Telling others about your belt

Sara2001

Vanessa Enough to not try,even if it would give her some freedom or advantages?

Yes, if we are caught lying, my father will make sure that the punishment compensates our advantages a few times. So lying is always a bad idea. The bigger the advantages, the higher the risk.

Vanessa If breaking a rule,it is is mainly to have a benefit,however...Especially if done purposely.

Yes, what I mean the kind of system, let's say you are allowed to eat one ice-cream a day and you eat 2 instead, then the punishment will include that you are not allowed your one ice cream for 2-3 days (stupid example, but it should show the system). At the end you would have less ice cream as if you have been honest.

Vanessa Not possible it would be the case if not wearing it?

I do it for him. So I don't think so.

Vanessa I think you would like a lot sports,if it is the main possibility to be free of thigh bands!

Not a bad thing 🤣

Vanessa Could you say him at any time,or only during the planned talks?

During the planned talks or I can ask him if we can talk about this topic, but it would be a long term thing anyway. We would talk about it, but after the talk there would be a period of thinking. This is no way to get rid of the equipment in a heartbeat. It can be the start of a re-evaluation of a few weeks or months. It would most likely end in some changes instead of a complete removal of the chastity equipment. It's an important part for him.

Vanessa Has it already happened?

All the time, we try a lot of things to see if it is working for us. Many, maybe most of my rules where established like that.

Vanessa Seems good for both of you,at least!

Yes, for me it feels very beneficial.

Angelina

Vanessa Good way to act.Would he ask a similar question,but easier for you to know if you lie,or not?

probably, he would formulate the question in such a way that i could answer it honestly

Sara2001 Yes, what I mean the kind of system, let's say you are allowed to eat one ice-cream a day and you eat 2 instead, then the punishment will include that you are not allowed your one ice cream for 2-3 days (stupid example, but it should show the system). At the end you would have less ice cream as if you have been honest.

now i am hungry for ice cream 😂

Vanessa

Sara2001 The bigger the advantages, the higher the risk.

A way to be sure it would rarely be worth the risks?

Sara2001 At the end you would have less ice cream as if you have been honest.

Except if sure enough to not be caught!😉

Sara2001 Not a bad thing 🤣

Sure!😉

Sara2001 During the planned talks or I can ask him if we can talk about this topic, but it would be a long term thing anyway. We would talk about it, but after the talk there would be a period of thinking. This is no way to get rid of the equipment in a heartbeat. It can be the start of a re-evaluation of a few weeks or months. It would most likely end in some changes instead of a complete removal of the chastity equipment. It's an important part for him.

I'm not surprised,you often mention some weeks or month between asking for the removal of the chastity devices and the time it is removed,to be sure it would not be a temporary change of mind.During this time,would you have other talks about it?

Sara2001 All the time, we try a lot of things to see if it is working for us. Many, maybe most of my rules where established like that.

Good way to try new rules,to know if it works,and how.

Sara2001 Yes, for me it feels very beneficial.

🙂

Angelina now i am hungry for ice cream 😂

🤣

Foxies

It could work!😉

Angelina yes, i agree with you, but a new belt with more space can be ordered quickly 😉

If we can convince them that the old belt is useless and should be discarded,doing a diet to lose weight woudl help!😉

Joh

Sara2001 This is no way to get rid of the equipment in a heartbeat. It can be the start of a re-evaluation of a few weeks or months. It would most likely end in some changes instead of a complete removal of the chastity equipment.

What if he decide to keep you in the belt regardless of your attitude change?

Foxies

Angelina
It just struck me - ice cream could be the very answer for unwilling wearers 🤣

Jen

Foxies
oh if only they knew to offer ice cream everything would be different.
Actually there has not been any dessert since. Is this the punishment

Foxies

Jen

When I said that ice cream could be the very answer for unwilling wearers; I was trying to suggest that uncontrolled weight gain (a common side effect for the medication "ice cream" 🤣 ) might be a way to have the key holder remove the dreaded chastity belt!

Jen

Foxies Oh thats much better 🤣 I totally didn't get that

Angelina

Foxies

thanks for explaining it again, i didn't understand it either at first 😂

yes, i agree with you, but a new belt with more space can be ordered quickly 😉

Sara2001

Vanessa A way to be sure it would rarely be worth the risks?

Yes. My father and Daniel hate the idea of accepting the risk to have an advantage.

Vanessa Except if sure enough to not be caught!

Yes, except I would get caught lying later, then it would be even worse.

Vanessa During this time,would you have other talks about it?

Yes, talking about it is very important to come to a solution. It helps him to make the best decision.

Angelina

Vanessa If we can convince them that the old belt is useless and should be discarded,doing a diet to lose weight woudl help!😉

Hihi Yes 😉

Joh What if he decide to keep you in the belt regardless of your attitude change?

i think then she would end the relationship in the worst case scenario

Vanessa

Sara2001 Yes. My father and Daniel hate the idea of accepting the risk to have an advantage.

