Guaranteed virginity until marriage

Angelina

HHelen I hope she is ashamed.

hmm... you hope? i thought you could notice it by how often she asks.

HHelen And when she becomes a student it should be more rare.

i think once a week should also be possible during the studies, at least on weekends.

HHelen

Angelina i thought you could notice it by how often she asks

No, it depends on other things.

Vanessa But,why less often when she becomes a student?

Because she shouldn't waste her time and energy for it.

Vanessa And what if she hasn't reduced(or not reduced enough in your opinion)when she's a student?

It will be my choice only, because we know, the belt works.

Kurt By questioning again and again maybe she lose the shame.

If she asks too frequently, the secondary shield will remain locked for longer time.

Vanessa

Angelina I think it depends on how high the shame threshold is. 😉

Sure,but for now,she still ask often,it seems.

Angelina So it seems she is a bit uncomfortable to ask?

Understandable.

Angelina i'm more honest, i say masturbate 😉

Me too,generally.But "solo sex" work,too.

Kurt

I agree.

HHelen And I like it.

Not surprising!

HHelen Not more than once a week. And when she becomes a student it should be more rare.

That is not often,even if better than nothing.Less would be hard for her...

But,why less often when she becomes a student?

And what if she hasn't reduced(or not reduced enough in your opinion)when she's a student?

HHelen I hope she is ashamed.

Do you think it is the case?

Jonas

Vanessa But,why less often when she becomes a student?

Maybe she's expected to control herself more and more as she gets older? A lot of people see masturbation as a phase young adults are supposed to pass through.

Angelina

Vanessa And what if she hasn't reduced(or not reduced enough in your opinion)when she's a student?

i fear the abstinence belt will then become a chastity belt 🙁

Kurt By questioning again and again maybe she lose the shame.

that's right, it can have a habitual effect

Vanessa

Jonas

As long as she's single,or not allowed to have sex with a boyfriend/girlfriend,and not do it excessively,it it logical she does it,I think.

And I think single students does it often...

Jonas

Vanessa As things stand; it can't get out of control as her mother won't let it. I wish that my family had set such limits for me.

Kurt

HHelen I hope she is ashamed.

And what is when the opposite effect taking place? By questioning again and again maybe she lose the shame.

Vanessa

Kurt

I thought it can happen,too.It can become common for her to ask.

Angelina i fear the abstinence belt will then become a chastity belt 🙁

I think it is a risk,yes.

HHelen Because she shouldn't waste her time and energy for it.

As long as it doesn't affect her studies,it should be ok.And I doubt she would spend so much time and energy doing it that her studies would be badly impacted.

HHelen It will be my choice only, because we know, the belt works.

So,she would not be allowed to ask to take it off,but would have to wait you decide to take it off?She could be way less cooperative about wearing the belt,so.

Angelina already now or only when she starts her studies ?

Now;she told it is a punishment if she insists to have it off during the day,too.

Angelina therefore such conditions should be clarified beforehand

I agree.Changing the rules after she accepted to wear it is not a good idea(and very unfair).

Jonas

Angelina i fear the abstinence belt will then become a chastity belt

HHelen It will be my choice only, because we know, the belt works.

I think @HHelen reserves the right to use it as full chastity belt when/if she decides it's appropriate. It's like I wrote here: https://unwedchastity.org/d/70-excessive-masturbation/230 "wearers find they have to explain to someone else why they should be allowed to masturbate."

Angelina

HHelen No, it depends on other things.

which ones, for example ?

HHelen If she asks too frequently, the secondary shield will remain locked for longer time.

already now or only when she starts her studies ?

Jonas wearers find they have to explain to someone else why they should be allowed to masturbate."

which of course is not easy and yes i agree this can turn the abstinence belt into a chastity belt. therefore such conditions should be clarified beforehand

HHelen

Jonas I think @HHelen reserves the right to use it as full chastity belt when/if she decides it's appropriate

Her university studies will allow me to amend the agreement.

Angelina already now or only when she starts her studies ?

Now. She will not have this privilege when she starts her studies.

Vanessa As long as it doesn't affect her studies,it should be ok

Your parents had a different opinion and they wanted to prevent masturbation.

