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markules

Do you use lubricant to put on the cage?
How does it feel to be locked for half a year?
Do you drip a lot (leak precum)?
Which tips would you give a chastity beginner?

Again, thank you very much for giving me so much information!!!::

Jonas

markules Again, thank you very much for giving me so much information!!!::

Yeah, it's very enlightening and Nate seems to have such a positive attitude about it all. Very inspirational. Thank you for your questions too!

Nate

markules No problem 😉, I somewhat like talking about the cage, but it's not so easy, as you can't casually tell this to a friend IRL ...

Yeah, just a little bit and only when putting it on; I'm already used to the cage. When I was newly caged, I needed to lubricate it much more.
You get absolutely crazy horny, especially as a fifteen-year-old teenager. Some say that you become used to it after a few months, but that wasn't my case. I thought about it several times a day and I would do anything for an orgasm. My parents didn't want to hear about releases, since it was also my punishment for trying to get out. The last month, I even begged Jake (who always made fun of me for being caged) to help me somehow, but the best we did was heavy leaking.
I leaked a lot, but it became a lot better now that I milk myself weekly. I still leak though, but mostly just when I get "hard" or overnight.
Always start slow and check it often. Most cages are designed well, but still, humans were not originally designed for this. There is a lot that can go wrong. Also, a urethra that is not one-piece (e.g. plastic tube, but with some metal cap) is a big no-no as it can somehow apparently get loose and remain inside your penis (disclaimer: this told me my uncle, who works at emergency).

Jonas

Nate I'm glad that I ended up being locked. I stopped focusing on masturbation and being horny made the sports better.

I think this is very true.

Orgasm is such a huge payoff but masturbation short-circuits the whole reward system.

We seem to be meant to work on ourselves, get out there, attract and hold on to a partner. All of this requires effort but also gives us life.

Self-pleasuring requires none of this, so leads to a much smaller existence.

Nate

Jonas

That's also why we decided with my boyfriend to reduce the frequency of my orgasms from once a month to once per two months. It may initially seem like a bad thing for me, but I'm glad I actually have a "me" who knows chastity is good.

There was no clear distinction between "just a cleaning" and a "release" beforehand and they never talked about it this way.

When they wanted to give me a release, they would take my cage off and go, I would go shower, do the job, then wash the cage and call them to put it back on.
When they didn't, they took my cage off, washed it while I would shower my privates, then they would lock me again and go, and I would finish the shower.

Jonas

Nate However, they did punish me by cancelling a planned release.

Harsh. Was this spoken about openly or was it framed as missing a cleaning break?

Jonas

Nate The original point of me being locked wasn't a reward/punishment system, but to prevent me from masturbating. That's why it's not designed as such.

To me, masturbation is giving myself a massive reward for essentially doing nothing. So, yeah, I would agree that putting a stop to this is a worthy aim (for me) in of itself... like Max9 says...

Max9 is being chaste empowering enough

However, I think the next level (for me personally) could be using the body's reward system to help achieve my life goals. It's like we said about sports - chastity can drive you to achieve:

Nate I would do anything for an orgasm.

I wouldn't view such a system as punishment for rule breaking or failure to make the grade, I'd see it as only allowing myself a reward when I've actually done something that merits it. ....and even then I wouldn't personally go as far as to actually orgasm, ...at this point in my life of chastity any sexual stimulation at all lights up the whole console!!

Also, what would be quite a problem in your suggestion is setting goals that would actually be meaningful for me and somehow trackable.

I dunno. At my age weight and steps are simple measurable goals. As they say, if you can measure it, you can manage it!

Jonas

Nate we decided with my boyfriend to reduce the frequency of my orgasms from once a month to once per two months.

Thinking of oragasm as part of the body's reward system again, would it be better to have releases dependent on achieving goals rather than regularly once every 2 months?

Again it could be a powerful motivator.

Max9

Jonas that's true, it would definitely be... but do you need even mlre motivation, or is being chaste empowering enough?

Nate

Jonas

The original point of me being locked wasn't a reward/punishment system, but to prevent me from masturbating. That's why it's not designed as such.

Of course, since I was already wearing the cage, it
became a convinient system for my parents (my bf obviously doesn't use that) to punish me (and now Jake).

Also, what would be quite a problem in your suggestion is setting goals that would actually be meaningful for me and somehow trackable.

Nate

Jonas

So, if I understand you right, you mean something like being allowed only if I do something substantial instead of skipping a regular orgasm as a punishment? Well, I'm pretty sure my boyfriend wouldn't like that a lot for obvious reasons 😃 ...

