Wishing To Live In A Slightly Better World

audioguy58 There are people who have great expertise in building things that fit the human body; they’re called orthotists or artificial-limb-and-brace makers. The problem is that you or I cannot purchase their services without a doctor’s prescription.

Yeah you can. You just have to know where to go. ;-)

audioguy58 building things that fit the human body; they’re called orthotists or artificial-limb-and-brace makers.

In my family one of them makes every modification and enhancement of our belts.

@toad @audioguy58 I already live in a slightly better world in that I don't need any court to be involved.
Like most real people I wasn't abused it was just a tool or clothes. The horror movies like Mad Max will make people assume the worst.

Raquel In my family one of them makes every modification and enhancement of our belts.

We have been friends with one such Doctor for a long time but he is easily frightened of topics that might be controversial

audioguy58 Under the laws of the United States as they’re currently written, any maker of chastity belts has to label his product with a “novelty disclaimer”. Why does the seller have to do this? Basically there are two reasons:

First of all, if he did not do this, the belt would come under the jurisdiction of the Food and Drug Administration as a “medical device”.

I suspect that in the EU countries the procedure would be exactly the opposite - every chastity belt manufacturer would very much like his product to be a so-called "medicinal product" because thanks to this he would have a reduced VAT rate on his products (for example, in Poland it would be 8% and not 23%, which makes a big difference). Therefore, whenever there is a legal possibility, sex products are registered as medicinal products, the best examples of which are condoms, lubricants or enema devices. Given that simple medical devices are registered in the EU only on the basis of a notification and a declaration of compliance (which are quite general and rather easy to meet), I will not be surprised if one of the belt manufacturers tries to apply for registration.

audioguy58 they’re called orthotists or artificial-limb-and-brace makers. The problem is that you or I cannot purchase their services without a doctor’s prescription

American law can be strange (from a European point of view), but I find it hard to believe that there is no legal way to purchase orthopedic devices without a prescription.

Andrew American law can be strange (from a European point of view), but I find it hard to believe that there is no legal way to purchase orthopedic devices without a prescription.

You can purchase "generic" orthopedic devices such as an adjustable knee brace from most medical supply stores with no problem. But custom-built equipment that must closely fit the human body (like a prosthetic limb or a specialized support device) requires a doctor's prescription.

Mind you, my information is some years out of date. My source is my experience with the car accident quite a few years ago that nearly crushed both my legs. I was wearing specialized braces built to fit my legs and torso for a couple of years before it all healed up. (It's one reason that wearing a belt isn't that big a deal to me -- those braces were made as comfortably as possible, but they were a real hassle to wear all the time.)

Saintprudence But custom-built equipment that must closely fit the human body (like a prosthetic limb or a specialized support device) requires a doctor's prescription.

Not here.

I mean, it makes sense to at least prioritize people with legitimate medical need (as evidenced by things like prescriptions). If the manufacturers only have enough production capacity to serve those with such a need (which seems likely, given that for most custom-fit medical devices there are probably very few people paying full price for "recreational use"), that would make it very hard to get something without one.

Saintprudence True, I should have made clear I was speaking of the USA.

No, no, Prudence, you were clear, I was surprised about difference.

Andrew

i see it a bit like the canabis legalisation that will soon happen in germany. if there are legal ways under strict conditions, the users/wearer can be better protected than with illegal ways, but in general i think it is right that parents would not have this possibility, but i would find it ok if a judge is allowed to order it.

audioguy58 “An anti-libertarian, totalitarian utopia.”

hopefully it remains a utopia, i really don't want such a police state

and if i follow the discussion here, the rest of the topic could also be renamed "orthopaedic chastity belts" haha

Angelina at least the involuntary ones here (like me) would be protected a bit

But you said yourself elsewhere, that you are more or less bribed and therefore wear the belt. No legal system will get you all the conveniences (e. g. your own car) that you got in return for accepting the belt, without actually accepting the belt.
Legally only those wearers would be more protected who are actually forced to wear the belt, if there was such clarification of the laws.

Saintprudence But custom-built equipment that must closely fit the human body (like a prosthetic limb or a specialized support device) requires a doctor's prescription.

