Avery Sorry to editorialize but I find this all very interesting. One may say they are pro-nudism but also have very specific ideas about what exactly is appropriate and when and for whom.

As I said, higher stakes. No adult nudist (caveat: excluding some crazy people, activists and people who practice both exhibitionism and nudism - and those groups may overlap) would walk down a busy street naked, but a child who has rarely been discouraged from taking off their clothes at home might need some lessons on the subject of where nudity is appropriate and where it is not, or there is potential for some seriously awkward situations.

Angelina something general about clothing. i don't think it's really wrong when children who, even if they are over 18, still live with their parents adapt to their parents' wishes when it comes to clothing. of course the parents should also give the children the necessary freedom and i think there is a difference between in the house and in public. Example: my daughter wants to wear hot pants and a crop top. she can do that at home. I wouldn't want that at a party, whether she's 15 or 22

Limited agree. You should be able to talk about that matter like adults and negotiate the matter. I absolutely think it is only proper that the adult child takes their parents wishes into account when they still live under the parents' roof, but I do not think one-sided dictation is appropriate. But it would be totally fair to, say, expect some/more contribution to the household costs in exchange for increased freedom or something like that.

        Avery I know my father has no problem with me being with boys while I am in a bikini but if they saw me in my underwear, which covers about the same, he would be very displeased.

        Same for me.

        Angelina Example: my daughter wants to wear hot pants and a crop top. she can do that at home. I wouldn't want that at a party, whether she's 15 or 22

        I will not allow it in home neither.

            Angelina it is all about. my dad supervise my showers, which means he sees me naked anyway and regardless of what we all think of it, it makes sense that it doesn't matter if he sees me naked in the bathroom or in the living room

            I thought this kind of stuff was now verboten.

                Avery
                seeing other people in the nude is not per se wrong. I am in a profession where this is often necessary.
                The difference between right or wrong is not in the degree of nudity but in the intent of the people involved.

                    curious seeing other people in the nude is not per se wrong. I am in a profession where this is often necessary.
                    The difference between right or wrong is not in the degree of nudity but in the intent of the people involved.

                    This is true. Some necessary nudity in a professional setting is different from a man watching his teenage daughter take her showers.

                        Avery This is true. Some necessary nudity in a professional setting is different from a man watching his teenage daughter take her showers.

                        Agree.

                          Avery
                          What I wanted to point out is:
                          If watching her showers is purely for the purpose of ensuring the chastity regime is upheld (no matter if you agree that that regime is right or wrong - that´s a totally different discussion) and he does not have any sexual feelings or gets aroused by this , I would consider this a technical necessity comparable to nudity in the professional setting.

                              curious

                              As wearer, I see it very differently. Wearing a chastity belt does not mean no intimacy.
                              A man never ever should see naked girls.

                                  Avery The United States is much more uptight about nudity then most other Western counteries. Probably come from our Puritan forefathers. It is relaxing slowly. In the 60's the strippers had to wear pasties on their nipples. Then they let them use liquid latex on their nipples. Now, they can just be bare. Father watching a teenage daughter shower, I don't think we will go there.

                                      It always depends on why.
                                      My daughter, for example, still wanted to shower with me when she was 8 years old, but my son did not. So what! We made a lot of nonsense in the shower and had fun. But that never had anything to do with arousal on my part. That's exactly how I creamed her back after the shower, at her request.
                                      When you see your child grow up from birth, your child, whether naked or clothed, has nothing at all to do with sex, that you can not imagine if you have not experienced it. Until the questions about sexuality come.

                                      Mr-TM sorry, I don’t see the issue here - she’s 8, not 16. She has no top to emphasise. You could show her that beachwear isn’t always appropriate but I wouldn’t make a huge deal out of it, unless you think men will start staring at her (at 8?)

                                          hanna_anders unless you think men will start staring at her (at 8?)

                                          That was probably the unconscious trigger. But I did not find it appropriate that an 8 year old only dressed in a bikini goes on a sightseeing tour. On the campsite, which was right on the lake I accepted that even if I was not pleased about it.

                                            Mr-TM Was being naked before the cb already an topic with you?

                                            not really a topic, but I didn't really pay much attention to it. I have no problems with my body, I don't have to present myself naked, but what happens happens

                                            youdontknowme but I do not think one-sided dictation is appropriate.

                                            I wouldn't do that either, but not if my daughter were 15 either. I would explain to her why she shouldn't go to the party like that. my example should only make it clear that only when the daughter is grown up, the arguments against such an outfit don't change

                                            curious The difference between right or wrong is not in the degree of nudity but in the intent of the people involved.

                                            That's right, if I was taking a shower and my father had to go to the bathroom because he has to go to the toilet or something, that wouldn't be a problem for me, the problem is why he sees me in the shower

                                            curious

                                            that's exactly how it is and honestly. he doesn't stand in front of me like a general and observe every action. he usually sits on the toilet lid, plays with his smartphone and only occasionally makes sure that my hands are not on intimate areas for too long

                                            Ines A man never ever should see naked girls.

                                            ok, let's assume for a moment that i would wear the belt voluntarily, then it would actually be the same. Unfortunately, I don't have a mother, so my father would have to do it too if I were a volunteer.

                                                        bdsamm Probably come from our Puritan forefathers.

                                                        Could very well be up in New England and down Virginia way, where the first Europeans landed. But it seems to pervade the country. Even in California, far as I know. Interesting. Some what odd, I think. This is a big country.

                                                            Angelina ok, let's assume for a moment that i would wear the belt voluntarily, then it would actually be the same. Unfortunately, I don't have a mother, so my father would have to do it too if I were a volunteer.

                                                            I'm confused. What is "it" that your father would have to do? I wear mine voluntarily and my father never sees me naked. No one does. I certainly don't let anyone at school ever see me in it and no one at home ever does, except in some very odd circumstance like I have it on in the middle of the night and go out to the bathroom and someone just happens to be up at the same time and sees me in the hall.

                                                                Angelina but I didn't really pay much attention to it. I have no problems with my body, I don't have to present myself naked, but what happens happens

                                                                That's how we did it with our kids, too.

                                                                  Avery What is "it" that your father would have to do?

                                                                  to monitor me when I take a shower. if i wore the belt voluntarily, then my goal would be chastity and it would be better if i wasn't alone in the shower and could masturbate, right? all the girls here have weak moments, that's what i mean

                                                                      Angelina if i wore the belt voluntarily, then my goal would be chastity and it would be better if i wasn't alone in the shower and could masturbate, right? all the girls here have weak moments, that's what i mean

                                                                      Good. I have a suggestion. When I have a weak moment when in bed, I get out of bed, put the belt on, put the key under the mattress and get back into bed. Similarly, when you have a weak moment in the shower just step out, put the belt on and continue as best you can. If your goal is chastity I'm sure you can successfully shower most of the time and things will be OK.

                                                                      I found I had to develop solutions to problems and you could too. Incidentally, I solved the shower problem by showering in a place where others are present. But of course this is not usually available to people.

                                                                          Angelina I don't have a mother, so my father would have to do it too if I were a volunteer.

                                                                          Well, you could have timed showers.
                                                                          I can not approve that behavior of your father.

                                                                              Avery When I have a weak moment when in bed, I get out of bed, put the belt on, put the key under the mattress and get back into bed

                                                                              I find that admirable discipline. Only very few people have this.