Chastity Belt Design Innovations

WriterAlexis

Sorta wonder what would motivate a religious conservative sex-negative family to get one for their daughter

At my request, for the reason I outlined above. I am not wholly without power in my family dynamic, especially as I get older. And if I am going to be belted, I am going to seek as much comfort as feasible. It is not the first time I have requested physical modifications.

Here's the goods, only look, don't touch

I won't spontaneously strike up a conversation with my mom about this, but I have a very different outlook. It may be biased by my high baseline of anxiety, but I would sometimes freakout because I couldn't even see my genitals. What if they weren't still there? To me, it actually seems less restrictive that I get to see her and say 'Hi' every morning.

Besides, everyone here who is having supervised showers/releases also gets to see and not touch. With at least a second person seeing, to boot.

youdontknowme

WriterAlexis I am not wholly without power in my family dynamic, especially as I get older.

Glad to hear. I feel like what you often hear about families with extreme views is how a feeling of powerlessness on the offspring's side is considered a feature, not a bug. I am happy to hear that despite your less-than-consensual situation, your agency as a person is respected.

WriterAlexis What if they weren't still there? To me, it actually seems less restrictive that I get to see her and say 'Hi' every morning.

If it was your idea, it definitely makes sense. But looking at Fancysteel's product catalog, that thing kinda leaves an impression of "the porn belt". FS produces a lot of adult entertainment media, so in that context it makes it feel like the clear shield was, at least as far as FS is concerned, not so much designed for the wearer's viewing, but for more voyeuristic purposes. Which seems somewhat antithetical to the modesty enforcement that more traditional shields provide (and that seems much more in line with conservative values)

But yeah, anxiety handling seems a lot more valid than that.

WriterAlexis Besides, everyone here who is having supervised showers/releases also gets to see and not touch.

I mean, I would assume touch is part of any proper cleaning regimen, and it is more the type and duration of touch that is restricted. But that is just a side note, the key difference I see is that in the case of a hygiene unlock, the exposure is just a side effect of technical necessities to get that area clean, while for the clear shield, it is a deliberate design choice.

Also, I sincerely hope that anyone who is forbidden from masturbating for an extended period of time gets hygiene unlocks more often than permission for... ahem... recreational touching of those areas.

WriterAlexis

youdontknowme

your agency as a person is respected.

Nobody is ever going to hand you your dreams. You must demand them.

permission for... ahem... recreational touching of those areas.

Ever since I lost my unsupervised release privileges, I have been making a rousing argument for having the right to full bodily autonomy. Namely, to use all parts of myself for all purposes for which they were designed, including pleasure, and to share that pleasure with whomever consents to do so. Now I realize that is an extreme counter position, even for mainstream parenting standards. But I'm hoping to negotiate it down to 20 minutes in the bathroom with my electric toothbrush once a week. Sometimes a girl needs to really just focus on her dental hygiene, you know? All I need to devise is a reason it has to be done completely in the nude.

Ines

WriterAlexis Namely, to use all parts of myself for all purposes for which they were designed, including pleasure,

If such thing is allowed... why do you have to wear a chastity belt?

WriterAlexis But I'm hoping to negotiate it down to 20 minutes in the bathroom with my electric toothbrush once a week. Sometimes a girl needs to really just focus on her dental hygiene, you know? All I need to devise is a reason it has to be done completely in the nude.

Dental hygiene... of course.

youdontknowme But looking at Fancysteel's product catalog, that thing kinda leaves an impression of "the porn belt".

Shared feeling.

youdontknowme

WriterAlexis Namely, to use all parts of myself for all purposes for which they were designed, including pleasure, and to share that pleasure with whomever consents to do so. Now I realize that is an extreme counter position, even for mainstream parenting standards.

Depending on your age, I would not call that extreme. It would be quite radical to expect them to be happy about it, sure, but if you are too old for strict curfews, "begrudgingly tolerate while voicing disapproval" is a perfectly normal parenting approach. Once again, your reluctance in revealing anything about your age makes it hard to contextualize your posts.

WriterAlexis Nobody is ever going to hand you your dreams. You must demand them.

You seem to be a capable fighter.

WriterAlexis Sometimes a girl needs to really just focus on her dental hygiene, you know? All I need to devise is a reason it has to be done completely in the nude.

Dental hygiene is just a part of body hygiene, and taking care of that typically requires full nudity. That is the whole reason bathrooms have locks, so you can take care of all your body's hygiene needs even if you are modest about nudity, without anyone disturbing you.

It makes complete sense. Take off your clothes, take off your belt, use the toilet, clean your dirty body in the shower, take care of your grooming needs, clean your dirty teeth and... clean your dirty mind. Just a complete hygine package that certainly has to involve both complete nudity and an electric toothbrush.

youdontknowme

Ines If such thing is allowed... why do you have to wear a chastity belt?

I mean, it seems obvious that she and her parents disagree on what her rights are. So if their position on it is pretty far from what she can tolerate, it seems only fair that she enters negotiations with a position that is equally far from what they can tolerate.

