Talking to girls and young women

Laura

a_father I want to reduce them or at least help girls avoiding the belt.

Then create a separate topic for it

James

a_father Maybe some here want to increase the number of locked members, I want to reduce them or at least help girls avoiding the belt. If most of you are fakes (who knows?) I'm a spoilsport and troublemaker, if not, I'm sure to be helpful to some.

Humor me.

Actually go and ask your wife and daughter if they think the best way to convince or work with a stressed girl or woman is more harshness and feelings of force, to 'wake them up' with a verbal slap, basically. And listen to what they actually say openly.

Angelina

a_father Sorry, @Angelina, you are not strong. Why do you always claim this? You aren't stronger than other people, just a normal person like me and you and most other. I would never think, I'm strong. I even don't think about this. Strong is somebody who works in a dangerous job to save life or in other special positions. Neither you nor me can claim this.

that is unfair to me and to yourself. why shouldn't we be strong ? and especially if we are not, according to your arguments, what are we ?

a_father Without 'special' interrests nobody even knows about the existance of these belts.

that's not true, my father once explained to me exactly how he found the belt. he was simply looking for methods to prevent mastubation and sex. of course he was probably on fetish websites, but that's how he found out how the belt works.

a_father

Angelina and especially if we are not, according to your arguments, what are we ?

We are normal people. Everybody claims to be strong. But I think, this needs more than normal people do. If you have a scale from 0 to 10, where 0 is very weak and 10 is very strong, than I think we are perhaps at 5.
Concerning your father: I don't believe him. To buy a chastity belt for the daughter needs more than finding one on a website. And then the story with the belt for your girlfriend..... And that he always wants to lock you himself, what makes it necessary to touch you, what is not really necessary and very embarrassing. Sorry, you may not see, what someone from outside sees...
Even if my daughter had every week a new boyfriend/girlfriend (she has none and isn't interested in a relationship at all at the moment) or would masturbate daily (what I don't know and what is none of my business) , I would never do such a kind of abuse. I would talk to her and we would have a lot of discussions (because of boyfriends / girlfriends, not the rest) to teach her self-esteem, but her body is her body. And her private area is her private area.
And to question the criticism of a way of saying something: All women want to be emancipated, but if you say something directly, it means: That's not how you talk to a lady. Where is the mistake?!
I don't harm a fly and I don't put anyone in chastity belts. I don't think I'm the bad guy here.

James

a_father And to question the criticism of a way of saying something: All women want to be emancipated, but if you say something directly, it means: That's not how you talk to a lady. Where is the mistake?!
I don't harm a fly and I don't put anyone in chastity belts. I don't think I'm the bad guy here.

Again. Humor me.

Angelina

a_father We are normal people. Everybody claims to be strong. But I think, this needs more than normal people do. If you have a scale from 0 to 10, where 0 is very weak and 10 is very strong, than I think we are perhaps at 5.

isn't a 5 strong, i think so, i think every human being is strong in their own way 🙂

a_father Concerning your father: I don't believe him

I believe him and also because I have tested it myself.

a_father And to question the criticism of a way of saying something: All women want to be emancipated, but if you say something directly, it means: That's not how you talk to a lady. Where is the mistake?!
I don't harm a fly and I don't put anyone in chastity belts. I don't think I'm the bad guy here.

i don't want to be emancipated but respected, there is a difference. but i don't have a problem with you even if we don't often agree. 😉

Vanessa Not with aggressive people,or people which can't consider they could be wrong,for every word they write.

i don't think he is aggressive and yes he is very stubborn in his opinion but there are things we disagree on but can discuss anyway

Jen

you are a strong person too 🙂

Vanessa

Angelina only by discussing different opinions this forum stays alive 😃

Not with aggressive people,or people which can't consider they could be wrong,for every word they write.

Angelina i think we should not discuss so many different things in the introduction thread anymore 😂

I agree!😉

James

He doesn't,as he knows it wouldn't strengthen his opinion.

James

Vanessa He doesn't,as he knows it wouldn't strengthen his opinion.

I know he probably won't but I am curious to see if the white knight is not a coward.

