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Vanessa

Sin I think Covid has stopped most gap year plans now anyway. :-(

Probably yes.

Sin In Australia it's almost a rite of passage... because we're so isolated most young people are itching to get out and experience different cultures / lifestyles.

Less common in Europe,I think.At least in France.

Sin You learn a lot from travelling.

I think it is possible,yes;depending on our travels,however.More if we travel in other countries,and less with a travel agency.

Angelina

Vanessa For example,I probably have been able to discuss with my parents about a gap year

i might do that too, i think my father would agree, but it will take another 5 years (at least 3), but i also have the advantage that my future job is relatively secure.

Sin Incidentally, the only people who seem to travel as much as Aussies are Germans! No matter how far off the beaten track I go there's always Germans! I bump into them in the weirdest places.

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Vanessa I think it is possible,yes;depending on our travels,however.More if we travel in other countries,and less with a travel agency.

and i think it depends on the reason. travelling to discover foreign cultures is of course more meaningful than travelling to get drunk and party.

Sara2001

Sin May I ask... What are your feelings towards the BDSM community? Do you think your lifestyle is related to kink in any way? Do you enjoy any other aspects of BDSM such as bondage, spanking etc?

I think BDSM is a version of playing what we do in real. I think our lifestyle is definitely related to kinks and I think as long as both of us are happy with integrating these kinks or at least are absolutely not unhappy to see these kinks in our relationship, everything is fine.

I am not sexually into bondage and if it comes to spanking, I am very well trained, that spankings are a way of discipline not sex and Daniel is traind to find the right level, so they feel like discipline, not like foreplay or something like that.

Sin

Sara2001 I think our lifestyle is definitely related to kinks and I think as long as both of us are happy with integrating these kinks or at least are absolutely not unhappy to see these kinks in our relationship, everything is fine.

I agree. I don't think your relationship is any different to many people I know in the kink community. Being introduced to it by your parents is hard to fathom though... You've effectively be 'sold off' at a very young age to the first guy you meet from your parent's community.

Jumping into such an intense BDSM relationship with your very first partner is fraught with danger. It takes years to develop the trust and understanding required from both of you. Not saying you can't be happy or that you shouldn't do it... but there are a lot of red flags in your situation.

Sara2001

Sin You've effectively be 'sold off' at a very young age to the first guy you meet from your parent's community.

I am not kind of sold of in any way. I was by no means forced to have a relationship with him or to have this kind of relationship with him. Being raised with his values doesn't make me blind for other values. I visited school, I have friends who grow up in equal rights families. I know there are other choices for me but I have choosen this lifestyle. I am not a helpless slave girl how you describe me.

Sin It takes years to develop the trust and understanding required from both of you.

Yes, and we have all these years. I know him for a while now and it hasn't started like it is now. Everything evolved slowly and will continue to evolve slowly. If it evolves in a way that makes me unhappy, I am 100% sure that we will change these aspects. I am not helpless or blind or stupid or brainwashed.

Jen

Sin https://unwedchastity.org/d/60/468

Vanessa

Sara2001 Everything evolved slowly and will continue to evolve slowly.

But almost always by getting stricter.

Angelina i might do that too, i think my father would agree

Do you consider doing it,so?

Angelina travelling to discover foreign cultures is of course more meaningful than travelling to get drunk and party.

Of course.

Sin

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Joh Work in other countries are usual in Germany. I met many young people in other countries. They did it before they started studying.

Not that common in France,especially before studying.

Sin

Angelina travelling to discover foreign cultures is of course more meaningful than travelling to get drunk and party.

Depends how you frame it in a job interview...
"Went to Bali, got shitfaced in a nightclub, swore at the barman, had a fight with some locals and got arrested"
vs
"Travelled to a developing country, significantly invested in the local economy, learnt some of the Bahasa-Indonesian language, undertook extensive Indo-Australian negotiations, taught self defence to an underprivileged community group, did a research project into the Indonesian incarceration system"
😁

LoonyMel

Sin
There is a famous comedy movie here in Italy, one of the best we ever had and one of the best in absolute, which is has the same scene.
Three friends who work in an hardware store just because they married two of the three daughters of the director.
They are at lunch and talking to an interesting lady who shows culture and who works as an art restorer and then she suddenly asks them what they do. One of them rushes it.
"well... We work in a mechanical branch, we sell little ultra precise tool which then will be developed into bigger reality. Components which will be the basis for the development of... You know, microcomputer, engineering stuff, we... Clear?"
"...ehr... Nope. "
Then the most silly one breathes with resignation.
" well we have an hardware store. To be honest is not like we have it. We just are employed there. Like... just servants... Slaves...".

Foxies

Sin

Smiles. If you are not a journalist or politician, your talents are being wasted. 🤣 For that amount of "spin" you must put out one heck of a magnetic field 😂

Angelina

Sin

that's right, the way it is formulated is crucial 😂

Joh

Angelina it is usually due to the fact that we did not communicate well enough with each other.

I agree too often the communication is not sufficient. But with some problems you can't solve it with communication. You can come the a conclusion which leads to a separation because it is the best.

Angelina whether the ideas of life fit together,

Sadly you can't predict everything in the beginning. You can not foresee in which direction each of you will develop but your approach will reduce the risk to fail.

Vanessa working in other countries,

Work in other countries are usual in Germany. I met many young people in other countries. They did it before they started studying.

Sin I think international travel will take a long time to recover. :-(

I see it too ☹️

Sin Travelled to a developing country, significantly invested in the local economy, learnt some of the Bahasa-Indonesian language, undertook extensive Indo-Australian negotiations, taught self defence to an underprivileged community group, did a research project into the Indonesian incarceration system"

Great. :-))

Angelina

Joh I agree too often the communication is not sufficient. But with some problems you can't solve it with communication. You can come the a conclusion which leads to a separation because it is the best.

of course, when nothing else helps, only separation helps, but mostly couples separate too quickly, that's the point

Joh but your approach will reduce the risk to fail.

and that is the goal 0 risk of course does not exist

Vanessa Do you consider doing it,so?

I don't know yet, there is still sooo much time until then. 😉

Joh

Vanessa But almost always by getting stricter.

She want it.

Sara2001

Vanessa But almost always by getting stricter.

Isn't that logical when you are working on the rules for a man led relationship? Because we talk a lot and make small changes on a regular basis and because we use the experiences of our families, we have a very good chance, that we only try things that work for us. But of course there are things that we don't continue that give me more freedom. Not everything is practically.

Joh

Sara2001 Do you can sh

Sara2001 Not everything is practically.

Can you share an example?

Vanessa

Sara2001 Isn't that logical when you are working on the rules for a man led relationship?

Not especially.The changes could be done to make less strict rules,even in this sort of relationship.

Sara2001

Vanessa Not especially.The changes could be done to make less strict rules,even in this sort of relationship.

They become less strinct if they make me unhappy. But so far, this is almost never the case, because we talk prior to a rule becoming a rule and he knows what I like, what I can accept and what makes me unhappy.

For example my communication rules became less strict after we tried some stricter rules. They where just not practically.

Joh

Sara2001
👍️

Vanessa

Sara2001

Ok,if it happens it can be less strict if necessary,it's very good!🙂

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