MissBlossom Something something importance of setting achievable goals and having realistic expectations something something. lol

I reckon unrelieved arousal is not going to help her get her mind any cleaner.

WriterAlexis All I need to devise is a reason it has to be done completely in the nude.

Also, I would argue that one should not really need a good reason for being completely nude in the privacy of your own home, but the sort of parents that lock their daughters into chastity belts will probably disagree on that.

MissBlossom

youdontknowme clean your dirty mind

Something something importance of setting achievable goals and having realistic expectations something something. lol

Ines

youdontknowme . So if their position on it is pretty far from what she can tolerate, it seems only fair that she enters negotiations with a position that is equally far from what they can tolerate.

Agree. However it seems that she accepts her parents authority.

MissBlossom

youdontknowme
I was joking that for some of us cleaning our dirty mind is not an achievable goal or a reasonable expectation! lol

youdontknowme

Ines Agree. However it seems that she accepts her parents authority

Seems a bit more complex than that to me. Accept seems like a strong word from the impression I get, it seems closer to "conditionally tolerate".

Ines

youdontknowme Seems a bit more complex than that to me. Accept seems like a strong word from the impression I get, it seems closer to "conditionally tolerate".

Yes, I see that she is not devoted, but it seems that without her acceptance she would not have to wear a belt.
In my family there are women more actively involved and other less, but everyone of us is a willingly user.

youdontknowme

MissBlossom That it will never be completely clean is a given. But going from climbing-the-walls-horny to normal naughty person could still be a considerable improvement.

WriterAlexis

youdontknowme

Kaboom. I'm borrowing this line and polishing it a bit.

Angelina

youdontknowme honestly the transparent shield seems very pornographic to me.

I also think it's unsuitable for a parent/child constellation, but I find it interesting for a couple constellation, it's so close and yet so far away 😃
but i will admit it, it would drive me crazy to be able to see my private parts all day but not be able to touch them

WriterAlexis

Angelina

it would drive me crazy to be able to see my private parts all day but not be able to touch them

I'm not looking at them all day. In fact, I see them about exactly as often as anybody else. Even without a physical barrier, for hundreds of years women have been told that their genitals are inferior, shameful, and not to be touched. The psychological barrier foisted on a billion women has been far more insidious.

Because I like to play with narrative structure, the past month has inspired me to work on a modern adaptation of Persephone and Hades, except I've personified my genitals into Cate (short for Hecate) as the goddess of magic, pleasure, and the Moon. She's been locked away in a cage made by Hephaestus. I have to fight to free her, and then she will one day grant me powers and pleasure.

Angelina

WriterAlexis I'm not looking at them all day

I've never done that either, but I often had situations in which I lay in bed in the evening (without pants) and looked at my locked abdomen. If I could see everything now and not touch it, I would certainly go crazy

youdontknowme

Angelina , but I often had situations in which I lay in bed in the evening (without pants) and looked at my locked abdomen

I reckon that as a liberal German, you probably spend more time without clothes than an American from a Mormon family.

Angelina

youdontknowme I reckon that as a liberal German, you probably spend more time without clothes than an American from a Mormon family.

that may be, of course, but i still maintain that it would probably have frustrated me even more if i had been able to see my private parts all the time.

Avery

youdontknowme I reckon that as a liberal German, you probably spend more time without clothes than an American from a Mormon family.

Probably correct, but I doubt the Mormon fathers watch their daughters shower.

George

youdontknowme

youdontknowme religious conservative sex-negative family

er, these nice people do often have mindsets that seem medieval, old-testament style to the rest of the world.

And can sometimes be mistaken for Middle Eastern nightmares. In the case where "fundamentalist" takes over as dominant word, even over Christian.

youdontknowme

George Yeah, the only context in which such invasive controls of someone's sex life, ultraconservatism and a garment that shows off the "goods" together made sense to my mind was the one where a daughter gets traded for ten goats and three camels. Glad to hear that the clear shield was actually her idea and not that of her parents.

WriterAlexis

George

I think it can be the case even in mainline Protestantism, depending which part of the country it is in.

Mostly, I gleefully watch as the various churches devour themselves in a foregone culture war, and we steadily secularize in the fashion of western Europe.

George

WriterAlexis we steadily secularize in the fashion of western Europe.

Sorry, but from looking in from the outside you don't. Even most American atheists show social religious conventions. (While in most EU states, even the "believers" show religious conventions in public perhaps a dozen times a year.) Just observation as mentioned from the outside, and a little observations from my American coworkers that I happen to meet at least once a year.

Religion is getting politicized in the USA, by the conservatives. So it will not go away quietly as it has here.

(Although I admit that the church tax that the Nazis introduced, but somehow never got canceled, greedy Church, is an incredible great impulse in Austria/Germany for people to officially resign from the Church, it's usually driven by some scandal/dick move from their Church, and then the tax bill shows up in the mail, and people literally pilgrimage to the authorities to change their official religion to atheist.)

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