the lock!

HHelen

Joh Pick a lock and you see how easy or difficult it is.

I was not successive in it at all.

Angelina if this would work, it would solve all my problems

And I don't want to be made a fool.

Joh

Tobbe I do not think you really understand what I'm writing.???

I did understand it but you don't understand my point.

Tobbe Parents and daughter have an agreement

For an agreement is it necessary that it work you have to trust each other. Otherwise it makes no sense. If both sides are trustworthy and will stick to the agreement why then a belt?
The belt is a contradiction in terms. If it is necessary, there is no trust. Then even a belt will not prevent the agreement from being broken. So it is better to work on the cause than on the effect.

HHelen I was not successive in it at all.

Than you have not to worry about a possibility which is unlikely.

Vanessa

Angelina

Sure!😉

HHelen Yes.

Already decided or still hesitating to do this?

HHelen I have the same impression, but, again, @BikelockFugitive thinks differently.

But he's very skilled in lockpicking.

HHelen Basically you want to unlock and lock it back secretly.

It would be useful for us!😉

Angelina

Similar for many of us!😉

HHelen I was not successive in it at all.

Another reason to not think your daughter manage it easily.

Joh

@Lana.

Tobbe

Joh We talk around each other!
You are before the chastity belt has even been discussed. Can work and probably does for most families. But those who have already chosen chastity belt as a solution to the "problem", then it is too late to come up with all the points you list.

I mainly wanted to point out the consequence of being tempted to open the belt illegally.
Do not have a big discussion about alternatives to chastity belt, when it already exists and is used in the family.

HHelen

Joh Than you have not to worry about a possibility which is unlikely.

I didn't need it that much.

Vanessa But he's very skilled in lockpicking.

He claims that every girl is able to do the same.

Joh

Tobbe
I agree with you if they cheat and it comes out it will have consequences. In any cases.

You can make it as safe as possible but there will always be a way around it. Sure the effort increases.
However, if there is mutual trust in the commitments, the security becomes obsolete. This is my point. Instead to spend a lot of effort to make the belt more save spend the effort in your relation.

Angelina

Joh Instead to spend a lot of effort to make the belt more save spend the effort in your relation.

why don't you think both are possible? i think it can work to work on the parent-daughter relationship and use the belt as a complementary tool. of course i think it should be on a voluntary basis, but i don't want to rule out that it can work that way.

Joh

Angelina why don't you think both are possible?

Oh, I think both is possible but it will only work fine if they have an agreement which fits both.
As an example, I can't remember her name, she has an agreement with her parents. She lives in another town and she wears the belt all time but has 1 hour time every evening to open it for cleaning and for fun. In exchange she got a car and the money for the school and living.

Ines

Joh She lives in another town and she wears the belt all time but has 1 hour time every evening to open it for cleaning and for fun. In exchange she got a car and the money for the school and living.

I do not share it.
A girl should not have responsibility about her belt.
I am against the wearer can have any power about her belt.

Angelina

Joh Oh, I think both is possible but it will only work fine if they have an agreement which fits both.
As an example, I can't remember her name, she has an agreement with her parents. She lives in another town and she wears the belt all time but has 1 hour time every evening to open it for cleaning and for fun. In exchange she got a car and the money for the school and living.

@Lana, yes this agreement was really very well structured

JonesMacGyver Keeping passwords in your head works great... Until you get get older and start forgetting them... 🤣

if I forget something it was not so important 😉

HHelen He claims that every girl is able to do the same.

and it is precisely this point that I doubt, but it is certainly possible with a lot of training

JonesMacGyver

Angelina Keeping passwords in your head works great... Until you get get older and start forgetting them... 🤣

Joh

Vanessa
Thank you.I referred to her.

Joh

Ines
I know and we will never agree on this. But I accept your intention.
For you it seems to be the right thing.

Vanessa

Ines I am against the wearer can have any power about her belt.

Even if you have,as you can say you would stop wearing it,and your parents would give you the key.You would not do it as you're a willingly wearer,but you can.

Most of the reluctant wearers can too,if they accept the consequences.As the convinced ones,if they accept to lose the advantages.

HHelen He claims that every girl is able to do the same.

But many here have strong doubts about it.

GoodyProctor Learning it if you're being watched all the time, that's a different matter.

Which seem close to @HHelen's daughter's case.I doubt she can learn it without her mother knowing it.

Ines

Joh I know and we will never agree on this. But I accept your intention

😂
I know it too, if we agree everytime, a forum would be inutile.

Joh

Ines
Not inutele but boring 😂

GoodyProctor

Anyone with functioning fingers and decent dexterity can learn to pick a basic lock in a matter of hours. I once learned it myself because I was bored though I'm out of practice now, laughs. Learning it if you're being watched all the time, that's a different matter.

Angelina

GoodyProctor

the question is not whether we can do it, but whether we can put the padlock back on without any problems.

Ines

Vanessa
I mean, Vanessa, further the decision of wear it or not.
Let me an example:
You can choose make a diet or not, but if you are on diet you, for example, should not eat bread.
Can you eat bread? Yes, but the you are not on a diet then.
Chastity belt the same, can a girl be keyholder? Can a girl have the key? Can a girl to decide when opening the belt?
The answer is yes, but then, she is not wearing a chastity belt.
A girl can choose to make a diet or not, but if she chooses diet, then she can not eat Nutella sandwiches.

HHelen

Vanessa I doubt she can learn it without her mother knowing it.

And it will be changing soon.

Angelina

Vanessa .As the convinced ones,if they accept to lose the advantages.

right for some who get something for wearing the belt the advantages outweigh the disadvantages

HHelen And it will be changing soon.

what exactly do you mean by that ?

Tobbe

Ines she is not wearing a chastity belt.>

One thing must be - how far from the keys she is?
If she use it as an anti-rape protection and goes out, but all the keys are at home.
Then this must be wearing a chastity belt?

Vanessa

Ines

Thank you for your explanation,I understand better your meaning.

HHelen

Why?If I've understood well,she would still live at home during her studies.

Angelina right for some who get something for wearing the belt the advantages outweigh the disadvantages

Yes,no bad consequences but losing all the advantages she got by accepting to wear it,and so,using the same rules than before she started to wear it,which can be hard to accept...

Ines

Tobbe
No.
I am not criticizing that, but since she is only wearing it as a tool for protection, it is not the philosophy of a chastity belt.
Just my opinion, of course.

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