Amira My Mom and I talked and we decided that I won't get a break till the end of Ramadan and that I'll be wearing my thigh bands except for school time.
Sounds good. Why not for school though?
Amira The chain length is fixed to a distance of 15 cm in between of the rings.
This seems a bit long in my opinion
Maija Why not for school though?
Because it is more complicated to hide the thigh bands than it is to hide just the belt and I wouldn't want anyone to know about it.
Maija This seems a bit long in my opinion
Hm... I guess it as well depends on the height of the rings on the legs, but I consider it short enough, and shorter wouldn't increase security just the factor of annoyance would raise.
Sara2001 Yes, and this has nothing to do with social security which is a necessary preparation for a fair contract between a company and an employee. If this is not given, the employee is dependent on the money from the job and therefore has no realistic opportunity to survive, while the company can just hire someone else. I talk about people without a good qualification. These people are a big group and not all of them can get a better qualification,.for example simply because they are not smart enough.
a welfare system is not there to put pressure on employers or to replace qualifications. you really can almost always train these days. a welfare system is there to help people who are out of work in the SHORT TERM. and yes, I wrote that in capital letters on purpose because that is the problem.
Sara2001 If everyone has always the opportunity to say no, it's a truly free market
exactly, but i don't have the option to say no if i don't want someone to get my money. if you need something, you are welcome to ask me, but i don't like to be forced to do so by the state.
sorry, maybe @Laura can split it when she has time
Amira My Mom and I talked and we decided that I won't get a break till the end of Ramadan and that I'll be wearing my thigh bands except for school time.
why such strict rules? because of your fasting time? you already fast enough outside ramadan 
anyway have a nice time, i know it's a very high festival for you muslims 
Amira Yes, I thought about it, but I didn't consider it to be the right thing for me.
may i ask why? i actually thought @carg's idea was quite good
Amira Because it is more complicated to hide the thigh bands than it is to hide just the belt and I wouldn't want anyone to know about it.
with a long skirt, actually no problem, but even better for you 
Fasting is getting harder and harder with each following day. I managed over the half of Ramadan without a release from my belt (except for cleaning of course ) but today the thighbands killed me! so after I cleaned myself up I asked Mom if we can not put them on for the day which she said was perfectly ok and so I had the opportunity to stretch my legs the whole day. now I'm back in them for the night and ask myself if I should wear them tomorrow or not.
Megan No in my opinion you do not need those except if you are tossing and turning to much to sleep.
Especially if it is bad on your legs is enough reason for meAngelina ok, now that i am writing to you, the decision has already been made. i see it like this, the thighbands were part of your fast and you have now broken it (which i don't find bad), it makes no sense from my point of view if you return now
Thank you, both of you! Mom and I agreed that the thigh bands at daytime are too much for me, therefore we will refrain from using them at daytime and only use them at night
Amira Thank you, both of you!
i think that is a good idea, but the problem was rather that you had school holidays, then it meant almost permanently which is probably just too much for a volunteer
Amira and it's not bad to know what limits I have.
right, you have the experience now
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