Advice for potential new Keyholders

Ines

IMO a chastity belt guarantees something much further than a "non scandalous", - please do not take offense-, behavior.
A belt imposes a perfectly straight moral behavior of absolute absence of sexual relief, and for sure it is much more than a woman can offer without the belt.
So, if the state of art of the virtue is the standard, then is not acceptable than in a family some women have to use it and other no.
Repeat, it is only my opinion.

Sasha

Ines I can see that point of view, and don’t worry no offense taken.
Though while mom is going to be in one, I really can’t see my siblings also being in one

MissBlossom

Ines is not acceptable than in a family some women have to use it and other no.

If anyone "has" to use it, it's not consensual.

If each person decides for themselves what restrictions they will consent to, the possibility must exist for different people to consent to different levels of restriction.

Ines

Sasha

Obviously I respect the dynamic of your family since no one is being forced, but again in my opinion, ( it is a forum so I treat of compare our points of view) , it only depends on the age of your sister.
Since you and your mother use it, she has very little excuse to do not wear it.

Sasha

Ines My twin siblings are almost 14 now, and as far as I can tell great kids.
Just seems premature/inappropriate pushing for either to be in a device imo. If they asked I’d say worth discussing why, but wouldn’t push for it.

Ines

Sasha

Yes, absolutely. She is still very young.

MissBlossom If anyone "has" to use it, it's not consensual.

This language issue arises periodically. I do not try to mean "forcing" or "imposition", but, for example in my family usage is awaited, expected, endorsed, accepted, seen as needed... It is not forced but I think that a " should " is not proper either.

MissBlossom the possibility must exist for different people to consent to different levels of restriction.

I disagree partially, and I think that every women in my family will do too. If wearing the belt is a tradition, we can accept (more or less) that another girl does not use it, but is absolutely unacceptable that she has another rules. If she is not happy with the belt she can quit when she want, but make special rules for her, no.

Kaja

Ines I will modife it.

If a girl hast to wear cb 24/7 without relief. Her mum has to wear one too.

If a girl wears cb to prevent overmasturbation or uncontrollable and risky sex or sex before mariage, but she has time to reliefe and masturbate. Her mum doesnt need to wear one (if she dont have the same issues).

Ines

Kaja

You are not saying a nonsense, but I could accept it only if belt was the last resource. If the belt arises as the first of the solutions, mother has not excuses.
However you know that, in my case, such breaks are likely impossible.

Angelina

Sasha Given the general description of her attitude, I'd tend to think that Jane thought something was up and went along to see what. But never would have agreed to the real reason.

She was probably just told that there was a conversation with a girl in a belt and her aunt, she was virtually lured into a trap.

Susan

Angelina She had a pretty good idea of what was coming Angelina. She has told me that her mom has never been this upset with her.

Susan

Angelina Can you ask Jane what the rules for wearing the belt and thigh bands should be? I think Monica and Jane will definitely have talked about it

The belt is arriving tomorrow, Jane has told me that. She said they are "going to take it slow", whatever that means. Jane is nervous, I know I was for sure and I think that is normal. AJ has talked a lot with Monica, at least a few times anyway to tell her to chill. We will see what happens. I told her to call me tomorrow night for an update.

Angelina The question is whether Jane knew that and whether she would then have come along at all?

No matter what you think about what your aunt did, there remains a crucial difference. Jenna asked you for consensus beforehand, but Monica didn't do that. There is no consent from Jane (not even a reluctant one like "I don't like it, but I can accept it"). It was decided entirely over Jane's head what should happen and that's a no-go

I do agree with this, at least at the beginning, but now there is dialogue now so Jane doesn't feel quite so trapped. I know she is nervous about trying it. You are right about AJ, she was tough at first but she chilled later on and ultimately got what she wanted. I hope Monica does the same thing, but the circumstances and the urgency are way different.

Sasha

Susan Thanks for the update. Has Jane decided if she’ll join here?

