psychological skilled. We just try a lot and when we feel it suits us, it stays in place. He has no hidden agenda to brainwash and abuse me and from my mother I know very well what I am doing and how my future will be. I also think that my view on bra, belt and tightbands hasn't changed much. I still hate to wear it, especially how restrictive the tightbands are and I still would like to get rid of them one day, but I have noticed how much he loves me wearing it for him, so I decided on my own, that I will wear them for him with him as the keyholder, as long as he wants. It's just more important for me to do this for him.

Vanessa It would be useful to know what she would write about her feelings,but ok.

I am sorry, I can't do anything to change this. Rules are rules. From what I know and see she is happy in her life, especially with the baby.

Tim

Sara2001 I didn't say Daniel was doing that to you. I said that doing that kind of thing honestly still makes me uncomfortable because it reminds me of abusive men who do the same things for much darker reasons.

You're both young and you seem honest in your desires. If I was going to call anyone abusive, it would be your and Daniel's parents for shaping those desires in a direction that could've easily turned out badly if you hadn't found each other.

Angelina

Tim

no, sorry but now you are going very far. you cannot accuse all men abuse just because they have a different lifestyle

Sara2001 Rules are rules.

only when these rules are in a written contract 😉

Vanessa

Tim

I agree that it became quickly stricter for @Sara2001,but I still think she would stop the relationship if it becomes abusive.And I doubt her family would have accepted it if they thought she was not truly willing to accept it.

Tim If I was going to call anyone abusive, it would be your and Daniel's parents for shaping those desires in a direction that could've easily turned out badly if you hadn't found each other.

However,@Sara2001's parents accept that their daughters date someone who is not into this sort of lifestyle.@Sara2001's sister has a boyfriend(are they still dating?)that want an equal right relationship,and he's accepted.

Angelina only when these rules are in a written contract 😉

🤣

Sara2001 I think it could be much more difficult, once I got used to having many orgasms.

I thinks so,too.Even after your first orgasm,it would be harder.

Tim

Angelina I never said I was going to accuse anyone of abuse. I said if I was going to accuse someone of abuse, it would not be the children, because they are shaped by their parents.

Would you blame a child for not learning to read? No. It's the parents' job to know what is best for the child. Would you blame a parent if their child can't read? It depends. They might be failing as parents or it might not be their fault. Maybe their child has a learning disability. Maybe they live in a village in the middle of sub-Saharan Africa with no schools.

Sara2001

Angelina only when these rules are in a written contract

Not in our relationship 🙂

Megan

Tim I believe Tim does seem to know a lot about wanting to manipulate women... He seems very experienced in it.

Seriously though what will work for Sarah is to have where you don't have to defend anything and then your feelings come before securing you. So once he has made love to you and your parents are out of the picture you can revise all these only one orgasm every 10 years type crazy rules... 😅

Angelina

Tim

perhaps I did not understand it properly, or interpreted it too harshly, I apologise 🙂

and no I don't blame anyone for anything because problems generally require joint solutions (I would like to explain but I would have to write 3 pages about how I got this attitude)

Sara2001

Megan So once he has made love to you and your parents are out of the picture you can revise all these only one orgasm every 10 years type crazy rules...

I don't think this will happen to me 🙂

Luckily it will not only be any 10 years, but there will be no time in my life where I don't have to wear my equipment with a sex life most unbelted married women have to find out if I want to be be belted again and honestly I am not sure if this would be a good idea. I know that I only do this for Daniel, but I think it could be much more difficult, once I got used to having many orgasms.

Tim

Megan Don't even joke about that.

I had to watch women in my family be manipulated and psychologically abused by spouses and family members. One of my in-laws got an unlisted number, only for her "family" to somehow trick a phone company employee into telling them.

Angelina

Vanessa sister has a boyfriend(are they still dating?)that want an equal right relationship,and he's accepted.

true, it shows that @Sara2001 sister is a bigger "rebel", but the parents also accept a non-man dominated relationship 🙂

Vanessa Even after your first orgasm,it would be harder.

i think that's right, that's probably why people who wear a abstinence belt or a chastity belt with breaks try to fight the belt

Sara2001

Vanessa And I doubt her family would have accepted it if they thought she was not truly willing to accept it.