Ines

Vanessa Not with aggressive people,or people which can't consider they could be wrong,for every word they write.

Agree with you. Fully.

Jen

I know I'm not the strongest personality and need to hear some things to keep my resolve but the frog thing was horrible. And you're comparing me to that. I'd like to think I have more sense than a frog.

Megan

Jen the suggestions that no one should have a belt are insane,,, There is a lot of abuse towards women especially fgm but there are many strong women who prefer chastity

a_father

Jen I don't compare you with a frog. It's just a comparison of two processes. If you place a frog into cold water and increase the temperature very slowly, the frog can't recognize this. The frog dies without remarking that it becomes worse and worse. With most girls here it's similar. It starts slowly and becomes more and more restrictive. Always in small steps. Nobody would accept all restrictions from the beginning, but in the end it's very bad. The trick is, to increase restrictions step by step and not immediately. To avoid this, you can only stop it in the beginning.

Vanessa

Angelina i don't think he is aggressive and yes he is very stubborn in his opinion but there are things we disagree on but can discuss anyway

But he's not very open to discussing.Only want to impose his opinion.

Max9

a_father or just make a concrete defineted "treaty" that can't be changed over time for the worse

Joh

a_father It starts slowly and becomes more and more restrictive. Always in small steps. Nobody would accept all restrictions from the beginning, but in the end it's very bad. The trick is, to increase restrictions step by step and not immediately. To avoid this, you can only stop it in the beginning.

The comparison with the frog is true, but it is a cruel example.
This approach is known as Salami tactics and you find an explanation at Wikipedia.

Resume your situation and think about if it happen to you. I got the impression it have been often.

Angelina

a_father It starts slowly and becomes more and more restrictive.

i agree with you in general, but i also have to say that it doesn't have to be that way. i have already had smaller relaxations as at the beginning and will have more relaxations in july after my birthday, so it works the other way round too 😉

Megan

a_father . If you place a frog into cold water and increase the temperature very slowly, the frog can't recognize this. The frog dies without remarking that it becomes worse and worse. With most girls here it's similar. It starts slowly and becomes more and more restrictive. Always in small steps. Nobody would accept all restrictions from the beginning, but in the end it's very bad. The trick is, to increase restrictions step by step and not immediately. To avoid this, you can only stop it in the beginning.

That experiment was always drugged or lobotomized frogs not healthy frogs. Healthy frogs still get out if they feel warm way before the pot is boiling. I agree with both in a way.
I love my belts even if they are a bit much sometimes and I would want those accessible to me.
However I really don't think there is any reason for the other restraints or the bras or thigh bands. I have never seen those in real life and I think that they are a waste of effort.

@a_father do you know anyways to shut down FGM or places like that? Everyone here could unite against the worst things while they figure their own lives out...

a_father

Angelina We'll see in July.

Angelina

a_father

we will, I will prepare for it and as soon as I know more, I will report to you 😉

James

Vanessa But he's not very open to discussing.Only want to impose his opinion.

I did invite him to be a brave man and ask his daughter and wife if they agree. Not even brave enough to reply, he is.

Angelina

Vanessa But he's not very open to discussing.Only want to impose his opinion.

he should become a politician 😂

i know i'm not going to convince him, but i'm interested in why he thinks differently than most people here.

Vanessa

James

Yes,he only ignore it.Probably not able to answer,yes.

Megan my belts

You have several ones?

Angelina that's exactly what my father thinks

And I guess my parents too...

Angelina long talks with my father and even after that i won't be completely free but maybe get some relaxations 🙂

Would be the case in some months,after the next talk about changing the rules,right?

Joh Yes, no thighs band and bra. That would be a great achievement.

It seems it is her objective,or wearing these less often,yes.

a_father

Angelina i know i'm not going to convince him, but i'm interested in why he thinks differently than most people here.

It's vice versa. I think like almost all people think. You are the minority in the 'real world', not I. And you know, that I'm right. Not supporting chastiry belts and still staying here makes me to an unicorn. But just here, everywhere else I'm mainstream.

Laura

Angelina he should become a politician

He wouldn't because "Politics is the art of the possible" and he definitely weak in this art 😂

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