i got mine here from my keyholder: https://badassworkroom.com ... god-tier quality, fair price BUT they take forever to deliver. she told me it took about 4 months and several e-mails with specifics and questions, till the job was finished and she received the cage. but it is so comfortable to wear and i can't complain the slightest.

JonesMacGyver The ORIGIONAL owner of Access Denied passed away. It was eventually sold (after years) to the owner of Fancy Steel.

I'm talking about the US one from New York.

      I thought the new AD belts had thinner material and a low security lock?

        Angelina I don't think so. I want Kate to wear something that she feels comfortable in. Since she is committed to this I want to eliminate anything that may cause that commitment to waver. We switch between the other two belts periodically, depending on how she feels and what she is doing that day. Adding a third one is not a major concern of mine.

            Jonas Thank you and @Philip @Steve @JonesMacGyver @Joh for your help. The Access Denied belt at this shop I have been assured is an older model with the original lock. I am going to investigate that further. I do not want to buy a cheap knockoff.

                Jenna ASK them how old the belt is. If it before 2001 it is Not likely a cheap knockoff.

                  Jenna
                  I am not sure that switching between belts is the best idea.
                  No steel belt will ever adjust to the body as nicely as for example cotton pants.
                  To a large part, it is the body adjusting to the belt. One belt constantly worn will get her adjusted and comfortable quicker than changing between belts, I think.

                      curious I had not thought of that, thanks for sharing. I think I am going to take a closer look at this Access Denied belt and if it fits properly buy it. Then Kate can make a determination which one is best for her. I agree it may be best to try and get used to one rather than bouncing back and forth between different models.

                        Jenna I actually emailed them last night myself. Hopefully they will get back to me.

                          A CB is always a compromise between comfort and how well you can hide it on the premise that it is safe. The ones that are more comfortable are more bulky and the others are not so comfortable. I think and from what I have heard from others it is good to have different CB's for different occasions. At home, out of the house or at the beach (ask @Ines ).

                          curious One belt constantly worn will get her adjusted and comfortable quicker than changing between belts, I think.

                          I agree with @curious here. The body adapts to the belt. Once through the initial acclimatization and bespoke bends I can't understand why it makes sense to swap.

                          • Joh replied to this.

                              Jonas What is the right way to do for you must Not the right way for another wrarer. Let the girlsd decide which way they can handle their Situation better.
                              If they use all the time only one CB @Jenna can Well the other. No big loss becousr they could Test it over a longer time. If they Like to Change. Grat they have the Options and feel better.

                                  Joh What is the right way to do for you must Not the right way for another wrarer

                                  No, I think this is a general case. I think it isn't good to force the body to adapt and then re-adapt to different belts of different shapes.

                                    Jenna We switch between the other two belts periodically, depending on how she feels and what she is doing that day.

                                    i am not sure if i think this is right. a belt needs time to adjust to the body and vice versa, changing it all the time might make it more uncomfortable, but i have read similar things from other girls, so this is just my opinion.

                                        Angelina
                                        @Jonas

                                        My opinion and experience is very positive. With the hip belt I can wear clothes that I would have liked to wear when I was in high school, and for more comfort I use my other belt.
                                        A cable belt would be perfect to cover all the possibilities, but I know that would mean having to wear it in circumstances where I am now allowed a break, so it is smarter do not ask for it.

                                            Angelina The girls each have two belts and I will buy the Access Denied for Kate if it fits properly. Then she can make her decision which one is best or if she prefers to change them on occasion. It doesn't matter to me, I just want her to be comfortable.

                                                Jenna one good belt for normal weqaring is enough... maybe sometimes some 2nd more discrete for some sports.

                                                  Jenna A good decision. Your nice will find out what the best for them is and they will wear it as it suite them at the different situation and how the feel. 👍️

                                                    Ines

                                                    Jenna

                                                    i believe your experiences, mine are that the body and the belt adapt to each other over time. i think with two or more belts there might be problems to achieve the comfort, because (even if custom made) the anatomy of the belts are not identical.

                                                        Renita Yes, exactly. That is the owner from the US (Could have been NY) who passed away... The widow sold to the owner of Fancy Steel. I know he was trying to sell it.