Advice for potential new Keyholders

Angelina

Milord This forum is full of posts about your sufferings. I felt for you.

thank you for your participation, i think the forum has helped me a lot to alleviate my suffering, that is perhaps one of the reasons why i am critical of some developments today compared to then because i want others to be helped too

Joh especially if you continue to be so close to your father when you work for him.

that may be, my father and i are very close despite the whole thing with the belt, although we try to keep work and private life separate

Joh

Angelina we try to keep work and private life separate

As long as you not get a distance between your father and yourself you will it is not likely that you can see it. The distance is necessary.

Angelina

Joh

as i have always said, i want distance from my belt, not from my father

HHelen

This topic comes with few interesting ideas.

Laura

HHelen Like what? No belt, no car? 😂

Jenna

HHelen Let's hear them please, Helen.

Ines

HHelen

This is a keyholders thread... feel free to write here.
Not very reasonable to critize the topic of key holders and do not add your own experience to discussion.

Angelina

HHelen

interesting ideas? i don't think so, but i would like to hear your opinion. i find it rather sad and an example of how it can't work

HHelen

Laura No belt, no car?

It's not a case yet.

Jenna Let's hear them please, Helen.

Monica's and Jane's story. Right concept, wrong implementation.

Ines and do not add your own experience to discussion

In what sense?

Angelina i find it rather sad and an example of how it can't work

Right, smart people learn from others' mistakes.

Ines

HHelen In what sense?

If this is a keyholders thread and the contribution of keyholders is sentences of 3 words, I do not understand the complaints about the thread.

Angelina

HHelen Right, smart people learn from others' mistakes.

since the post was deleted/invisible for whatever reason (it only had to do with the topic Monica and Jane @Ines?) here is my answer again

It's actually quite simple. With Monica and Jane there is and was no trust in each other, learn that it doesn't work if there is no trust

Tjc

Milord I was not a member here when the forum members moved here but I did read the forum. I don't remember that that was the main focus of the information and it doesn't seem to me that the forum is trying to move in that direction.
It does seem to me, so this is only my opinion, that the forum would like to have information about practical issues around wearing chastity belts and issues related to being a keyholder. There seems to be a lot of posting from people who are neither and have no practical information to offer, only ideas about people's character and accusations about peoples bad intentions.
The tone of the postings seems to me to less friend and less collegial than it once was. There seemed to be more people looking for answers and offering advice than there is now. At one time, it seemed like a group of people that it would be interesting and enjoyable to sit down to dinner and a discussion with. I feel that some of those people are still here but it would be a small table.
I have met a lot of good people here. I think many of those are gone or are very quiet. I think that is sad. I have learned a lot here. I don't always agree with what I learn. I realize my life, my experience, and the way I choose to live are not the same as everyone here but all that I have learned and heard has been useful. But a lot of the contention and an accusations detract from that.
I think it would be nice if the pendulum swung back the other way.

Milord

Tjc there are a lot of good points here. Thanks for sharing

Jenna

Tjc Thank you, very well written.

Laura

Jenna Since you joined many people post less frequently, or stop all together

I disagree. We've always had people like him and it was not a problem

Ines

@Jenna and @Milord , absolute shame on you!

Why do you come here to have an angry discussion and poisoning the environment?
Do you think that someone comes here to read your reproaches? NO. NO. NO.
People come here to have pleasant time, and friendly tone is not an option here, is mandatory.
The red line is unwillingly usage and minors, the rest is welcome.
If you can not interact as adults, just ignore the other.
I will not tolerate another show as this. It was a fight of school yard.

Kaja

Why were my posts deleted? I was not more ofensive than Jena.

She talks about shame what girl bring to familly. I spoke about shame what Jena bring to her familly. Where is diferent?

Ines

Kaja

Please, stop.
Really this is unbearable, "and you more... ".
It seems a kids conversation, this is a keyholding thread not reproaches thread.

HHelen

Angelina With Monica and Jane there is and was no trust in each other, learn that it doesn't work if there is no trust

I can't conclude, that there was not trust between them at all. However I do agree, that Monica has chosen a wrong approach.

Jenna

HHelen I am sorry that the other posts were deleted. Essentially we are all on the same page here. When you asked your daughter to wear a belt, I am sure a level of trust was established first. It is a very personal and powerful statement that both the keyholder and wearer have to be aligned with before a belt is worn. I am sure with your daughter you told her the virtues of belt wearing, the values of doing so, etc. beforehand.

I did the same with @Susan and @Kate2. I told them the belt is a shield, not a sword. It is for protection not punishment. In the case of Monica and Jane, she would look at it as punishment and would not agree to wear it. No love or trust had been built so success was impossible. A sad case for sure.

Angelina

HHelen However I do agree, that Monica has chosen a wrong approach.

if you read through their situation, what would you say is the path Monica should have taken? So what should she have done differently in your opinion?

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