Male keyholder

markules

1. Yes, but it would have meant picking a secondary school closer to home, so he wouldn't have to live in the dorms. However, there's no nearby secondary school in his field.
   Note: since each country has unique school systems, by secondary school, I mean 10th to 14th school year.

2. Usually getting bad grades or a write-up, being lazy or something like that.

3. No, I didn't.

markules

1. If I knew that everyone there was okay with it (highly unlikely), then I still probably wouldn't. If not, then definitely wouldn't. Besides, I never particularly enjoyed being nude.

2. With Jake, we're both cut because of a medical condition.

3. I told him after some time. Since he is my boyfriend, he would discover sooner or later. I see it only as fair to tell him personally.

4. I brought my boyfriend home to introduce him personally. Then we discussed I need to somehow clean when I'm away, and giving keys to my boyfriend seemed like the best choice. Sometime after, we changed the arrangement that my boyfriend would give me releases etc., and my parents would have just a "spare" key, so I could clean at home.

5. They are far from happy, but they accept the way it is.

6. When I'm home at the end of the month, they unlock me so I can clean, so they see that I'm still locked.

About the emergency kit, I used to carry some lubricant the first months but mostly didn't use it about the emergency kit. Now I only take it when doing sports.

youdontknowme

I don't remember any reaction that stood out. But I do remember that there was time pressure since the training was starting, so that saved me from a lot of questioning.

markules

Despite plastic, it's still highly visible when you're naked. In underwear, it's small enough that anyone who doesn't know about cages or doesn't look carefully won't even notice. So the material and colour don't make a difference for me.

Jonas

Yeah, I wonder myself what the weight difference will be. Therese are HolyTrainers (although not official), so I think it should mostly be fine.

I never thought about this, but probably not. I decided not to give Jake any releases (except for some occasions, like when he had birthday) because he can have one at home each month. Also, I don't know if he already understood the idea of chastity, but I know he still hates it.

Well, maybe we would be surprised how many teenagers have problems with excessive masturbation, but nobody puts them in cages and they don't even know about it.

Hey Nate, again thank you for your quick reply.

1. What disadvantages do you have from wearing the cage?
   (apart from not being able to masturbate, if you see this as disadvantage)
2. Do erections hurt in the cage?
3. Has your skin adapted to the cage? Is adaptation even possible?
4. Who has ever seen your chastity device?
5. When you talk about it, how do you call it?
6. Do you have sudden ejaculations?
7. Why did your parents lock you for months when the cage was first given to you?
   How did you feel about this and did you know when you would be unlocked?
8. Have you/your parents ever considered a waist belt?
9. Is you HolyTrainer original or a china copy?
   I ask because I can only afford those fake cages.
10. Have you ever used a tranquilizer or drugs to calm you down from wearing the cage?
11. Will you also get a metal cage?
12. Do you take it off when you're at a doctor such as a urologist where you're naked?
13. Would your parents or your boyfriend unlock you if you wanted to have penetrative sex?
14. Do you think all boys should wear a cage?
    For example: as punishment or only certain groups of boys (e.g.: boys that masturbate too much)
15. If yes, at what age?
16. How long did it take until you got used to the chastity device/did not feel it anymore?
17. Why do you not like releasing your brother?
18. Do you consider chastity as a method of contraception?

Thank you for responding to 18 questions. Please take all the time you need. I hope you don't mind me asking all of this. If you do not want to answer, please skip the question or tell me

Nate Yeah, I wonder myself what the weight difference will be. Therese are HolyTrainers (although not official), so I think it should mostly be fine.

Hmmm. I'd be interested to know. The only similar one I ever tried was far too heavy, but then I needed it not to pull down too much because it was secured by my pa piercing.

I don't know if he already understood the idea of chastity, but I know he still hates it.

I'm amazed that he's never asked you to use your spare key and leave the device off when you're away!

Well, maybe we would be surprised how many teenagers have problems with excessive masturbation, but nobody puts them in cages and they don't even know about it.

