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  • just for fun and interest, should i wear a belt after after the wedding?

Joh Yeah family is always stressful like that. She’s always been a really good girl and there’s a lot between them and I. I think they’re concerned that I’d influence her in various negative ways. But I’m not giving up

    Angelina I plan to wear the belt and bra all the time, with exceptions only for special situations (air travel, beach, doctor's visits, etc.). Camryn decides whether such a situation exists and whether it is necessary not to wear the belt and bra.
    my wife may decide whether I should wear thighbands in certain situations, but she may not use them as a standard part of my equipment, but only in certain situations and only for limited periods of time.
    The first 6 months are a "trial period" and have a safe word. During this period, either of us can end the whole thing without giving a reason. If the safe word is mentioned, it's over immediately.
    the last point is probably the most difficult for me, but we decided to do it because we think that giving up control means actually doing it. We talked a lot about how many breaks or, better said, how many orgasms I should have. There were various time periods available for a minimum number.

    You seem to be very determined an d really want to give up control. Obviously you are still a bit afraid of it and want to take smaller steps and be careful to not enter something you cannot handle afterwards.
    If this is helpful for you, a safeword makes sense but as you have a partner that loves you I think she should always care about how you feel and realize when things get too much for you if this should ever happen.
    The same aplies to your rule of 1 orgasm per month as a minimum. However, I understand that you are approaching it slowly before you want to give up complete control. On the other hand going for what you consider the absolut minimum that is required for you is also brave and a big step.
    It is understandable because of your past that you need to develope a completely new way how you think and feel about wearing the belt again but you should never forget that you are absolutely lucky to have a wife that loves you and wants to keep you locked and you obviously want this, too. Therefore, have you considered the following:
    If you want to experience that she is in control, why do you want to wait until January? As you will be locked up most of the time for 6 months anyway, the orgasms you would have in December would probably not help to make it easier to endure it. If you would ask her tomorrow to start already then, this would give you the opportunity to already feel how it is when not everything works like the way you have planned or wished it and therefore could help you to find out if this is really what you want in the long term.

      Michael Safeword is totall base of every BDSM action. @Angelina do not trust anybody who says that you dont need it. Yes if anythings go right you dont have use it. But you never know when and why it will be necessary for you!

        @Angelina I See it the Same as @Kaja.
        Always have a solution to get out easily and quickly. This is for when it really goes against your interests. So in an absolute emergency. And I hope that's never the case.

        @Angelina
        With not needing it, I did not actually mean to abandon using safewords but you are in a relationship that has lasted some years already if i am correct. Therefore the bond between both of you should be strong enough that you should communicate and understand each other before the usage of a safeword becomes necessary.

        Kaja Safeword is totall base of every BDSM action.

        That is actually not true.

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          Michael That is actually not true.

          If a safe word is not agreed in a BDSM relationship, that is a red flag and should make you think. That is not a healthy relationship.

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            Joh The original intent of a safeword was for BDSM play where someone might say "no, no" or "stop" as part of their natural response to a spanking or other corporal punishment type event. The idea was to separate someone's natural response from them actually wanting to stop. Thus, the safeword. Even if I say "no, no, stop stop" I don't really want you to stop unless I say our agreed upon safeword, like "red".
            In the case of @Angelina needing to stop wearing their belt, no safeword is necessary. She should be able to explain to Camryn why she wants to stop and Camryn will decide. There is no need for a safeword. Both of them want the same thing, for @Angelina to be safe, happy, and successful in wearing the belt with all that entails.
            If it were causing some type of abrasion or pinching, she only needs to point that out so it can be dealt with. It is had for me to imagine, for @Angelina's writing that this would be ignore any way.
            Safewords are to avoid confusion in communication. They are not some magic spell that has to be a part of every BDSM action.
            All, just my opinion, but based on spending time arounf BDSM people for a long time.

              Tjc I agree with you about the origin. But that doesn't make it unnecessary, it makes it all the more clear when it is used in Angelina's relationship. Then there is no interpretation or discussion. Just the end and out.

              At the end of the day, all a safeword is is a clear and unambiguous way to communicate a serious need to stop a power exchange, whether to take a break or to reconsider the relationship.
              In that manner, a safeword is strongly required in the sense that all parties need an understanding that there may be a need to unlock the wearer immediately, previously agreed-upon rules be damned.
              On the other hand, chastity belts are not session play. As Tjc said, session play has the issue that the partners are usually with their heads in the heat of the moment, so codewords are needed to disambiguate between things that people blurt out with intense feeling, things that they might say as part of a roleplay scene, and genuine complaints about hitting the limits of consent or safety. Chastity belts are a much calmer everyday affair, so concerns can be talked about much more openly.

