Male keyholder

youdontknowme

Nate I fortunately managed to dodge the question about why exactly was I wearing the cage. However, I told the guys everything else

Hope you do not mind me picking a bit more into this, but it makes me wonder what they do know. I am particularly curious about whether they know about the hardly voluntary nature of the agreement. I wonder whether it would be more awkward to be caught voluntarily or involuntarily locked, Because I feel it would be easy to get the pervert reputation either way. Either you are the guy who has so much trouble keeping it in his pants that someone else had to keep the boy parts in line, or you are the guy who wants to wear bondage gear in public. I feel like without some cool cover story like a solemn vow or a symbol of your commitment to a significant other, you cannot really win either way.

Nate

youdontknowme

They mostly asked about what it is and how it worked because they never heard about chastity cages and had never seen one. Surprisingly, although I immediately pulled my boxer briefs back on, they wanted to see it again.

Of course, they also wanted to know how I could masturbate in that (I obviously couldn't) and if and how frequently I was released. I also remember one of them saying jokingly something along the lines "I would like to see you getting hard with that".

I eventually told them that I was locked by my parents and that there was a good reason for it, but fortunately, I managed to avoid explaining my excessive masturbation etc. I can't know whether they really think I am cool or a total pervert, but what's important is that they didn't react badly.

Nate

markules

Jake, my boyfriend, all teammates from floorball and a few good friends. Except that, I try to keep it private as much as possible.
No. Frankly, I can't get an erection in the cage since it's the size as I am when flaccid. When I try to get erect, it feels unpleasant as it doesn't have space to grow.
My parents got the transparent plastic cage so I could see through. This helped especially in the beginning, so I could see there wasn't something bad going on. Now that we've decided with Jake to get the new HolyTrainers, we're going for metal.
Maybe ... and now honestly: not really. Sometimes when I feel very horny, I admit that I might not have the control. But I don't need the emergency key, since I live about 15 mins from my boyfriend and my parents have a spare key when I'm at home.
I might seem strange to say, but I didn't. The key is proper ring size and lubricate whenever you feel sore. After you get used to wearing it, you will only need to lubricate sometimes after showering or after sports.
Mostly, yes.
My parents never did that, and we talked about the cage only when necessary. On the other hand, my teammates and friends do make jokes about it from time to time. And Jake, who initially made fun of me being caged, well I have his key now (karma does work 😃).

markules

Nate Hey Nate, thank you again for your answers.
I'd have a few more questions, if I may

Would there have been any chance for your brother not to get caged?
What behaviour does your brother show when his release is denied? Which "crimes" has he done already?
Have you ever had an intimate experience apart from your boyfriend?

Looking forward

Jonas

Nate Now that we've decided with Jake to get the new HolyTrainers, we're going for metal.

I wonder if the weight of metal ones will be too much? Part of the benefit of the holy trainer is that you can almost forget it's installed.

Nate And Jake, who initially made fun of me being caged, well I have his key now (karma does work 😃).

I can't help wondering if this influences your decisions in regard to his breaks. Either way has he too come around to the idea of chastity?

Nate I eventually told them that I was locked by my parents and that there was a good reason for it, but fortunately, I managed to avoid explaining my excessive masturbation etc. I can't know whether they really think I am cool or a total pervert, but what's important is that they didn't react badly.

On balance, yeah, I'd also be more embarrassed about the reason for the device than the device itself. Chastity belts look kinda cool, and Amazon is awash with the things so they're increasingly accepted, but excessive wanking isn't cool and never will be! 🤣

youdontknowme

Nate
One more question that comes to my mind, I assume the cage swap is coordinated with your parents, and they will not be surprised when they see Jake come home for his release with a shinier cage than he left with last time?

youdontknowme

markules Would you go into the sauna (where everyone is naked) or a nudist beach?