Vanessa So,she would not be allowed to ask to take it off,but would have to wait you decide to take it off?

She would be allowed to ask, but I decide.

Vanessa Changing the rules after she accepted to wear it is not a good idea(and very unfair).

If she wants me to pay for her university, it's fair.

Jonas

Angelina

Angelina i agree this can turn the abstinence belt into a chastity belt. therefore such conditions should be clarified beforehand

If both agree that masturbation is a sexual act then it's fair to use a chastity belt to prevent it.

But I agree with you that this should be clarified.

Angelina

Jonas If both agree that masturbation is a sexual act then it's fair to use a chastity belt to prevent it.

I think very few would argue that it is not a sexual act, the question is rather what the belt is meant to prevent.?

Jonas

Angelina I think over on the MisterPoll discussions someone pointed out that the front shield of female belts gets wider in line with the clitoris. In combination with the development of the secondary shield I think it is clear that belts are designed to prevent both intercourse and masturbation.

Whether wearers and keyholders have that purpose in mind is, of course, up to them to decide.

Angelina

Jonas Whether wearers and keyholders have that purpose in mind is, of course, up to them to decide.

that's what i mean and i think that's the main question, everything else can be managed with a key 😉

Vanessa Now;she told it is a punishment if she insists to have it off during the day,too.

a punishment is still different from a change of the rules, i have explained this in detail 😉

Laura

Vanessa As long as it doesn't affect her studies,it should be ok.And I doubt she would spend so much time and energy doing it that her studies would be badly impacted.

Wasn't it your case when you were a student?

Vanessa

Laura Wasn't it your case when you were a student?

No,it didn't impact badly my studies.I think it rarely had such impact if not excessive.

Angelina a punishment is still different from a change of the rules, i have explained this in detail 😉

But everyone may not have the same definition!😉

HHelen Her university studies will allow me to amend the agreement.

Does she know it?

If yes,I guess she would not be surprised with this change...

HHelen Your parents had a different opinion and they wanted to prevent masturbation.

Yes,but they never thought it was necessary for making me study better.And I think too,there is a very limited impact(it can even make her a better student if she can relieve her urges and relax a bit this way before reviewing the lessons).

HHelen She would be allowed to ask, but I decide.

How often do you plan to allow it,after she's a student?Would she be punished if she ask for it once every day?

HHelen If she wants me to pay for her university, it's fair.

As long as the rules have changed after she accepted it(and especially if she doesn't willingly agree with these changes),no,it isn't.

HHelen Her university studies was the actual goal of this chastity belt "project".

Wasn't it because she date someone?

Jonas Increased secondary shield use isn't going to be welcomed.

I think so,too,and she can be way less cooperative about wearing it.Depending on her personality,and possibility to earn some money to pay for her studies,it may end in not accepting to wear it at all.

Jonas

Angelina

"managed with a key"

I should get this on a tee-shirt. 😀

Angelina

Jonas I should get this on a tee-shirt. 😀

maybe 😉

HHelen Now. She will not have this privilege when she starts her studies.

just so i understand, it means no more breaks once she studies ?

Jonas

@Jonas I think @HHelen reserves the right to use it as full chastity belt when/if she decides it's appropriate

HHelen Her university studies will allow me to amend the agreement.

Ah, I have done you a disservice, my apologies Helen. Stricter rules would follow on from a renegotiation before university studies. I understand now.

HHelen If she wants me to pay for her university, it's fair.

Although your leverage would be at a maximum at this point, this would be a new deal struck between adults. So, it wouldn't be unfair.

Furthermore, when she looks back at the deal in the future, she may well notice that you both paid her fees and worked to protect her virtue until marriage.

HHelen

Jonas Stricter rules would follow on from a renegotiation before university studies.

Her university studies was the actual goal of this chastity belt "project".

Jonas Although your leverage would be at a maximum at this point

I don't think it would at a maximum.

Jonas she may well notice that you both paid her fees and worked to protect her virtue until marriage.

I think so too.

Angelina just so i understand, it means no more breaks once she studies ?

Or minimal.

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