              In a way, you are both right, just describing different things. There needs to be a way to communicate well-being issues, but it need not take the form of a special codeword.

                youdontknowme I think you explained the distinction much better than I did. Safewords are not necessary for things like chastity wear because it connection between the wearer and the keyholder, in a good relationship, is ongoing and depends on continual communication, if it is to be effective.

                Joh I think this it the right way to start with. If you hand over the responsibility to Camryn than she will be the one who should arouse you and not a soulless toy.

                good wording, that's the crucial point 🙂

                Joh I completely agree with you and congratulate you on your comprehensive concession. It takes a lot to do it like this and it speaks for you that it will be like this. I am very excited to see how it will develop and what challenges you will face.

                yes, it's a challenge for both of us, also because camryn knows how much i hate the bands, but i agreed that giving up control also means having to endure unpleasantness, so i'm willing to wear them if camryn wants to and hope she's responsible enough to really only use them in exceptional situations

                Sasha But the general direction of it has been, would I be willing to allow her that control?

                i wouldn't make that dependent on my experiences. the question is do you love enough and do you trust enough, you can only answer these questions for yourself 🙂

                Sasha they’re concerned that I’d influence her in various negative ways

                does your family know about your past? I mean, you've almost become too reasonable by now 😃

                Michael If you want to experience that she is in control, why do you want to wait until January? As you will be locked up most of the time for 6 months anyway

                maybe even much longer, the 6 months are just a ‘trial period’ and that's the reason why it's not until january. i'm planning something long term here and i'm not taking this as a game, not as BDSM but as something new in normal life. it's an absolute turning point because i always thought after the wedding i'd never be in the belt again. we couldn't know that it could also give us pleasure, but it's a very important and hard decision because i'm giving up a lot and giving up responsibility, so we want enough time to prepare for it

                Since there have been a few posts here on the subject of safewords, I want to write something about it.
                I don't see any need for a safeword at the moment. We have a 6-month test period in which we will see whether this can be a lifestyle in terms of sexuality that we want to implement in the marriage in the long term. During this time, either of us can say that we want to stop and it will be over without discussion. After these 6 months, we would have several discussions about it and, after a possible waiting period, end it. I want to add another point. If I thought I needed a safeword, then the trust would not be great enough to even make this decision. I would never give up this freedom and responsibility if I needed a safeword.
                We currently have a rough plan, but there are still a few small points that are not 100% decided yet. I will give you an update with all the rules and conditions as soon as we have planned and discussed everything. I think I should rather enjoy my last month of "freedom" 😂

                  Angelina I want to add another point. If I thought I needed a safeword, then the trust would not be great enough to even make this decision. I would never give up this freedom and responsibility if I needed a safeword.

                  On the contrary. A safeword - whether as an actual code word or as the basic principle of communicating trouble - is woth nothing without the trust that the partner will listen to it. It is not about telling your partner you were wrong to trust them, but about telling them that something needs their urgent attention.

                  I think your system can work, but you need to keep a close eye on your desire for commitment. Ultimately, whether before or after the trial period, you probably will speak up to Camryn if something goes wrong that affects your ability to wear the belt. And obviously, you would want her to be a firm keyholder when you are just not in the mood to wear it, and a caring partner when the belt is causing you actual trouble. Ultimately, what all the talk about safewords boils down to is setting expectations of what your communication on that matter may be like, and making it easier (and hence less scary and less error-prone) for her to make that call in the process.

                  Chastity belts are a bit unlike BDSM scenes - as I outlined above, they are much less heat-of-the-moment situations where you need to communicate within seconds, much less roleplay or emotional outbursts where you might say no without meaning it. I am confident you will work something out that works for you, but please do not dismiss safety precautions as a sign of distrust.

                    Angelina wouldn't make that dependent on my experiences

                    I actually value your experience in this. Because if we grow and our relationship evolves to the point of marriage, as yours did I’d be very interested seeing how this power exchange influences your relationship. I’m very optimistic it will only deepen your connection with each other.

                    As for her family, I’ve been very open with my girlfriend and her family about where I’ve come from and where I’m going. They greatly appreciate the effort I’ve made and the ambitions I have. But they’re still concerned that the bad girl may not be entirely gone.
                    She’s a pretty good girl, always has been. Which I really admire in her. And she’s had some issues with the bad crowd in the past, which influenced her to get a chastity belt of her own for certain situations. So I’m not blaming them for being cautious about me. But I’m going to keep working on it, can only do our best.

                      Angelina I don't see any need for a safeword at the moment. We have a 6-month test period in which we will see whether this can be a lifestyle in terms of sexuality that we want to implement in the marriage in the long term.

                      I see the safe word as @youdontknowme. It is simple a code word for an urgent situation. No further need to explain it because you will have Camryn's full attention. You can explain it further if you want. No questioning by her as a key holder whether she keeps you locked up or not.
                      If no such situation arrive it is there and not used. All other situation you will figure out with her how to handle it in the right way.
                      A safe word will only work in a trusted relation ship. Otherwise your partner will ignore it. You didn't do it because you don't trust her, but because you trust her.