I wonder if people mostly grow out it or it continues in secret as it did for me.

markules

1. You have to get used to it and don't forget it's there, otherwise, you might accidentally show it e.g. in the gym. Doing hygiene is harder, and sleeping on your belly is not particularly comfortable.

2. (copy-paste, from an older post) No. Frankly, I can't get an erection in the cage since it's the size as I am when flaccid. When I try to get erect, it feels unpleasant as it doesn't have space to grow.

3. Yes, but it's not 100%. There are still situations when I need to lubricate around the ring, like after doing sports.

4. (also a copy-pasta) Jake, my boyfriend, all teammates from floorball and a few good friends. Except that, I try to keep it private as much as possible.

5. Most often, just a "cage", no special name for it.

6. I can hardly call that sudden; it's either at night or when I get extremely aroused. Since I began to milk myself regularly, it has become better.

7. As a punishment, because I tried to escape from the cage. I didn't know when I would be released because there was no release schedule (just cleaning).

8. Definitely not. It's far heavier, and you can't hide it very well.

9. It's an original. However, the new metal ones are copies.

10. No, never.

11. Yeah, they should actually arrive tomorrow!

12. Yes, but it's removed before I go in, and I'm relocked immediately after, so I can't cheat on the way there.

13. Not my parents, since we agreed that their key is a "spare" for cleaning. I think my boyfriend would, but it would count as a release.

14. Well, it would definitely be interesting if all teenagers and young adults were locked.

15. About 14 could be a good age to start.

16. Three weeks until I no longer had to care for it (health reasons), and a month or two since I stopped feeling it strange.

17. He can get his release at the end of the month when we're at home.

18. Not really, given my situation. But that's why Jake has to wear it!

Jonas

Well, I'll see tomorrow when the cages arrive.

Of course Jake nearly always asks not to re-lock him again. But we both know that if our parents discovered, we would be in trouble.

Nate Well, I'll see tomorrow when the cages arrive.

Best of luck to you!

Nate Well, it would definitely be interesting if all teenagers and young adults were locked.

I guess the best part for you would be that if chastity were normal, you would have a lot less to hide about it.

One more question about dealing with embarassment, I assume any family that practices some form of enforced chastity will not have many issues with bathroom privacy or nudity in front of other family members (unless every unlock is also a release). But I wonder, on your non-release unlocks, would your washing be closely supervised or would it just be a case of "someone is in the room and even if they were not, you would not have much time to cheat anyway"? Does the fact that your primary keyholder is your significant other make hygiene releases more comfortable? Did you have to get used to the loss of privacy?

Personally, when I lived with my parents (and chastity was not in the picture back then), I had no trouble being naked in front of them, and the bathroom door was unlocked unless visitors were over. I did not mind family members in the room while showering, except for washing between my legs, I usually spent time on other body parts until they left.

youdontknowme

When I was unlocked for cleaning (without a release), my parents took the cage off, and while I was showering, they were cleaning the cage, so they were still in the bathroom. After that, I was re-locked.

Yeah, it's definitely better now when my boyfriend has the keys. He sometimes even helps me with my prostate milking. And about the privacy ... it's the same with me ... we never made a big deal of being naked.

Nate So basically, not directly under anyone's gaze, but someone was close enough that your chances of getting caught were high enough that the risk was not worth it.

As for how your boyfriend taking over as your main keyholder changed things, I am particularly curious about the non-release unlocks (though I also completely understand if those details are too personal to share). Is it very different with him? I assume there are things that you might do in the shower with a lover that you would not do with a parent or other family member. And does he trust you more to "behave" because you are abstaining from masturbation to make him happy about as much as you are because you are ordered to?

