Tobbe 🤷‍♂️sorry for having made you mad. I just couldn't imagine that a cadge for less that thousand euros is unusable. But alright, if you think I so. Just by the way? Is it just me, or do we actually have the same conversation in two categories?

      Tobbe
      Tobbe, I make you a question in another topic.

        Max9 I am not mad! I am more worried that some parent is reading what you write and think they can save money by buying these cheap belts. They are toys only and do not work more than for short moments.
        Should it be safe and protected, there are no shortcuts.

            I'm a student so I haven't made too much expersience with expensive stuff in thi cathegory. But from what I've read in the german communities is the this might not even be too bad. Like also for example the brand Neostell. Also sells cadges that are said to be fine for about €700. And they don't look too different from the copies... actually the same. If you have made the experiance that you can't find something proper for less then 1000€... alright, your experience. Might also be that german manufacturers are simply a bit cheaper in general. Because Neosteel is actually a premium brand.

              Tobbe I am more worried that some parent is reading what you write and think they can save money by buying these cheap belts

              You shouldn't worry. The experienced female wearers know what works and what doesn't. If parents rely on @Max9 's opinion, rather than ours, too bad for same, they just read what they want to read

                Max9 You can look at pictures and think it looks the same. But if you have seen one in reality you will immediately see the difference. When these adjustable came, I ordered some to see how it could be so cheap. I laughed when I opened the package. Never that I would look one on a woman!!!
                After that, I received requests from women who understood that it was not working. My advice is always to throw away the garbage and buy a real one.

                  Max9 I feel they both should have it about same difficult. Maybe holding each others key?

                  I think that's the best thing but somehow I can't get approval for that 😉

                  PS: this discussion here first of all misses the point and secondly you can't win this discussion. a good belt is custom made for your body measurements and costs 700 to 1000 euro

                    Sure, a good one is costum made. But I still believe that also one from 300 - 700€ can be used for some time. Maybe not the first, maybe the tenth... alright, simply different opinions from what I've tested once and read and what you've experienced. I don't want to doubt you're the pros in this. But to be honest. From what I've read you also get an acceptable one for cheaper you can work with. Sure, you always have issues and maybe need to fix some stuff. But alright.

                    It's impossible to buy a belt for less then 700€ tha will directly fit. That's for sure. You will always have problems with that because every body has a different shape. But you have a basis you can work with and you can make fit. If you can't come clear with the plastic - alright, fix it. If it's too high. Alright, shorten it and weld it together again. If you don't like the lock. Weld in another one. It doesn't matter because it's not expensive. And you can make it the way you feel it fits you best. That's what Iike about them. Sure, wen you but an expensive costum made one for more than 700€ you get a perfect fitting one. But this might also have to be adjusted by the time when you get taller or thicker.

                      Max9 If you can't come clear with the plastic - alright, fix it.

                      Have you glued silicone against stainless steel and got it to hold?

                      You say the belt should be fixed with tools that most people don't own and probably don't know how to use.

                        I actually thought of maybe sanding some of the silicone and gluing some soft leather on it. Leather is way more comfortable in direct touch with the skin then silicone - at least to me.
                        Well, tools are something you can borrow and you can learn to deal with. You just need to collect experience in working with them before you start working on a belt.

                          Or what you can also do is sweating a second layer or a bod on in under that a GPS tracker is placed. You can charge it with USB and then you can always see where your daughter / son currently is on your mobile fone in real time. And he/she got no chance of removing it

                            Max9 I actually thought of maybe sanding some of the silicone and gluing some soft leather on it.

                            First! Leather are not safe to use 24/7!
                            Second! I understand you have never glued silicon and stainless steel together.

                              Laura @HHelen has ordered a my-steel for her daughter already

                              That's right. Should receive it soon.

                                Max9 some soft leather on it.

                                It will smell badly. Even silicones need being cleaned. For that I need releases very often.

                                  Max9 Or what you can also do is sweating a second layer or a bod on in under that a GPS tracker is placed. You can charge it with USB and then you can always see where your daughter / son currently is on your mobile fone in real time. And he/she got no chance of removing it

                                  I think that would be an idea that the parents would like 🤣

                                  fortunately many parents also see the cb as a way to give the girls more freedom

                                      GPS-tracker Easier to just use a smartphone app and turn it into a gps tracker! Every girl and boy always has it with them. You can also set up a Geofence, to give notice of unauthorized movement.