Greatcornbow

Susan The belt is arriving tomorrow, Jane has told me that. She said they are "going to take it slow", whatever that means. Jane is nervous, I know I was for sure and I think that is normal. AJ has talked a lot with Monica, at least a few times anyway to tell her to chill. We will see what happens. I told her to call me tomorrow night for an update.

Taking it slow to start makes sense as it can take some time to adjust to wearing. Maybe Jane can for the first few weeks (only) have a spare key in a sealed envelope?

Susan

Sasha I have mentioned it a few times. I will ask again, but I don't want to be too pushy.

Susan

Sasha She knew it was coming, she knows how pissed her mom was.

Sasha

Susan If it was anything like mine was, I know she was scared as heck and you’re probably right that she saw this as the minimum.
I was actually relieved this and my other restrictions was all she was doing

Jenna

Owl I agree with a lot of what you say here, aside from here getting a chastity belt for herself. i have had conversations with her several times about toning it down. If she is going to be successful she needs Jane to buy into wearing it. As Susan mentioned, the belt is arriving tomorrow. We will have to see how it goes.

Joh

Jenna I support a belt for Monica. She would know first hand the difficulty and the emotional aspects and would be a good example for Jane. I think it will be comforting and easier for Jane if her mother join in.

Susan

I did talk to Jane and the belt did come yesterday. She got a text from her mom saying she needed to come home right after school. Her mom put it on her and told her she needed to start getting used to it and she should expect to wear it whenever she leaves the house, especially at night and on the weekends.

She only wore it for a few hours before her mother unlocked it. She did not have to sleep with it and no thigh bands. She said she did not like it, but she said her mother and her talked many times about why it was necessary to curb her behavior. She agreed to try it out for a while. I told her not to agree to it if she wasn't ready. She knows her mom is angry and wants to curb her. She said she would agree to wear it for a while, whatever that means. Not sure she even knows. She wants peace with her mom.

I told her to call me whenever she wants and that it gets easier.

Angelina

Susan Her mom put it on her and told her she needed to start getting used to it and she should expect to wear it whenever she leaves the house, especially at night and on the weekends.

The question is, is that the short-term goal or the long-term goal? If these are the new conditions, Monica is fortunately away from the idea of wearing 24/7 and Jane doesn't have to give up orgasms completely. The question is, is that so? And if that is the case, then thigh bands make no sense because the belt is enough to prevent sex.

Thanks for the update, I'm excited to see how this develops, it seems like it's going in a more consensus-oriented direction now. I hope to see Jane and/or Monica here on the forum soon

Sasha

Susan she needed to start getting used to it and she should expect to wear it whenever she leaves the house

If that’s the goal the thigh bands make no sense. Since random sex would be what’s be prevented. But I fear that isn’t what her goal is and she’ll be forced into all of it as soon as she’s able to wear the belt for longer periods

Ines

Angelina And if that is the case, then thigh bands make no sense because the belt is enough to prevent sex.

They are purchased for only a reason, for that in this case, in my opinion is very unfair that her mother sets chastity belt unilaterally and only for her daughter. Cheeky.

Susan

Angelina Jane did wear it last weekend, she stayed home and has been wearing it most of the week, but only at home. She has not worn any thigh bands. To be honest I think this is just a period wear each of them is just testing the other. I think Jane knows her mother is serious about this and it is not just some "passing fad".

To be honest, I had hoped with AJ that it would be that way and she would eventually lose interest, But it is just the opposite. She takes it very seriously for Kate and me.

Angelina Thanks for the update, I'm excited to see how this develops, it seems like it's going in a more consensus-oriented direction now. I hope to see Jane and/or Monica here on the forum soon

I do know they talk about it, Jane knows that her circumstances have changed in a big way. Jane said she has checked out the forum. I did when AJ told me about it. It did seem weird seeing people talk about me and not participating, so I finally did join and don't regret it. Maybe she will too.

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