Tattoos , piercings and chastity

Max9

Tobbe maybe the "new rich" people, but not within the old crew for sure

Angelina

Max9 I know, there are some "black sheeps" ... just like Princess Xenia of Saxony and Prince Marcus of Anhalt, who took part in some reality TV shows... ok, she also was given the nickname the "Slut princess" by the press long before that..

so compared to the two, i can behave more like a princess , impossible people 😂

Max9 Imagine Queen Elisabeth II. having a one of that arm-coverimg dragon tatoos...

🤣 🤣 🤣

Max9 maybe the "new rich" people, but not within the old crew for sure

that's true, in the past tatoos and piercings were more likely to be found in the lower social classes, but today they are no longer a "status symbol" and have found their way into the middle and even the upper classes (even if not to Queen Elisabeth 😉 ).

Max9

Angelina It might have found its was to the new rich people and the middle class, the new upper part of the lower class, but within the conservative old upper class it can't be found

Vanessa

Max9 yeah, I know. But not propperly ... you will see that there was something before ... ok, not always, but in not too few cases ...

Yes,not perfect.

Angelina

At my age,it should be ok,however...

HHelen

Not surprising!😉

Tobbe

I agree.

Max9 the kind being made wirh some little diamonds that is attached to the belly

I would like it,but forbidden.

Tobbe

I think so,too.

Max9 the conservative old upper class it can't be found

More because they're conservative than because they are of the upper class.

Angelina

Max9 but within the conservative old upper class it can't be found

i agree with you about conservatives, but not all conservatives are upper class and not all in the upper class are conservative 😉

Vanessa More because they're conservative than because they are of the upper class.

that's exactly what I think too 🙂

HHelen

Angelina so you wouldn't allow your daughter to do it even if she was 18?

I would allow but would be against it.

Angelina

HHelen I would allow but would be against it.

then we are in agreement on this point that is exactly how I would act with my daughter. 😉

Vanessa

HHelen

Do you think it would make her hesitate to do it?

HHelen

Vanessa Do you think it would make her hesitate to do it?

I hope that my opinion matters.

Angelina

HHelen I hope that my opinion matters.

i think it depends on the body part. if you as a mother see this body part, your opinion will play a role. if it is a body part that only the partner sees, your opinion is rather unimportant.

Vanessa

Angelina

I agree.

The image used for the tattoo may play a role,too.

Angelina

Vanessa The image used for the tattoo may play a role,too.

yes, that's what i meant when i said it might look like gollum later on 😂

Vanessa

Angelina

That's not what I meant.

For example, a heart,or a fairy,could be more accepted than a name,or a skull.

Angelina

Vanessa For example, a heart,or a fairy,could be more accepted than a name,or a skull.

That can be, whereby it depends on the "scene" in which you are travelling. 😉

Max9

Angelina that's right. In the left-wing lower class, as you can find it in Berlin, ... the one with the green hairs, black clothing and working boots and a million nacklaces ... there suchs lings liks a bead - bone can be found very ofen on the skin...

Vanessa

Angelina

Right.But,more generally,it is more accepted,I think.

Angelina

Max9

but i wouldn't put it down to social classes. i have friends from the goth scene who also have tattoos, but these friends are not lower class but rather from the middle class.

Angelina

Vanessa Right.But,more generally,it is more accepted,I think.

Yes, I agree with you

Ines

I believe that @Max9 is relatively right.
In general the girls of bourgeois class have more respect about classic canon of beauty.
It is not absolute, but, it is quite general.
The more cultured we are, in general, we have more care about us, and you will see less orange hair, strange piercings, hair in armpits...
Less cultured people, in general, tend to be more usual to you "disguised" to street.

Vanessa

Ines In general the girls of bourgeois class have more respect about classic canon of beauty.
It is not absolute, but, it is quite general.
The more cultured we are, in general, we have more care about us, and you will see less orange hair, strange piercings, hair in armpits...

Don't you think it can be due to their families,and how they want their daughters to be?

Maybe stricter rules about it,or similar...

Ines

Vanessa
Yes, I think exactly the same.
I can see it right now in university, less cultured people (even in university) is more vulnerable to "propaganda" and easy slogans (patriarchy is the devil, women are victims...) and become soldiers in stupids' revolution ( occident is not all fantastic,but,in general is good however we can need some reforms), and secondly, and to boost self-steem usually are people with a lot of complex, (even in aspect), and as be beauty need effort ( hairdressing, shaving, perfumes, heels...), they state that all of these are patriarchy obligations and paint the hair of green and they say that are antifa or anti-sistem, it is easier that wake up 40 minutes earlier to makeup.
So they go together and every nice and polite girl is a slave...
I am not a princess, but I like to look well.

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