Just a word of advice, with how frequently those devices are being marketed as sex toys (and you could argue that with Nate's boyfriend holding the key at the moment, that is at least part of the role it plays), and nudists typically frown upon anything remotely sexual going on at nude venues - quite a number of clubs go so far as to ban genital jewelry. Public beaches are generally less strict, but anything worn on the penis is not going to make you many friends. As far as I know, venues catering to the gay community are often clothing optional and a bit more open-minded with stuff relating to sexual expression, so you may have better luck there if you want to enjoy social (mostly-)nudity while wearing a chastity device.

Nate I eventually told them that I was locked by my parents and that there was a good reason for it

Were there any memorable reactions to that particular revelation? Just going down this path because I had always imagined the fact that you gave away control of your sexuality would be much harder to explain than the device itself (which seems to have gone over rather well from what I gather from your story).

Nate

markules

Yes, but it would have meant picking a secondary school closer to home, so he wouldn't have to live in the dorms. However, there's no nearby secondary school in his field.
Note: since each country has unique school systems, by secondary school, I mean 10th to 14th school year.
Usually getting bad grades or a write-up, being lazy or something like that.
No, I didn't.

markules

If I knew that everyone there was okay with it (highly unlikely), then I still probably wouldn't. If not, then definitely wouldn't. Besides, I never particularly enjoyed being nude.
With Jake, we're both cut because of a medical condition.
I told him after some time. Since he is my boyfriend, he would discover sooner or later. I see it only as fair to tell him personally.
I brought my boyfriend home to introduce him personally. Then we discussed I need to somehow clean when I'm away, and giving keys to my boyfriend seemed like the best choice. Sometime after, we changed the arrangement that my boyfriend would give me releases etc., and my parents would have just a "spare" key, so I could clean at home.
They are far from happy, but they accept the way it is.
When I'm home at the end of the month, they unlock me so I can clean, so they see that I'm still locked.

About the emergency kit, I used to carry some lubricant the first months but mostly didn't use it about the emergency kit. Now I only take it when doing sports.

youdontknowme

I don't remember any reaction that stood out. But I do remember that there was time pressure since the training was starting, so that saved me from a lot of questioning.

markules

Despite plastic, it's still highly visible when you're naked. In underwear, it's small enough that anyone who doesn't know about cages or doesn't look carefully won't even notice. So the material and colour don't make a difference for me.

Jonas

Yeah, I wonder myself what the weight difference will be. Therese are HolyTrainers (although not official), so I think it should mostly be fine.

I never thought about this, but probably not. I decided not to give Jake any releases (except for some occasions, like when he had birthday) because he can have one at home each month. Also, I don't know if he already understood the idea of chastity, but I know he still hates it.

Well, maybe we would be surprised how many teenagers have problems with excessive masturbation, but nobody puts them in cages and they don't even know about it.

markules

@Nate Again some questions to fuel this conversation:

Would you go into the sauna (where everyone is naked) or a nudist beach?
Are you cut or uncut?
When and how did your boyfriend find out?
What was the conversation like when your parents gave him the key?
How do your parents accept your bisexuality?
Do your parents somehow check if you're really in chastity?

I have made a chastity emergency kit which includes:

Lidocaine 2% gel to numb portions of the skin that still hurt after treatment with a skin regenerating creme
Some petroleum jelly
The keys
A small bag in which nobody can see the cage as it is made.
A 7% Dexpanthenol creme
Long-term lubricant

Of course I only have very small amounts of each. It's a small bag I carry in my jean's pocket, but it has helped me a lot in situations that were critical with wearing a chastity cage. Does anyone have something comparable to this?

