Vanessa Ok,so,it is not the sort of relationship you learned from @Sara2001 and her boyfriend,but the fact they talk together a lot?

Yes, exactly.

The men lead relation is has a certain charm. But it can only work if both have the right character.
On the one hand, it is a very big gift from her to him which demands extremely much from her. On the other hand, he must be absolutely consistent otherwise the whole thing will not work and end in disaster. This can be a separation or a total suppression in which case she will be in such a dependence of emotional and material kind that she will not get out of it.
It is like walking on a knife's edge. I don't see it for me that I can take on that responsibility.

Vanessa No.I don't plan to leave France.

And working for a foreigner company remotely?

Angelina well, it needs a part that is at least somewhat dominant.

Not necessary. You need only the understanding and commitment to find a solution both will be happy with it. To be stubborn will not help.

          Vanessa Some meeting,but not successful.And,as we're confined at least 1 month now,it would be even harder.

          I wish you good luck anyway 😃

          Vanessa Too close to the main producers of chastity devices in Europe!😉

          🤣 🤣 🤣

          Joh It is like walking on a knife's edge. I don't see it for me that I can take on that responsibility.

          i agree, that's why i couldn't do the submissive or dominant part. both require a lot of work to make it work and as you said the right character is improtant.

          Joh To be stubborn will not help.

          I know I notice it myself sometimes, but I was brought up to always insist on my rights. 😉

                    Angelina I know I notice it myself sometimes, but I was brought up to always insist on my rights.

                    Their is a difference between stubborn and stand up for your rights.

                        Joh

                        i know but sometimes the boundary is very vaguely defined and i am someone who often walks on the knife's edge on this subject.

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                            Angelina i am someone who often walks on the knife's edge on this subject.

                            Yup.Don't cut yourself!

                                Joh Yup.Don't cut yourself!

                                as i said, i'm trying. that's just the problem when i'm more submissive towards my father, more equal towards my girlfriend and more dominant towards strangers. that can sometimes be difficult to maintain the "roles". 😃

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                                    Angelina that can sometimes be difficult to maintain the "roles".

                                    Maybe you should switch sometime but not when you are with strangers.

                                        Joh On the one hand, it is a very big gift from her to him which demands extremely much from her. On the other hand, he must be absolutely consistent otherwise the whole thing will not work

                                        I agree.

                                        Joh And working for a foreigner company remotely?

                                        I could consider it if the job was very interesting(I like to learn new things in my work),or a long term one.

                                        Angelina I wish you good luck anyway 😃

                                        Thank you!🙂

                                        Angelina i agree, that's why i couldn't do the submissive or dominant part. both require a lot of work to make it work and as you said the right character is improtant.

                                        You could learn it with Camryn,if you want to give it a try.

                                                  Joh Maybe you should switch sometime but not when you are with strangers.

                                                  when i am with strangers i tend to be dominant, it gives me some protection before because i want to get to know people first before i show my vulnerable side

                                                  Vanessa You could learn it with Camryn,if you want to give it a try.

                                                  no, we are happy the way it is, i am maybe the more dominant part but that is usually only noticeable in long term decisions and is rather unconscious 😃

                                                        Angelina when i am with strangers i tend to be dominant, it gives me some protection before because i want to get to know people first before i show my vulnerable side

                                                        Understandable.

                                                        Angelina no, we are happy the way it is

                                                        So,it is good the way it is!🙂