Thighbands

Angelina

Vanessa I guess you're right,it could have worked if you tried it when you started to wear it.

yes, but I didn't think it made sense to intentionally lower my school grades 😂

Vanessa t may make you wear the thigh bands less often,and I think he would not change his work rhythm for a long time,so you could probably easily guess it soon after,while keeping your added freedom!😉

maybe, but it's all a bit difficult to manage. especially because my father's working hours can change from one day to the next

Vanessa I guess some people would be surprised!How do you plan to answer their questions?

OK then a short update for everyone and I must say it proves again that we should not be too afraid that our devices will be seen.
Actually nobody has asked me about it 🙂

Sara2001

Angelina OK then a short update for everyone and I must say it proves again that we should not be too afraid that our devices will be seen.
Actually nobody has asked me about it 🙂

This is more a pro-tightbands argument 🙂 🙁

Vanessa

Angelina yes, but I didn't think it made sense to intentionally lower my school grades 😂

It is risked,it can lead to more studying with no more freedom,but maybe it would have been worth trying it...

Angelina maybe, but it's all a bit difficult to manage. especially because my father's working hours can change from one day to the next

Yes,you should be sure you would not be more watched for a long time.

Angelina Actually nobody has asked me about it 🙂

Surprising,but good for you.

How did you felt,wearing pants again?😉

Sara2001

I think it was wiser to not try if not sure you can avoid being caught.

Angelina even more restrictions are hardly possible with you 😂

Less leisure,more chores,less time with her boyfriend...

Sara2001

Vanessa You said you tried it,have you been been caught?If yes,were you punished for it or only warned?

I tried to find a way around, but never did anything. If I would have bin caught, I would be definitely in for a very severe punishment. As you know, cheating our equipment is one of the biggest No-nos. It would definitely had lead to long term restrictions, too.

Angelina

Sara2001 It would definitely had lead to long term restrictions, too.

even more restrictions are hardly possible with you 😂

Sara2001 This is more a pro-tightbands argument 🙂 🙁

why? sorry i do not understand 😂

i rather think it's an argument, we should hide less behind our equipment 🙂

Sara2001

Angelina even more restrictions are hardly possible with you 😂

Yes, but I am sure something could be found, so I will definitely not give it a try 🙂

Angelina why? sorry i do not understand

If nobody notice a difference, you can easily wear them at school. Nobody will recognise the difference anyway.

Angelina

Sara2001 Yes, but I am sure something could be found, so I will definitely not give it a try 🙂

mayby better this way

Sara2001 If nobody notice a difference, you can easily wear them at school. Nobody will recognise the difference anyway.

that's right, although i have to say that it's better for the wearer if nobody notices, you certainly agree with me on this point, or ? 😉

Angelina

Vanessa It is risked,it can lead to more studying with no more freedom,but maybe it would have been worth trying it...

no, my school education is more important to me

Vanessa Yes,you should be sure you would not be more watched for a long time.

but it doesn't work, my father is self-employed and has no fixed working hours, he tries to have a rhythm but mostly he works exactly when and as much as he needs to

Vanessa How did you felt,wearing pants again?😉

i think i have never enjoyed wearing pants so much in my life 😂

Vanessa less time with her boyfriend...

@Sara2001 boyfriend now lives at her home, very difficult to take this as punishment 😉

Sara2001

Angelina @Sara2001 boyfriend now lives at her home, very difficult to take this as punishment 😉

My father can decide to remove the door to my room, or he can order Daniel to move out. Daniel has it's own room in our home, but we are normally allowed to sleep in my room together. He can take this privilege away.

Vanessa

Angelina but it doesn't work, my father is self-employed and has no fixed working hours, he tries to have a rhythm but mostly he works exactly when and as much as he needs to

I thought that he would have trouble to change his rhythm for more than a few days/weeks.

Angelina i think i have never enjoyed wearing pants so much in my life 😂

🤣

Angelina @Sara2001 boyfriend now lives at her home, very difficult to take this as punishment 😉

He could be told to come back to his /his parents' home until @Sara2001 punishment is ended.

Sara2001 remove the door to my room

It would be very unpleasant too.

Sara2001

Your boyfriend's opinion would not be taken into account?

Angelina

Sara2001 He can take this privilege away.

this is true, but by doing so he would not only punish you but also daniel

Sara2001

Angelina this is true, but by doing so he would not only punish you but also daniel

Yes, and he would do it if I gave him a good reason.

Angelina

Sara2001 Yes, and he would do it if I gave him a good reason.

yes, but that would actually be unfair for daniel to be "co-punished", wouldn't it?

Sara2001

Angelina yes, but that would actually be unfair for daniel to be "co-punished", wouldn't it?

He wants to take care of me, so it's not that unfair. He can make sure that I act as I should.

Angelina

Sara2001

uhhh who do you mean by He in this post . Daniel or your father?

Sara2001

Angelina Daniel

Yes 🤣

Sara2001

Vanessa Your boyfriend's opinion would not be taken into account?

I think it would depend on the incident. Normally he and my father speak with "one voice" to me. I don't know exactly how a discussion prior to informing me went. But at the end, my father has the final saying before marriage.

Angelina

Vanessa I thought that he would have trouble to change his rhythm for more than a few days/weeks.

well, let me try to be a bit clearer. he tries to keep a work rhythm, but the situation often doesn't allow it. he hates this, but can't change it, because as a self-employed person you always have to work when there is something to do. this can be at 6 a.m. or 10 p.m., it can be that you only work 4 hours a day or 12 hours

Sara2001 Normally he and my father speak with "one voice" to me.

does this mean that they won't talk to you until they have finished the discussion and made a decision?

Vanessa

Sara2001

Do you think your boyfriend would try to lessen the punishment,or would agree to make it hard,even if meaning you would be less often allowed to spend time with him?

Angelina well, let me try to be a bit clearer. he tries to keep a work rhythm, but the situation often doesn't allow it. he hates this, but can't change it, because as a self-employed person you always have to work when there is something to do. this can be at 6 a.m. or 10 p.m., it can be that you only work 4 hours a day or 12 hours

In this case,yes,it would not be a good idea to suggest him to watch you more often,as he could do it easily,sometimes.

Sara2001

And for cheating your devices(or trying more than only fighting it),I doubt they would allow you much input...

Sara2001

Not too frustrating to not be allowed to discuss too?And don't you think you would succeed to have permission more often if allowed to take part of all the discussion?

Sara2001

Angelina does this mean that they won't talk to you until they have finished the discussion and made a decision?

It depends. At least I am not part of decisions. But if I can explain something that wasn't taken into account, they may change their decision but normally everything is clear. My input is only needed to understand the situation.

Angelina

Sara2001 At least I am not part of decisions.

so you are still part of the discussion and allowed to talk, only you are not involved in the decision, did I understand that right?

Sara2001

Angelina so you are still part of the discussion and allowed to talk, only you are not involved in the decision, did I understand that right?

Not always. I am often asked my point of view if it is about punishments or breaking rules, then they always want to hear my version of the incident. In other situations like asking permission for something I am asked 2/3 of the situations about why I have asked before they decide. If it is about rules or tasks they normally explain the decision to me after it is made but if I have very good arguments then, they can rethink their decision, but this almost never happen, because they know the situation very well. Sometimes we talk about a topic prior to a rule, but then I normally don't know that they think about a rule regarding this aspect. In any situation I am normally only a part time participant of the discussion, they talk before I join and after I left. So no, I am not always part of the discussion.

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