I don't know where you are from but I am pretty sure that's wrong.
You can of course find the orthopaedic technician you trust and ask him to build whatever you want and his skills can produce. The actual issue is not the prescription but costs involved. Made to measure medical braces etc can easily cost hundreds if not thousands of Euros. But if you have the money, there is nothing illegal about buying your own stuff.

curious

yes, you are actually right, although it depends more on what i no longer have when i no longer wear the belt (a car would then still be a small problem). i just think i could accept it better if a judge says i need a belt than that my father simply decides so, as i said i am very divided on this.

Angelina
Maybe look at it this way:
As long as your are not by physical force kept in your belt, you are at least partially a volunatary wearer from where I stand. Yes, your father might reduce the financial support to whatever he is required to provide by law instead of being rather generous in that area, In that case I would call your wearing a result of bribery. If he threatens to disinherit you or something along that line, it is not bribery but coercion. But still if you value your freedom from the belt only high enough, you could be free. For that reason I would not categorise you as involuntary wearer but as bribed or coerced wearer.
In life we always have to sacrifice one thing or the other in order to gain something else. For the most time these choices do not include a chastity belt but they can be just as annoying.

curious

So in everything I've read here, no one has been forced into the belt with physical force. every belt can also be broken open, so looking at it like that, i know how to get out. it's a matter of consideration for me, i wear the belt because i don't want the consequences of not wearing it, there are only a little more than 5 months left, after more than 4 years i will still manage the last stage. However, I describe myself as involuntary because on the one hand I cannot say no without fearing bad consequences and on the other hand I am not convinced of the belt, so I see no good reason for me to wear the belt.

Sin problem with cages are that they aren't effective on everyone especially if the wearer's desperate. It's easier to secure the testicles than the offending meat stick above it.

I'm sure there's a better solution out there, heck I think there are anti-hormonal drugs you could employ.

I think a healthy community culture and upbringing environment is a sufficiently effective prevention method however, and if anything that is effective for some, religion as a tool can work. When that fails, you get problems like the outreached communities (yes, even in our state of WA) that are currently being subjected to rape and fratricide

audioguy58 Secondly, Implied Warranty of Merchantability would come into play, meaning that the belt maker could be sued and/or face possible enforcement action from the Federal Trade Commission and/or state attorneys general if any individual consumer wishes to argue that the seller’s product is ineffective at its ostensible purpose. If you sell something as a toaster, it has to be able to toast bread. If you sell something as a mousetrap, it has to be able to catch mice.

Considering how sketchy technology laws and things like warranty has gotten, I'm sure they'd be able to weave their way out of trouble with disclaimers somehow if a CB failed to prevent pregenancy for whatever reason (e.g. belt is only specified against seminal injection through rigid syringes greater than 2mm, and is ineffective if the belt was unlocked for whatever reason)

audioguy58 I would like to live in an “information perfect” world where every aspect of your life was represented by fields in control blocks (“documents”) residing in cloud storage.

so like china? If you provide the governement with too much control you'll end up with their 1984 situation again. Even Australia, a country that is/was ranked higher on the human rights spectrum than U.S. is undergoing similar issues currently with increased control over what the police can do as of late.

audioguy58 any piece of information about me that you are legally allowed to look up would be available online for free.

That's saying a lot, and even if you can't legally get some information yourself as it would be considered stalking or something along those lines, you could always pay a private investigator, which does have the legal rights beyond a regular civilian

audioguy58 Encrypted security certificates would be everywhere

If there's a will, there's a way. Hacker communities will always enjoy this privilege the most.

Raquel In my family one of them makes every modification and enhancement of our belts.

I may have missed it, but what's that modification/enhancement?

curious Made to measure medical braces etc can easily cost hundreds if not thousands of Euros.

aren't there some that literally cost as much as a moderately sized family car?

Angelina i just think i could accept it better if a judge says i need a belt than that my father simply decides so, as i said i am very divided on this.

Don't readily give up your basic human rights just because someone else said you don't deserve it. Giving up control leaves room for bad actors to exploit.

zbovka I think there are anti-hormonal drugs you could employ.

That is among the most catastrophic suggestions I have read here. Messing with hormones has tons of side effects and I would argue that even the strictest belt with accessories is better for your health than messing with hormones, even more so when you have apparently no clue what you are actually doing to the body.