                        youdontknowme but please do not dismiss safety precautions as a sign of distrust.

                        i don't do that, we have safety precautions. firstly the 6 month probationary period in which any of us can quit at any time and without consequences, then after that there will certainly be opportunities to discuss any problems and also i can of course quit later, but there would be talks beforehand and maybe a waiting period until i get out. Don't get it wrong, safewords are right and important in BDSM sessions, but in everyday life a couple talks about all their problems and the belt is used as part of everyday life

                        Sasha I actually value your experience in this. Because if we grow and our relationship evolves to the point of marriage, as yours did I’d be very interested seeing how this power exchange influences your relationship. I’m very optimistic it will only deepen your connection with each other.

                        i actually find the idea quite romantic (otherwise i would never have come up with the idea myself), the question is which goal is being pursued? Should it be a continuation of your ‘human improvement’ only with your girlfriend (then probably your wife) as the keyholder or something completely new?

                        Joh No further need to explain it because you will have Camryn's full attention.

                        i think my reasoning was misunderstood. i don't need a safeword because if i urgently need to get out of the belt, i go to camryn and tell her that and why. she then has two options, agree with me and let me out or find an alternative solution that works for me without letting me out, as married couples do (should do) with all problems

                        i don't have an update this time, but we are working on the last details. this week was a bit stressful, but i think i will be able to present you the whole plan at the weekend 🙂

                          Angelina i think my reasoning was misunderstood. i don't need a safeword because if i urgently need to get out of the belt, i go to camryn and tell her that and why. she then has two options, agree with me and let me out or find an alternative solution that works for me without letting me out, as married couples do (should do) with all problems

                          That sounds like a reasonable safeword equivalent to me. When you say there is a problem, your keyholder's priority becomes solving that problem, and if necessary, the belt will be removed. Seems sensible to me.

                            Angelina Would be a little of both I think.
                            Always striving to better ourselves is a good thing. But it’s also a level of intimacy and reliance on a partner that I never imagined was possible. So your feedback on how it affects things in that regard is very valuable to me.

                              Angelina I think this is a great description of how a relationship like this should work. I think you will do well and hope it is fulfilling for both of you.

                              youdontknowme When you say there is a problem, your keyholder's priority becomes solving that problem, and if necessary, the belt will be removed

                              right, that is the main task of the key holder, the key holder must take care of the wearer's problems

                              Sasha

                              i'm sure i'll write a lot about it, it's a complete turning point for me because i never thought i'd wear the belt again. it's strange that i'm making this decision now, but it somehow feels right

                              Update:
                              i think many of you have been waiting for this, we have now clarified the most important points and have a plan on how it should work. of course things can still change, especially until the end of the month, but here are the most important rules now

                              1. Angelina always wears a chastity belt and a chastity bra. The normal state is that both devices are worn at all times. Exceptions for things like doctor's visits, swimming pools or other things must be approved by Camryn in advance. Camryn decides if an exception applies and the belt and bra must be removed.

                              2. Angelina has the right to get one orgasm per month. Camryn decides when she gets this orgasm. Camryn can give Angelina more orgasms, she can decide how many and when. Angelina has no right to demand more than one orgasm per month.

                              3. Angelina must continue to give Camryn orgasms during sex, even if she does not orgasm herself. In return, Camryn must ensure that Angelina remains sexually satisfied.

                              4. When showering, the belt and bra are removed and cleaned once a day. Angelina is not allowed to touch herself between her legs or on her breast when showering and is showered by Camryn while she has to hold her hands above her head.

                              5. Angelina allows Camryn to use thigh bands. Camryn decides when and how long they have to be worn. In return, Camryn promises to only use the thigh bands when they are really necessary. What is necessary is up to Camryn.

                              6. The first 6 months are a trial period. Both Angelina and Camryn can end the agreement at any time, without discussion and without consequences.

                              7. After the 6 months, there is only the option to quit after a mandatory discussion and a waiting period of 4 weeks. During these 4 weeks, you must discuss once a week whether you still want to quit. If you change your mind within these 4 weeks, the agreement remains, otherwise it is invalid and the roles of belt wearer and key holder are over.

                              8. Discussions about changes to the rules must always be possible and problems must be discussed immediately. The basis of these discussions, however, must be that Angelina does not use them to come out of chastity and Camryn does not use them to further restrict Angelina.

                              9. These rules are not a firm contract, but are intended to be guidelines only. The happiness, love and trust between and of Angelina and Camryn are above all the rules of this agreement. The agreement must not negatively affect any other aspect of the marriage.

                              As always, I'm curious to hear what you think about it, all ideas are welcome. I admit that I'm a little nervous 😃