Male keyholder

Megan

hornyaspie2 From I here that thing happens in the Polish prison on prisoners guilty of abusing kids in anyway let alone sexually

In the united states that has a very high chance of happening to some people even if they did NOT actually abuse their kids. The charges could read "involvement with a minor" for things like missing school as part of a side charge that they weren't even arrested for but then it still reads "minor" on the paperwork. Sometimes it is made up because prisoners wanted to fight anyway.

I have already said that forced abusive chastity IS abuse and there are a lot of Troll stories which shouldn't be written on the internet. But my owning chastity when I was you was NOT abusive.

@hornyaspie2 please be supportive of people who want help and be hard on trolls. But please don't mix the two together for entertainment. Thank you

Angelina

hornyaspie2 And what was questionable on my post agree even trough I might be a little bit over the top 😄

you figured it out yourself, this "over the top" is my problem. i may be a bit sensitive about it, but i think we can write politely without violent fantasies or strong language. 😉

Joh This part is not ok. It is a call for an act of violence and cannot be accepted to appear here.

thank you for understanding why I criticised it 🙂

hornyaspie2 But I think warden did right it's KARMA b.. 😃

no, it is a crime. we are no longer in the middle ages. the saying eye for an eye no longer exists, even if someone has committed a crime, that does not give anyone the right to do likewise.

hornyaspie2

Angelina
I'm gay but chastity device both male and female one make my horny even if I'm not wearing one ;-)
But I think that if someone wearing it voluntarily and without coercion, I think it's ok even for teenagers as long it's not forced by some narcissistic parents or abusive spouse

You are right we aren't live in middle ages but I think that some people deserve prison gang bang for what they did😜

Joh

hornyaspie2 You are right we aren't live in middle ages but I think that some people deserve prison gang bang for what they did

You may think it but it is not okay to demand them or to present them as justified. This can quickly lead to someone believing they are right to put it into practice.

Angelina

hornyaspie2 I'm gay but chastity device both male and female one make my horny even if I'm not wearing one ;-)
But I think that if someone wearing it voluntarily and without coercion, I think it's ok even for teenagers as long it's not forced by some narcissistic parents or abusive spouse

i think so too, i am bisexual and in a lesbian relationship and you are welcome to express your opinion, but please in a factual and polite tone 🙂
and please no violent fantasies

Megan

hornyaspie2 I'm gay but chastity device both male and female one make my horny even if I'm not wearing one ;-)

Well okay thanks for being honest about why you're here and you understand that it takes the Real People a lot of effort and can change what you do in life...

Megan

hornyaspie2 I'm gay but chastity device both male and female one make my horny even if I'm not wearing one ;-)

Angelina i think so too,

I am probably going to regret asking this 😅 but there are so many young gay people here who write about chastity but don't really have any experience...
Buuuuuuut why is chastity exciting and please don't leave a large offensive story.
I am guessing the older trolls like chastity where they can sort of 'own' a wife but IDK why young gay men would like female chastity.
I can tell my husband still doesn't really like keyholding that much, at least it doesn't scare him anymore. IDK

hornyaspie2

Joh
What do you mean? It's just a thought.

Joh

hornyaspie2 It's just a thought.

With a thought all starts and if you not care what the consequence can be it will make it own way to the worse.
How do you think all hate speech started?

Angelina

Megan

i have my theory why gay men are interested in chastity belts just like transsexuals, because they can't cope with their own sexuality or better said they get talked into it by society. a big problem if you ask me

Joh How do you think all hate speech started?

i would be a little careful about that, the lines between freedom of speech and hate speech can sometimes be blurred. but i agree with you that we should keep a polite tone. 🙂

hornyaspie2

Joh
Maybe you are right, as Hitler turned the Germans against the Jews for losing the First World War. Recently I read that in New Zealand they are going to introduce a gradual ban on smoking for people born after 2008, even when they turn 18, even though I am an enemy of smoking and I hate smokers neither there, in New Zealand I do not consider all kinds of prohibitions as stupid irresponsible ideas. One friend would say that it happened in our country, i.e. Poland, he would use it to create some extreme right-wing party that would convince young voters that they were deprived of their freedom to smoke and if they would help him become a "fuhrer", he would withdraw the smoking ban for them and will make a proscription list of all members of the Seym who originally voted for the ban and I will send them to a concentration camp that he is sure that young people would be willing to trade all our Polish democracy with all its privileges for a pack of cigarettes and he is sure that young New Zenlanders, British or even Americans, as if forbidding the younger generation to smoke them cigarettes and leaving the older one is like playing well with the hatred of the younger generation for the older one, you could take power in a given country :-)

Joh

Angelina i would be a little careful about that, the lines between freedom of speech and hate speech can sometimes be blurred. but i agree with you that we should keep a polite tone.

