Farewell

Avery

Joh That is a way but do we know if it really minors?

The tricky point is if we not meet in real life we do not know if the information we got are true.

So we have the situation where we accuse someone even though it is not the case. On the other hand, it can also be that someone is in contact in the belief that he/she is of age.

We're at cross purposes some how.

I mean the case where someone says they are a minor and someone here immediately posts a smiley and a "welcome to the forum". Doesn't matter if the person IS a minor, The person answering thinks and hopes they are engaging with a minor.

Joh

Avery I mean the case where someone says they are a minor and someone here immediately posts a smiley and a "welcome to the forum".

I see nothing reprehensible in that. After all, we members of the forum want to help with knowledge and advice about chastity and chastity belts.

Avery The person answering thinks and hopes they are engaging with a minor.

Even that is not a questionable act, because the intention behind it is not yet clear. What is really relevant is what is being talked about and which topics are being addressed and how. And in the course of the conversation it is also important whether there is a restriction on answering certain topics even though there is no willingness to do so.

If the whole thing takes place in a private conversation, it is outside our sphere of influence. We can only point out that this can happen and everyone should be very careful when doing so.

Ines

Avery

And again Avery, you are right. With the guessed younger girls interaction have to be not sharp, but you can not to normalize such situation.
Limited threads and orientation, of course anything similar to hot chats.
The politic should be good because guessed young girls drop drastically on last years.

Angelina

Joh That is a way but do we know if it really minors?

right, today, with all respect for @Ines, I would no longer admit that I was a minor, I would feel too strongly restricted in free communication for that

Avery I mean the case where someone says they are a minor and someone here immediately posts a smiley and a "welcome to the forum".

I have done this with almost every new user so far (as far as I can tell).

youdontknowme

In this case, the older and longer-standing member did not immediately retract the keyholding offer after she made him aware she was 17, as far as I could figure out from the conversations I have had about that topic.

youdontknowme

Joh I see nothing reprehensible in that. After all, we members of the forum want to help with knowledge and advice about chastity and chastity belts.

It mostly becomes problematic when that attention is exclusively focussed on certain groups like young women, or when a private line of communication is offered very early.

Avery

Joh we members

I'm sure that is YOUR intention.

Avery

Joh Even that is not a questionable act, because the intention behind it is not yet clear.

I think we need to wonder when it happens over and over and we are told it happened in real life and is happening in emails.

Avery

Joh If the whole thing takes place in a private conversation, it is outside our sphere of influence. We can only point out that this can happen and everyone should be very careful when doing so.

If the private conversation came about because of contact made here it is not outside our sphere. We can point it out and urge the group owner not to permit it.

WriterAlexis

Ines

The politic should be good because guessed young girls drop drastically on last years.

Please clarify.

Joh

youdontknowme exclusively focussed on certain groups like young women, or when a private line of communication is offered very early.

I agree with you. This is a sign If there are dishonest intention behind it.

Ines

WriterAlexis

To be aseptic with such profiles leaded to a dramatic drop of new users claiming be young girls, and even, young boys.
If you do not allow them to tell a juicy story, they do not come here.

Joh

Avery I'm sure that is YOUR intention.

So, you are not here to help them if they need help?

Joh

Avery Do you think we are all stupid enough to buy this? How did you possibly get THAT out of what I wrote?

Tell us. We're waiting.

First of all, I recommend you calm down.
Secondly, you should always be aware that the majority of people here do not have English as their mother language.

To come back to your statement.

Avery I'm sure that is YOUR intention.

I can understand these in different ways.
1) Since you explicitly referred to me only (YOUR in capital letters), I conclude that the other members do not, including you.

it was meant sarcastically and I didn't want to help here.
you think I'm one of the few who want to help and that's why you singled me out.

What you see as clear is not so for others. Especially considering that you feel attacked quite quickly in comparison.

youdontknowme

Avery It is the other way around. The wearer joined this place because the keyholdet directed her here, after keyholding was already at least discussed, probably even going on.

Ines

Avery

No, it was exactly the other way: it happened before both of them became members of this forum.

Joh

Avery What I want to point out is that as long as we don't have a sound basis, it's just slander, putting someone in a bad light without possibly being able to do anything.

We should be careful with accusations. Taking something from hearsay as knowledge is negligent.

youdontknowme

Ines I believe the keyholder was a member, but not the wearer

Avery

Ines No, it was exactly the other way: it happened before both of them became members of this forum.

Sorry @Ines , you're talking about a specific recent case. I'm not. I maintain that for the three or so years I've been here I've seen member behaviors concerning minors that troubled me.

I know you try to control this kind of thing. I've seen you tell new young people they may not participate in adult topics. It's the members I worry about and why they are here.

Avery

Joh So, you are not here to help them if they need help?

Do you think we are all stupid enough to buy this? How did you possibly get THAT out of what I wrote?

Tell us. We're waiting.

Avery

Joh We should be careful with accusations. Taking something from hearsay as knowledge is negligent.

I rely directly on what people say and do. Their descriptions of their real-life relationships. Their claims they exchange emails with minors. Their greetings postings.

Tell us now where I have ever relied on hearsay. I want names.

youdontknowme

Joh I can understand these in different ways.
1) Since you explicitly referred to me only (YOUR in capital letters), I conclude that the other members do not, including you.
it was meant sarcastically and I didn't want to help here.
you think I'm one of the few who want to help and that's why you singled me out.

What you see as clear is not so for others. Especially considering that you feel attacked quite quickly in comparison.

Some people want nothing but to help to the best of their ability. You are among them. I am among them. But there might be other members who have other, less kind reasons for talking to young people, and those should not get an opportunity to gain the newcomer's trust. And we cannot tell for sure who has what intentions. Just because I know for sure that I am harmless does not mean a stranger can have that same confidence. Same goes for you. Or for anyone else who proclaims their good intent. Eventually, the more members there are, the more likely you are to come across someone who says he has good intentions, but does not actually have them. If it were just the three of us, the chances that one of us would mean harm to a new member would be close to zero. But this forum has hundreds of members, making it much more likely that one of them is not what they seem to be.

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