Milord Using study money to push your daughter into a chastity belt is blackmail.

This might be a translation issue or just a word choice made in a hurry to reply but using study money to get someone to wear a chastity belt is bribery not blackmail. Blackmail is threatening to reveal secrets unless the victim pays money or some other benefit. Extortion is threating harm or violence unless the victim pays money or some other benefit. Bribery is money or some other benefit given to get the victim to do something or act in a particulat way.

      Tjc You could argue extortion if you view it as threatening the victim's ability to to get a proper education, if the societal norm is that the parent shall provide such funding to the best of their ability without similar strings attached. If on the other hand wearing the chastity belt results in a (financial) reward that would not otherwise be expected, that would not even be bribery in the morally problematic sense of the word (which usually involves the recipient doing some morally or legally questionable stuff in exchange for the money, like defrauding their employer or violating their oath of office), that would just be a trade.

          youdontknowme

          @Tjc

          Youdontknowme expressed very well. Blackmail in English is narrower than in Italian equivalent “ricatto”, so yes, I used improperly
          “Extortion” will be more fitted, but I will expand the idea: for the moral system I live parents have the moral obligation to provide the best education they can afford. Failure to do so is normally considered bad parenting (in some case also an illicit). So putting condition on something that normally should be done is an extortion.

          I often discussed with @Ines and we agree that providing emotional, financial support, and studies in exchange for wearing a chastity belt can be considered forced belting.

          Moreover, you can never consider it a trade, because this kind of rights cannot be part of a negotiation (exactly as you can sell your freedom)

          In the months here I understood that USA has a very different social approach to parenting, and that in the field of human rights, USA, in my opinion, can be considered a third-world country, so I can understand what is unacceptable in Europe is not a big deal in USA

            Milord Using study money to push your daughter into a chastity belt is blackmail. Even if you don't throw her out of your house. It’s almost by definition financial blackmail.

            Education is not a vital thing.

                Let me please jump in and defend @HHelen. I think this may be a translation issue. "Vital" and "legal" may be getting confused here. In the USA all children are provided a free education up until the age of 18, of which they can drop out at that time. Post secondary education is up the parents if the wish to pay for that, as I, and many parents do. @Susan and @Kate2 know that I will pay for any schooling that they want, including master degrees, etc. if they want to pursue those.

                As it relates to CB wearing, @HHelen, as I understand it, has a daughter that is in college now, so she obviously values education and prefers her daughter wears a belt to minimize distractions and focus on schooling. Same as I do...

                  Jenna you will pay for their education even if they refuse to be belted?

                      Milord Yes I will. Education for girls is so important to me. It is the best way to be sure they are able to take care of themselves and not be dependent on others.

                          Jenna

                          Exactly! @HHelen will not. Differently for you, if her daughter will stop wearing (something that, you will have to admit, is a perfectly legitimate personal choice), she will no longer pay for it.

                          To me this is not “caring for her education”

                              Milord I will not pass judgement on @HHelen, who values I mostly align with. She obviously places a great deal of value on her daughter wearing a belt, as I do for my Susan and Kate. Her daughter chooses to wear a belt, which is to be commended. I see nothing wrong with their arrangement.

                                  HHelen No, it doesn't depend on her jib.

                                  then again the question: why should your daughter voluntarily accept to wear the belt if she doesn't like it and is no longer financially dependent on you?

                                  HHelen Education is not a vital thing.

                                  i would clearly disagree here, education is knowledge, knowledge is power and power is money

                                  Jenna Same as I do...

                                  well, i think you would continue to finance your nieces' education even without a belt? that's the point

                                          Angelina I prefer that they wear the belt, that is obvious, but I will not withhold educational funding if they decided not to.

                                          Angelina i would clearly disagree here, education is knowledge, knowledge is power and power is money

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                                                Angelina i would clearly disagree here, education is knowledge, knowledge is power and power is money

                                                Knowledge is power, time is money, power is energy per time. Ergo knowledge is energy per money, or money is energy divided by knowledge. So for a given amount of energy, less knowledge means more money. That certainly explains the salary of some executives 😛

                                                    Jenna I prefer that they wear the belt, that is obvious, but I will not withhold educational funding if they decided not to.

                                                    and that seems to me to be the difference to what @HHelen does

                                                    youdontknowme So for a given amount of energy, less knowledge means more money. That certainly explains the salary of some executives 😛

                                                    so somehow i learnt it differently during my studies 😂

                                                          Jenna

                                                          Unless her daughter wants to pass her life on the lowest possible wage, she had to submit to the belt. This is not free
                                                          And while I’m not you fan, I have to admit you are much better than @HHelen

                                                              Angelina so somehow i learnt it differently during my studies 😂

                                                              Maybe what you learned is this:
                                                              To turn your girlfriend into a wife, you need to invest a lot of time and money into the relationship. So a wife is the product of time and money:
                                                              Wife = Time * Money
                                                              But we all know that time is money, so
                                                              Wife = Money * Money = Money2
                                                              Since money is the root of all evil,
                                                              Wife = sqrt(Evil)2 = Evil