As for the goals - workout isn't exactly something I need to improve, and floorball goals wouldn't be fair, as I can't affect the performance of our opponents. If I really struggled with something (being it school, weight or anything else), then it would make perfect sense for me.

Jonas

Well, I kept instinctively putting my hands in my boxer briefs, trying to masturbate, only to find a plastic cage there and getting more frustrated. Of course, when it tried to get hard, it was awfully uncomfortable. There were even times when I got really desperate and tried humping the bed, but I couldn't feel anything, and Jake could laugh his butt off.

My parents checked on me regularly the first days to make sure I didn't have any problems while wearing the cage. I was told to lubricate around the ring several times a day, so it was fine except for the initial sizing issue.

I couldn't really sleep the first few nights; I kept getting hard and could only think of the cage. I think I really slept just about 4 hours each day. Luckily, I was locked on Friday after school, and the following Monday and Tuesday were free, so I didn't have to go out caged right away.

Seeing it now, both going 5 months without release and the first locked nights were absolutely horrible, each in its unique way.

Jonas

One thing I notice about your experience, @Nate, is how suddenly things changed for you. One moment you were free to do what you wanted all day, the next moment you're wearing a chastity cage. That's quite an adjustment to make, how did you deal with it?

I gradually inched my way into complete chastity over years. I am not sure how I would have reacted if someone had just handed me a cage. I was thinking before about the embarrassment I'd feel if someone had found out that I have a problem with masturbation, but now I'm thinking more of how difficult those first nights would be. Which was worse for you, the 5 months going without or those first few nights?

youdontknowme

Nate My parents gave me Jake's key for hygiene reasons because we live far away and only go home once a month. I was told it's for cleaning and that I can give him one more release each month (but I don't really do that), so he gets his release once a month at home.

I hope you are communicating openly about that, it would probably suck for Jake if your parents are thinking he gets his monthly release with you and does not need that opportunity when he comes home.

Nate Yeah, I absolutely died of embarrassment (but luckily got resurrected 🤣). It might seem weird to say, but I'm actually glad it happened.

Did they learn about the reasons behind it quickly? I would think the questions it raises would be one of the most awkward parts of getting outed.

Nate

youdontknowme

Well, good point, I didn't tell them. However, I know that Jake is getting his releases at home because he always complains to me when he gets punished and has to stay locked.

I fortunately managed to dodge the question about why exactly was I wearing the cage. However, I told the guys everything else, because at the moment, I was more shocked than embarrassed to actually make something up and it turned out well.

Jonas

Nate Yeah, that does sound really difficult. Not least with your bro laughing. Yet you've come out the other end pro-chastity which is remarkable. I guess you went 'cold turkey' which is always tough... If that's how you see it of course... I do tend to think I was genuinely addicted, but others see it differently in their own situations.

What I want to know is why couldn't I have a cool addiction?! 😅 I mean none of them are any good, but this one is really embarrassing to me.

Still all sorted out now... And maybe it can be used to reward a bit of self-improvement in the future.

youdontknowme

Nate I fortunately managed to dodge the question about why exactly was I wearing the cage. However, I told the guys everything else

Hope you do not mind me picking a bit more into this, but it makes me wonder what they do know. I am particularly curious about whether they know about the hardly voluntary nature of the agreement. I wonder whether it would be more awkward to be caught voluntarily or involuntarily locked, Because I feel it would be easy to get the pervert reputation either way. Either you are the guy who has so much trouble keeping it in his pants that someone else had to keep the boy parts in line, or you are the guy who wants to wear bondage gear in public. I feel like without some cool cover story like a solemn vow or a symbol of your commitment to a significant other, you cannot really win either way.

markules

Hey @Nate,
thank you for answering my questions in such detail, that helps me a lot. I can understand that you cannot talk to many people in real life. If it is ok with you I would like to ask you a few further questions:

Who knows about your chastity cage?
When you have an erection does it hurt?
Why do you not have a metal cage?
If you had an emergency key for your device, would you have sufficient control not to open your cage?
Have you ever had rashes and what do you do about it?
Are you chastity-postitive now?
Do your parents/friends make jokes about your chastity?

