Advice for potential new Keyholders

WriterAlexis

I am far more against the mutilation of vulvas, which is a drastically more serious practice. FGM is still horrifyingly common.

Kaja

WriterAlexis I will not speak about this barbaric habit.

But Im sure that @curious will agree with it when parents want to do it.

Im ashamed but it turn me on (only in fantasy!!) 😧.

curious

Kaja
There is a difference between circumcision and FGM on one side and using a belt on the other.

The first two are permanent changes that last a lifetime. A belt works while it is used but there is no permanent alteration of the body. Ask @Angelina, now that she is free I am sure she will agree that she has not suffered any lasting damage.

Milord

youdontknowme @Kaja @WriterAlexis
children grow and became adults. And you can’t force adult into accepting parents morals. They can educate him, but the church that the parent will force onto him will be avoided when adult. Strict rules will be ignored. Old style education enforced will likely create libertines. Not always of course, but often. We work every day to make my son into a man that trusts me enough to search and appreciate my advices, and independent enough to challenge them.

Kaja

Milord love, love, LOVE!

WriterAlexis

youdontknowme

Same with conversion therapies and stuff like that, but there are still places where that abuse is possible.

28 US states. In 3 of them, the federal courts went so far as to say local bans are unconstitutional.

Angelina

WriterAlexis It is possible that it is a boy Monica does not approve of.

That could be the case, but then Monica has the problem and not Jane. As I understand it, the whole thing was about Jane's bad behavior. Dating a guy Monica doesn't like may not be nice for her, but it's not a problem Jane has

curious You cannot start from your position, that a girl should be free to have whatever kind of sex she likes in this situation.

In theory, a girl has this right, even against the wishes of her parents, as long as she does not commit any criminal acts. Morally, I think some practices are wrong and I would tell my children that too

curious Ask @Angelina, now that she is free I am sure she will agree that she has not suffered any lasting damage.

That's right, but I couldn't have any sexual activity for 4 1/2 years even though I would have liked to have had some and had the right to do so. Not everything that doesn't hurt is right

Jenna

WriterAlexis If I have to explain I don't think I will get you to agree

WriterAlexis

Jenna

I am not necessarily seeking agreement. I am only trying, in good faith, to understand what your reasons are for the beliefs that you hold.

Jenna

WriterAlexis my reasons are that it is wrong for an 18 year old girl to sleep with a married man. She knew it and did it anyway. Sleeping around with lots of others, seemingly of her own age, is slutty behavior.

Milord

Angelina
When I came here your story was one of the worst one I ever read. This forum is full of posts about your sufferings. I felt for you.

Joh

Angelina That's right, but I couldn't have any sexual activity for 4 1/2 years even though I would have liked to have had some and had the right to do so. Not everything that doesn't hurt is right

It may take years to find out whether you really haven't suffered any damage, especially if you continue to be so close to your father when you work for him.

Angelina

Milord This forum is full of posts about your sufferings. I felt for you.

thank you for your participation, i think the forum has helped me a lot to alleviate my suffering, that is perhaps one of the reasons why i am critical of some developments today compared to then because i want others to be helped too

Joh especially if you continue to be so close to your father when you work for him.

that may be, my father and i are very close despite the whole thing with the belt, although we try to keep work and private life separate

Joh

Angelina we try to keep work and private life separate

As long as you not get a distance between your father and yourself you will it is not likely that you can see it. The distance is necessary.

Angelina

Joh

as i have always said, i want distance from my belt, not from my father

HHelen

This topic comes with few interesting ideas.

Laura

HHelen Like what? No belt, no car? 😂

Jenna

HHelen Let's hear them please, Helen.

Ines

HHelen

This is a keyholders thread... feel free to write here.
Not very reasonable to critize the topic of key holders and do not add your own experience to discussion.

Angelina

HHelen

interesting ideas? i don't think so, but i would like to hear your opinion. i find it rather sad and an example of how it can't work

HHelen

Laura No belt, no car?

It's not a case yet.

Jenna Let's hear them please, Helen.

Monica's and Jane's story. Right concept, wrong implementation.

Ines and do not add your own experience to discussion

In what sense?

Angelina i find it rather sad and an example of how it can't work

Right, smart people learn from others' mistakes.

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