markules

youdontknowme You are absolutely right. I have decided/promised myself that I will not expose my chastity cage in public places such as a nudist beach. I just wanted to know if Nate could imagine doing that as he has a transparent chastity device. Thank you for your advice. I hope I understood it correctly

youdontknowme

I think even a transparent cage will still be fairly noticable even without close inspection. For one, having something around your genitals has a significant effect on how they "settle", so to speak. Especially since most cages are attached by what is essentially a penis-and-testicles ring (the common terminology is a bit more crude than that), which prevents the testicles from receding into the body and makes it more difficult for them to hang straight down. A scrotum that goes through a ring will hang differently from one that does not, and again, those rings, even (or especially, since that way promotes much more sexual activity) without a cage, are not seen as suitable nudist attire.

markules

youdontknowme I have exactly the same view on this topic as you. I would not want people to see my cage that haven't explicitly agreed. For me this could be counted as a mild form of sexual harassment. I honestly would not be "brave" enough to expose me in front of other people.

I would still say that a transparent cage may not attract as much attention as a black or pink cage. But of course you are right, that even a transparent cage makes the penis look different.

In case this question about the nudist beach wasn't appropriate I sincerely apologize

youdontknowme

markules Oh no, I would not say asking questions is ever inappropriate, I am merely trying to remind people to "know your audience" before revealing something that personal to them.

Jonas

Nate Yeah, I wonder myself what the weight difference will be. Therese are HolyTrainers (although not official), so I think it should mostly be fine.

Hmmm. I'd be interested to know. The only similar one I ever tried was far too heavy, but then I needed it not to pull down too much because it was secured by my pa piercing.

I don't know if he already understood the idea of chastity, but I know he still hates it.

I'm amazed that he's never asked you to use your spare key and leave the device off when you're away!

Well, maybe we would be surprised how many teenagers have problems with excessive masturbation, but nobody puts them in cages and they don't even know about it.

I wonder if people mostly grow out it or it continues in secret as it did for me.

markules

Hey Nate, again thank you for your quick reply.

What disadvantages do you have from wearing the cage?
(apart from not being able to masturbate, if you see this as disadvantage)
Do erections hurt in the cage?
Has your skin adapted to the cage? Is adaptation even possible?
Who has ever seen your chastity device?
When you talk about it, how do you call it?
Do you have sudden ejaculations?
Why did your parents lock you for months when the cage was first given to you?
How did you feel about this and did you know when you would be unlocked?
Have you/your parents ever considered a waist belt?
Is you HolyTrainer original or a china copy?
I ask because I can only afford those fake cages.
Have you ever used a tranquilizer or drugs to calm you down from wearing the cage?
Will you also get a metal cage?
Do you take it off when you're at a doctor such as a urologist where you're naked?
Would your parents or your boyfriend unlock you if you wanted to have penetrative sex?
Do you think all boys should wear a cage?
For example: as punishment or only certain groups of boys (e.g.: boys that masturbate too much)
If yes, at what age?
How long did it take until you got used to the chastity device/did not feel it anymore?
Why do you not like releasing your brother?
Do you consider chastity as a method of contraception?

Thank you for responding to 18 questions. Please take all the time you need. I hope you don't mind me asking all of this. If you do not want to answer, please skip the question or tell me 🙂

Nate

markules

You have to get used to it and don't forget it's there, otherwise, you might accidentally show it e.g. in the gym. Doing hygiene is harder, and sleeping on your belly is not particularly comfortable.
(copy-paste, from an older post) No. Frankly, I can't get an erection in the cage since it's the size as I am when flaccid. When I try to get erect, it feels unpleasant as it doesn't have space to grow.
Yes, but it's not 100%. There are still situations when I need to lubricate around the ring, like after doing sports.
(also a copy-pasta) Jake, my boyfriend, all teammates from floorball and a few good friends. Except that, I try to keep it private as much as possible.
Most often, just a "cage", no special name for it.
I can hardly call that sudden; it's either at night or when I get extremely aroused. Since I began to milk myself regularly, it has become better.
As a punishment, because I tried to escape from the cage. I didn't know when I would be released because there was no release schedule (just cleaning).
Definitely not. It's far heavier, and you can't hide it very well.
It's an original. However, the new metal ones are copies.
No, never.
Yeah, they should actually arrive tomorrow!
Yes, but it's removed before I go in, and I'm relocked immediately after, so I can't cheat on the way there.
Not my parents, since we agreed that their key is a "spare" for cleaning. I think my boyfriend would, but it would count as a release.
Well, it would definitely be interesting if all teenagers and young adults were locked.
About 14 could be a good age to start.
Three weeks until I no longer had to care for it (health reasons), and a month or two since I stopped feeling it strange.
He can get his release at the end of the month when we're at home.
Not really, given my situation. But that's why Jake has to wear it!