Definitely. My father and Daniel talk a lot about how I should be guided and how things should be. I feel very cared by both of them, but sometimes I would love to hear what they talk about 🙂

Angelina true, it shows that @Sara2001 sister is a bigger "rebel", but the parents also accept a non-man dominated relationship 🙂

Yes, and they accept that my brother is not going in such a relationship, too.

Vanessa Even after your first orgasm,it would be harder.

I really kind of fear that time 😂

Tim

Vanessa However,@Sara2001's parents accept that their daughters date someone who is not into this sort of lifestyle.@Sara2001's sister has a boyfriend(are they still dating?)that want an equal right relationship,and he's accepted.

Sorry I went silent. The holidays were busy and stuff piled up.

I meant that I don't approve of @Sara2001's parents encouraging them to develop in a direction which would make it so much easier for an abusive partner to manipulate them into staying.

Parents have a responsibility to prepare their children for the dangers of the world around them.

Vanessa

Angelina that's probably why people who wear a abstinence belt or a chastity belt with breaks try to fight the belt

Probably right.

Sara2001 sometimes I would love to hear what they talk about 🙂

It would be better,I think.

Sara2001 Yes, and they accept that my brother is not going in such a relationship, too.

He doesn't want a man-led relationship?

Sara2001 I really kind of fear that time 😂

It would be very good feeling,but make the chastity devices harder to manage.

Angelina

Sara2001 Yes, and they accept that my brother is not going in such a relationship, too.

i didn't know that your brother has a relationship too, all the best for him too 🙂

i have a question: does daniel get along with your sister and your sister's boyfriend (if daniel knows him)? there are very big worlds colliding

Sara2001

Angelina i have a question: does daniel get along with your sister and your sister's boyfriend (if daniel knows him)? there are very big worlds colliding

Yes, that's not really a problem. All of us think that anybody should do what he or she thinks is best for them.

Angelina

Sara2001

i'm glad that it works in your family 🙂

Sara2001

Vanessa He doesn't want a man-led relationship?

Yes, honestly I think he is to lazy to be a leader. He wouldn't be consequently enough. I think he likes that he can order us from time to time to clean his room and things like that, but he would not be strict enough to lead a relationship like this.

He is actually in a very vanilla relationship. For now, she doesn't know anything about our equipment and rules.

Vanessa It would be very good feeling,but make the chastity devices harder to manage.

I think wait for the next orgasm will be very hard.

Angelina

Vanessa but make the chastity devices harder to manage.

it could also make the general acceptance of the relationship system more difficult

Sara2001 He is actually in a very vanilla relationship

what is this? tried to translate it but nothing came up 😂

Vanessa

Sara2001 He is actually in a very vanilla relationship. For now, she doesn't know anything about our equipment and rules.

She knows how relationships often work in your family?

Surprising she doesn't know about your devices;how long since they started to date?

Sara2001 I think wait for the next orgasm will be very hard.

I think so,too.

Angelina it could also make the general acceptance of the relationship system more difficult

Right.

Angelina first of all the chastity equipment 🤣

🤣

Sara2001

Angelina what is this? tried to translate it but nothing came up

A normal, equal rights kind of standard relationship. Vanilla is a term of the BDSM Community, but we use it from time to time, because it explains everything in just one word.

Max9

Sara2001 What does it actually give you that you want to live in a ds relation ..
I mean ... some are turned on by it ...if I would do it I would probably do it for the feeling of protection. ... what is your reason that you do it?

Angelina

Sara2001

ah ok, i have too little experience in the bdsm area, so to say a "normal" relationship

Max9 apart from the severe consequences it sounds nice indeed

the system is perfectly ok, but there are still some actions I am critical of

Sara2001

Max9 What does it actually give you that you want to live in a ds relation ..

This kind of relationship brings a great closeness and harmony. I think that this harmony is much more important and valuable then my personal independence. Living with a clear structure and the knowledge of severe consequences and consistency for failing makes it easier to maintain this harmony. I also love the concept that it is my job to make his life as good and pleasurable as possible while it is his job to make me enjoy my life, just with different tools.

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