Yes, and we should be careful what we really say.

Megan

Angelina because they can't cope with their own sexuality or better said they get talked into it by society. a big problem if you ask me

I hope they respect themselves, maybe look for spiritual guidance if they are not religious .
Maye it's okay if they like chastity but everyone should be comfortable in their clothes and in their body

youdontknowme

Angelina From the gay boys and trans women in chastity I have seen, it is definitely not guilt that drives their interest in chastity. They tend to be fairly open and liberal about having sex, they just think their penis should play less of a role in it than it does for the average straight male.

Which makes sense when you think about it. Sorry for being a bit graphic here, but with traditional sex, it is the male doing all the penetrating. But if you have two males, or at least two people with penises irrespective of gender identity, in most positions only one of them can use their penis for penetrating. The other one just flops around, and if the couple has fixed roles, the sexual experience of one of the partners does not involve using their penis, so it is not that big of a leap of faith to be interested in... ahem... formalizing that.

Angelina

Joh Yes, and we should be careful what we really say.

yes, that too, but mainly how we say it and what words we use.

Megan Maye it's okay if they like chastity but everyone should be comfortable in their clothes and in their body

i agree, accepting yourself is the most important thing, if that doesn't happen, it's hard to be accepted by others too

youdontknowme

i think i understand this. the people here on the forum are also much more confident than those i have read about in fetish forums (at least that's how it seems to me) and yes there are physical challenges, unfortunately that can't be changed. for me sex is also a bit more difficult than with a man.

Nate

youdontknowme

I can agree quite a lot; I started to somewhat like chastity after getting a boyfriend. Before that, I was wearing it just because there was a good reason for it, but I didn't like it at all.

I definitely wouldn't say that penis play less of a role, but you're right we can obviously use just one of them. Maybe because of my prior experience with chastity, maybe just because I like it, I prefer my boyfriend to "do the job" and stay locked myself. Also, my boyfriend sometimes sets goals for me to get unlocked, which can really motivate me.

Nate

hornyaspie2

To clarify, I don't see this as too black-and-white as you might. For me, there is a distinction between forcing someone to wear the cage and making it absolutely optional.

They did NOT force it on me, as in the way:

they didn't hold me while putting it on
they didn't put it on me while sleeping
they didn't beat me until I agreed

... that would obviously be a clear abuse without further questions.

On the other hand, to wear it WAS hardly optional because:

they presented clear arguments why to wear it
didn't really ask me whether I wanted it or not
they already had the cage prepared
financial dependency ... uh, probably clear

... which I don't see as abusive (just ... not normal I guess?), as if something was really wrong, we could talk it out.
Do you still see that as abusive?

Also, I should mention again that my boyfriend has the keys now, and everything is optional (or at least, consensual).

carg

Nate they didn't beat me until I agreed

LOL, I read this the (obviously) wrong way at first: that they only started beating you after you agreed :-O

hornyaspie2

Nate
I don't understand why your parents insisted on this, you wrote that you were jerking a horse 5 times a day on average, which is a perfectly normal amount for a teenage boy or young man, unless you have done it in some strange places, then you should blame yourself a little; -) But still, I think your parents overdid it and shouldn't force you.

Nate

carg

Oh, I see now 😆
That was pretty stupid wording. English is not my native, sorry.

To clarify for everyone: they didn't beat me in order for me to agree to wear the cage

youdontknowme

carg sounds like a method to persuade a masochist into chastity: no beatings until you put the cage on.

Angelina

Nate To clarify for everyone: they didn't beat me in order for me to agree to wear the cage

I really hope they wouldn't have beaten you if you hadn't agreed, or?

carg

Nate That was pretty stupid wording. English is not my native, sorry.

I wouldn't say so: what you wrote also means what you meant to say. It is just open for two interpretations, and I just had to laugh at my mind for choosing the wrong one at first. Saying things that can also be interpreted differently will happen to native speakers just as well, so I wouldn't blame that on lack of proficiency in English.

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