Does it work well?

Sara2001 Yes, except I would get caught lying later, then it would be even worse.

Rarely avoiding it?

Never got an advantage worth the punishment?

Sara2001 Yes, talking about it is very important to come to a solution. It helps him to make the best decision.

I agree it is important.Good you discuss it during the waiting.

Angelina i think then she would end the relationship in the worst case scenario

Yes,she was always clear about it.

Angelina

Even If I haven't first hand experience like @Sara2001,I think so.There is a lot of talks and trust needed for it to work,probably more than in classical relationship.

Sara2001

Joh What if he decide to keep you in the belt regardless of your attitude change?

It's not about attitude change but my happiness. If he doesn't change my situation in a way that ensures my long term happiness, even after we talked about it several times, he is no longer Mr. Right and I end the relationship. But this will not happen.

Joh

Sara2001
Your life circumstances as well as your views have changed during the last years. What if you manoeuvres yourself into a situation from which you cannot get out mentally or even physically?

Sara2001

Joh What if you manoeuvres yourself into a situation from which you cannot get out mentally or even physically?

I trust Daniel that he takes care of me, otherwise it wouldn't work. I am sure I will feel when this is no longer the case. We have friends and family, it's unthinkable that I don't have the physical ability to run away or something, even if he would lock me in the basement or something crazy like that (of course this will never, never, ever happen). I don't think that I have a much higher risk then anybody else. It's so much easier to recognise abuse in our kind of relationship, that in fact I believe the risk is even lower.

Joh

Sara2001 I don't think that I have a much higher risk then anybody else. It's so much easier to recognise abuse in our kind of relationship, that in fact I believe the risk is even lower.

Your view point changed over the time so it is likely you don't see it any more.

Angelina

Sara2001 that in fact I believe the risk is even lower.

Why do you think that? do you think a top/button relationship is more honest than an equal one ?

Sara2001

Joh Your view point changed over the time so it is likely you don't see it any more.

This aspect never changed and even if. I have friends and family, their opinions never changed. If for example my father or my brother get the idea that Daniel is abusive to me, he would have a lot of trouble. The same would happen if his family would get this idea. I feel very save and cared and as long as I am still happy, I am fine when my limits changed and I accept now more then 1-2 years ago. I think there is nothing wrong with it.

Joh

Sara2001
Then all is in the best order. I wish you a happy life and enjoy it.

Sara2001

Angelina Why do you think that? do you think a top/button relationship is more honest than an equal one ?

I think in this kind of relationship it's a day to day thing to ask yourself if everything is as it should be and with the weekly talks you can't forget it or get used to it, because both of us are kind of "forced" to think about things that are not as they should be.

Vanessa Does it work well?

Yes, I think it's working very well from their perspective.

Vanessa Never got an advantage worth the punishment?

I would say in 7 or 8 out of 10 cases I was caught after some time, but because the longer I have an advantage the harder the consequences will be, it's mostly very small things where I accepted the risk.

Vanessa I agree it is important.Good you discuss it during the waiting

Talking is the key and must always be possible on a regular basis.

Vanessa There is a lot of talks and trust needed for it to work,probably more than in classical relationship.

Yes, much, much more talk and trust. You can't submit to someone who you don't trust that he will take care of your wishes and needs as good as he can without struggling on a regular basis.

Angelina

Vanessa There is a lot of talks and trust needed for it to work,probably more than in classical relationship.

But that should be the case in every relationship, otherwise the relationship is more like living next to each other and not living together.

Sara2001 I think in this kind of relationship it's a day to day thing to ask yourself if everything is as it should be and with the weekly talks you can't forget it or get used to it, because both of us are kind of "forced" to think about things that are not as they should be.

that's true, but as i replied to @Vanessa's post, that should be the case in any relationship.

Joh

Sara2001 I think in this kind of relationship it's a day to day thing to ask yourself if everything is as it should be and with the weekly talks you can't forget it or get used to it, because both of us are kind of "forced" to think about things that are not as they should be.

A top/button relation is not necessary. You can adapt this routine to every relation. You have to be consequent otherwise it has a high risk to fail.
Most of the time they think at topic does not need to talk about or they are to lazy.

Vanessa

Sara2001 Yes, I think it's working very well from their perspective.

Which is not very good for you and your sister...

Sara2001 I would say in 7 or 8 out of 10 cases I was caught after some time, but because the longer I have an advantage the harder the consequences will be, it's mostly very small things where I accepted the risk.

20% to 30% of the cases,it is not too bad;but if the punishment is related to how long you get it before being caught,it should be decided what to try to get very wisely,yes.

Joh A top/button relation is not necessary.

Yes,but it seems it is more often the case in this sort of relationship.

Angelina But that should be the case in every relationship

I agree,but it not always the case...

Sara2001

Right.

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