Jonas

Well, I'll see tomorrow when the cages arrive.

Of course Jake nearly always asks not to re-lock him again. But we both know that if our parents discovered, we would be in trouble.

Jonas

Nate Well, I'll see tomorrow when the cages arrive.

Best of luck to you!

youdontknowme

Nate Well, it would definitely be interesting if all teenagers and young adults were locked.

I guess the best part for you would be that if chastity were normal, you would have a lot less to hide about it.

One more question about dealing with embarassment, I assume any family that practices some form of enforced chastity will not have many issues with bathroom privacy or nudity in front of other family members (unless every unlock is also a release). But I wonder, on your non-release unlocks, would your washing be closely supervised or would it just be a case of "someone is in the room and even if they were not, you would not have much time to cheat anyway"? Does the fact that your primary keyholder is your significant other make hygiene releases more comfortable? Did you have to get used to the loss of privacy?

Personally, when I lived with my parents (and chastity was not in the picture back then), I had no trouble being naked in front of them, and the bathroom door was unlocked unless visitors were over. I did not mind family members in the room while showering, except for washing between my legs, I usually spent time on other body parts until they left.

Max9

Nate r, and sleeping on your belly is not particularly comfortable

yes, that's true. But this only applies to cages

Nate

youdontknowme

When I was unlocked for cleaning (without a release), my parents took the cage off, and while I was showering, they were cleaning the cage, so they were still in the bathroom. After that, I was re-locked.

Yeah, it's definitely better now when my boyfriend has the keys. He sometimes even helps me with my prostate milking. And about the privacy ... it's the same with me ... we never made a big deal of being naked.

youdontknowme

Nate So basically, not directly under anyone's gaze, but someone was close enough that your chances of getting caught were high enough that the risk was not worth it.

As for how your boyfriend taking over as your main keyholder changed things, I am particularly curious about the non-release unlocks (though I also completely understand if those details are too personal to share). Is it very different with him? I assume there are things that you might do in the shower with a lover that you would not do with a parent or other family member. And does he trust you more to "behave" because you are abstaining from masturbation to make him happy about as much as you are because you are ordered to?

Nate

youdontknowme

Well, not directly under anyone's gaze, but if I started masturbating in the shower, it could be easily seen through the translucent door ...

As for my boyfriend, he also never leaves when my cage is off. However, we usually wash the cage first, and then I go to shower re-locked, so I can give myself a milking. He usually helps me with that.

Max9

True, but I've always been in a cage.

youdontknowme

Yeah, we actually asked my parents for their opinion, because we wanted to make sure that we won't screw anything by going metal or buying a knock-off from China.

Jonas

Hi again 😃 ... my semester was starting this Monday, so I needed quite a lot of time to get through everything.

When the cage arrived, my boyfriend and I immediately went to try the metal cage. It's quite heavy compared to what I originally thought or was in the description, but so far, it has been great. I already managed to go with it on my floorball training, and I noticed two things: the v4 ring is a lot better, I didn't need to lube it afterwards; on the other hand, you need way tighter underwear because of the added weight.

I changed Jake to the new cage today. When we were ordering the cage, he seemed quite happy about it, but now he was absolutely shocked about the weight. Despite that, he's now in the metal one and will have to get used to it (or ask parents, which I doubt will change anything).

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