Nate

markules

Jake, my boyfriend, all teammates from floorball and a few good friends. Except that, I try to keep it private as much as possible.
No. Frankly, I can't get an erection in the cage since it's the size as I am when flaccid. When I try to get erect, it feels unpleasant as it doesn't have space to grow.
My parents got the transparent plastic cage so I could see through. This helped especially in the beginning, so I could see there wasn't something bad going on. Now that we've decided with Jake to get the new HolyTrainers, we're going for metal.
Maybe ... and now honestly: not really. Sometimes when I feel very horny, I admit that I might not have the control. But I don't need the emergency key, since I live about 15 mins from my boyfriend and my parents have a spare key when I'm at home.
I might seem strange to say, but I didn't. The key is proper ring size and lubricate whenever you feel sore. After you get used to wearing it, you will only need to lubricate sometimes after showering or after sports.
Mostly, yes.
My parents never did that, and we talked about the cage only when necessary. On the other hand, my teammates and friends do make jokes about it from time to time. And Jake, who initially made fun of me being caged, well I have his key now (karma does work 😃).

Lukas

markules
To answer your questions as simple as possible:

My parents, my sister, my ex girlfriend and me, as far as I can say.
Depends. If the erection isn't for long it doesn't hurt, but generally speaking, the longer I'm errect, the more it hurts.
I don't know. I didn't buy the cage, I don't want to wear it and I don't have any say in which cage I have to wear.
No, I wouldn't have what you call sufficient control. But that's not up for debate anyway because I don't have an emergency key and even if I had one, I couldn't use it because the lock is sealed and my parents would know that I broke the seal/unlocked.
No
Hell no, I still hate it as much as the first day.
No.

markules

@Lukas Hello Lukas, greetings from Austria. May I kindly ask for your opinion for these questions I asked Nate. I would like to have a second opinion before I start my chastity journey. If you do not want to answer a question, please just skip it. Of course you do not have to answer all question, but may I ask you to answer as much as possible? Thank you very much in advance!

Nate

youdontknowme

They mostly asked about what it is and how it worked because they never heard about chastity cages and had never seen one. Surprisingly, although I immediately pulled my boxer briefs back on, they wanted to see it again.

Of course, they also wanted to know how I could masturbate in that (I obviously couldn't) and if and how frequently I was released. I also remember one of them saying jokingly something along the lines "I would like to see you getting hard with that".

I eventually told them that I was locked by my parents and that there was a good reason for it, but fortunately, I managed to avoid explaining my excessive masturbation etc. I can't know whether they really think I am cool or a total pervert, but what's important is that they didn't react badly.

markules

Nate Hey Nate, thank you again for your answers.
I'd have a few more questions, if I may

Would there have been any chance for your brother not to get caged?
What behaviour does your brother show when his release is denied? Which "crimes" has he done already?
Have you ever had an intimate experience apart from your boyfriend?

Looking forward

Jonas

Nate Now that we've decided with Jake to get the new HolyTrainers, we're going for metal.

I wonder if the weight of metal ones will be too much? Part of the benefit of the holy trainer is that you can almost forget it's installed.

Nate And Jake, who initially made fun of me being caged, well I have his key now (karma does work 😃).

I can't help wondering if this influences your decisions in regard to his breaks. Either way has he too come around to the idea of chastity?

Nate I eventually told them that I was locked by my parents and that there was a good reason for it, but fortunately, I managed to avoid explaining my excessive masturbation etc. I can't know whether they really think I am cool or a total pervert, but what's important is that they didn't react badly.

On balance, yeah, I'd also be more embarrassed about the reason for the device than the device itself. Chastity belts look kinda cool, and Amazon is awash with the things so they're increasingly accepted, but excessive wanking isn't cool and never will be! 🤣

youdontknowme

Nate
One more question that comes to my mind, I assume the cage swap is coordinated with your parents, and they will not be surprised when they see Jake come home for his release with a shinier cage than he left with last time?

youdontknowme

markules Would you go into the sauna (where everyone is naked) or a nudist beach?

Just a word of advice, with how frequently those devices are being marketed as sex toys (and you could argue that with Nate's boyfriend holding the key at the moment, that is at least part of the role it plays), and nudists typically frown upon anything remotely sexual going on at nude venues - quite a number of clubs go so far as to ban genital jewelry. Public beaches are generally less strict, but anything worn on the penis is not going to make you many friends. As far as I know, venues catering to the gay community are often clothing optional and a bit more open-minded with stuff relating to sexual expression, so you may have better luck there if you want to enjoy social (mostly-)nudity while wearing a chastity device.

Nate I eventually told them that I was locked by my parents and that there was a good reason for it

Were there any memorable reactions to that particular revelation? Just going down this path because I had always imagined the fact that you gave away control of your sexuality would be much harder to explain than the device itself (which seems to have gone over rather well from what I gather from your story).

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