MissBlossom This means that you have not a definite opinion. Sometime is right, sometime is wrong. If a friend of you ask suggestion about how to convince her daughter to be in a chastity belt, you will judge the situation and decide case by case if it's ok or not to help her. Am I right?
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Milord This means that you have not a definite opinion.
I have a definite opinion about many different cases. I don't have the same opinion about every case.
Sometime is right, sometime is wrong. If a friend of you ask suggestion about how to convince her daughter to be in a chastity belt, you will judge the situation and decide case by case if it's ok or not to help her. Am I right?
No. I don't see myself helping someone to talk their daughter into it.
However, if a friend told me that she OFFERED it to her adult daughter without coercion, and her daughter accepted, I could stay friends with her. I don't expect this to ever happen, though! lol
I cast my vote based on the most common case for the world as it exists today. I can see circumstances in which that could change, but as it stands I think combining the role of parent/guardian and keyholder just gives one person to mutch concentrated power over another for me to be OK with. Exceptional circumstances can exist and once the child is a financially independent adult a lot of my concerns are alleviated but I answered for the general case.
MissBlossom @Laura @Ines and @Renita have expressed that the only consequence of stopping would be disappointing their parents,
I thought @Laura had said that she would face ostracization from not just her parents, but her entire extended family. That seems pretty coercive to me. Given, that was a while ago and I think she said that it has changed more recently so things are probably better now.
Milord I will make it as simple as possible.
i myself am a friend of short and simple sentences and answers, because i am definitely not a poetic writer, but that is too simple and above all too generalising for me. i will keep it the way i have always done it here for the last 5 years and look at each case individually
Angelina Of course its ok, but for some of us it's plainly wrong. Not a case by case consideration, but wrong unless it is proven that it is beneficial to the beltee. For some of you its not, and i respect this. But for some of us its plainly wrong, as it will be closing son into the basement. There can be some situation in which its a good idea? Probably so, but generally speaking it's wrong.
We are free people and we are free to decude if we want to take the offer to be locked by them. Also we are free to decide if we want to make this offer.
It's not at me to judge people for having decided in favor of that question.
We all have the right to live the way we want, as long as it doesn't affact others. In this case it doesn't, so noone has the right to judge or fight it.
As long as it's all consentual I have no right to interfere.
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Milord So, this is a simple poll about the value of being belted by parents (=parents as KH)
It's not so simple without context.
Is it right/wrong in general?
With consent or not?
On whose initiative?
MissBlossom nd @Renita they would lose the option of having their parents as keyholders in the future.
Right, and @Milord would consider it as blackmail
Renita It's not so simple without context.
Is it right/wrong in general?
With consent or not?
On whose initiative?
I already explained the sense. I will eventually create another one more more detailed
MissBlossom nd @Renita they would lose the option of having their parents as keyholders in the future.
Right, and @Milord would consider it as blackmail
No. Being a keyholder is not an obbligation.
Created another one, more specific
Freedom is very relative when you are completely dependent from someone else, as children are from parents. In a relationship between peers of course there is nothing to discuss about. If it’s free like you say how it happens that there are children belted against their will?
Btw freedom is the possibility to refuse without any negative effect, not even emotional. For a lot of children, even disappointment from parents is a very strong leverage, that very often turns into emotional blackmail (“if you refuse to be belted I will not love you anymore”).
Milord The way the phrase up to discussion is asked, it's about the general belting. Being belted unvoluntarily is a special case - and not consentual like I implied.
So generally speaking: If you're old enough to vote and drink alcohol at the age of 16 here, then you're old enough to makw that desicison.
Max9 no, this is specific about parental belting, and no, this is about children that are young and dependent. If they aren't, meaning, if they are independent than the only possible scenario is that they are happy or they asked for it.
Also an adult child will most probably live away from parents, making the belt impractical, and or lives with someone else, that will not allow parental control.
I don’t generally approve of a parent pushing for or trying to convince their child to wear one.
I also don’t agree with there being conditions placed on it by the parent.
But, if a child wants it, and no conditions are placed on it other than what the person in chastity has specified, AND the parent is merely keeping the key safe. I’m ok with it.
That’s my take on the subject anyway
Sasha But, if a child wants it, and no conditions are placed on it other than what the person in chastity has specified, AND the parent is merely keeping the key safe. I’m ok with it.
I agree. This is a case where the child sees the benefit of wearing a belt and the parents are able to help. It is much better to trust the parents with a key than to trust a third party in almost any healthy family relationship.
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Rina Quite unlikely, but even if so, I think if they are underage, they should not be in a belt key held by someone else. Wearing chastity belt / device requires lots of commitment and may lead to lots of concerns (such as how others around them view them if their belts get noticed).
I also think it is unlikely that a child would ask a parent to lock themselves in a chastity device.
I think it would be quite embarrassing, due to concerns about the request being misunderstood by the parent, and the parent's concerns about the risk of damage and hygiene of the child in the area of the device's operation.
Yes, it cannot be ruled out that the child will gather courage and eventually ask the parent, but I think the parent should try to dissuade the child from this idea, especially a minor and dependent one, if only because of the risk of discovery, which could put the parent in a bad light.
The situation is different when the child is an adult, but in any case, when such a situation occurs, a joint, serious conversation should take place.
Rina This is something I have thought same. It should be either selflocked, or ideally, have someone who can be trusted without worries of abuse as a keyholder, under mutual consent between adults
I have the same opinion on this subject, but I think that first of all, you should try self-locking to make sure that you want to go down this path and train your willpower through longer and longer periods of locking and make sure that a given chastity device fits you, does not cause discomfort, damage, does not limit hygiene and is as discreet as possible. Only later can we think about giving the keys back to a trusted person and after establishing the rules of chastity. Of course, the rules should be established together, without any abuse on the part of the KH.
I did this and for almost a month I am voluntarily locked up 24/7 under the control of the KH.
Milord Btw freedom is the possibility to refuse without any negative effect, not even emotional. For a lot of children, even disappointment from parents is a very strong leverage, that very often turns into emotional blackmail (“if you refuse to be belted I will not love you anymore”).
I agree, because parents often require children to behave according to their personal beliefs, not taking into account that the child's beliefs may differ and the child may be afraid to express them for fear of disappointing the parent.
Milord I also have to say that for me if the child want it havin parents as keyholder is unhealthy but not abusive.
Such a situation is not violence, but in my opinion it is not a situation that parents should immediately agree to and first talk about all the aspects related to it.
Danmac I think the parent should try to dissuade the child from this idea, especially a minor and dependent one, if only because of the risk of discovery, which could put the parent in a bad light.
The situation is different when the child is an adult, but in any case, when such a situation occurs, a joint, serious conversation should take place.
Thank you a lot for that. I absolutely believe that the wrarer having to argue their case against a reluctant parent is the best way to ensure that any keyholding arrangement that may result is completely voluntary on the wearer's side, and especially underage wearers should encounter a lot of resistance due to the delicate nature of natural power imbalance.