Nate r, and sleeping on your belly is not particularly comfortable

yes, that's true. But this only applies to cages

Nate
One more question that comes to my mind, I assume the cage swap is coordinated with your parents, and they will not be surprised when they see Jake come home for his release with a shinier cage than he left with last time?

markules
To answer your questions as simple as possible:

1. My parents, my sister, my ex girlfriend and me, as far as I can say.
2. Depends. If the erection isn't for long it doesn't hurt, but generally speaking, the longer I'm errect, the more it hurts.
3. I don't know. I didn't buy the cage, I don't want to wear it and I don't have any say in which cage I have to wear.
4. No, I wouldn't have what you call sufficient control. But that's not up for debate anyway because I don't have an emergency key and even if I had one, I couldn't use it because the lock is sealed and my parents would know that I broke the seal/unlocked.
5. No
6. Hell no, I still hate it as much as the first day.
7. No.

Any news on your metal HolyTrainers @Nate?

Lukas my ex girlfriend

oh, you have separated, I didn't know that, I am very sorry for you

Lukas because I don't have an emergency key

you should have one, not one that you can always reach (your parents probably don't want that), but one that is maybe like mine in a safe so that you can unlock yourself in case of emergency.

Jonas I am sure he will share his experiences as soon as he visits the forum again, but knowing what it is like to be a boy with a new toy, I do not blame him for not reporting his first impressions right away.

Angelina

Lukas my ex girlfriend

oh, you have separated, I didn't know that, I am very sorry for you

Sad to hear that indeed. No need to tell, but I wonder what happened. If the cage played a role in it, or if it may have protected you against unwarranted hastiness.

youdontknowme

Well, not directly under anyone's gaze, but if I started masturbating in the shower, it could be easily seen through the translucent door ...

As for my boyfriend, he also never leaves when my cage is off. However, we usually wash the cage first, and then I go to shower re-locked, so I can give myself a milking. He usually helps me with that.

Max9

True, but I've always been in a cage.

youdontknowme

Yeah, we actually asked my parents for their opinion, because we wanted to make sure that we won't screw anything by going metal or buying a knock-off from China.

Jonas

Hi again ... my semester was starting this Monday, so I needed quite a lot of time to get through everything.

When the cage arrived, my boyfriend and I immediately went to try the metal cage. It's quite heavy compared to what I originally thought or was in the description, but so far, it has been great. I already managed to go with it on my floorball training, and I noticed two things: the v4 ring is a lot better, I didn't need to lube it afterwards; on the other hand, you need way tighter underwear because of the added weight.

I changed Jake to the new cage today. When we were ordering the cage, he seemed quite happy about it, but now he was absolutely shocked about the weight. Despite that, he's now in the metal one and will have to get used to it (or ask parents, which I doubt will change anything).

Angelina I am very sorry for you

Me too...

Angelina you should have one

I agree.

Nate Well, not directly under anyone's gaze, but if I started masturbating in the shower, it could be easily seen through the translucent door ...

And the noise would probably attract the attention of anyone in the room and you would not have enough time to finish between glances anyway, even if you do have a reason to have your hands in that general area.

Nate As for my boyfriend, he also never leaves when my cage is off. However, we usually wash the cage first, and then I go to shower re-locked, so I can give myself a milking. He usually helps me with that.

I would have imagined doing the milking first and the cage wash later would be more hygienic. Also, where does the "washing under the cage" take place in that arrangement. Sponge bath or two showers?

I wonder how often you (or Jake for that matter) get to wear pants with no cage. Probably a fairly rare exception for someone locked 24/7 with only cleaning breaks.

youdontknowme

Yeah, you're right. About the cleaning, it's not always the same. Also, since I'm circumcised, it's fairly easy to wash even when inside the cage.

Since we're locked 24/7, I have never worn pants with no cage since I got locked. And I suppose neither have Jake. However, we've already gotten used to it.

Jonas

It's not about parents being convinced or not; it was our decision to switch to metal. However, they would be angry if Jake didn't even try the metal cage because we wanted it they paid for it. Of course, if he wanted to switch back later on, or the metal one caused some problems, it would be no problem.